[biofuel] Has anyone ever used sheeps wool for insulation?
By JASON STRAZIUSO, Associated Press Writer NOTTINGHAM, Pa. - If the black cattle at the Herr family farm seem eager at the trough, they have good reason. No mundane meal of corn and hay here. This feed is spiced with a snack food-lover's smorgasbord: potato chips, cheese curls and pretzels. Blessed bovine elsewhere in Pennsylvania get even sweeter treats: chocolate balls and Frosted Mini-Wheats. While cattle have been eating human food byproducts for years, more farmers this winter are filling the trough with snack food goodies, a money-saving solution to high corn prices caused by last summer's drought. Industry experts say that because feeding livestock discarded human food saves money and helps the environment, Bessie will be munching on potato chips more often in the future. "It's a win-win situation," said Harold Harpster, a professor of animal science at Penn State University. "It takes this food product out of the landfills and puts it into use feeding these livestock." In Hawaii some cattle get the leftovers from a pineapple processing plant. Kansas cattle feast on sunflower seed hulls. In Nebraska and California they eat sugar beet pulp. In Pennsylvania, cattle food is sometimes even more like people food. The Hershey's plant provides chocolate, a Kellogg's plant provides cereal and the Herr's snack food plant provides the chips. The discarded foods are fine nutritionally, farmers are quick to point out. Potatoes are the main ingredient for chips, wheat for pretzels. The reasons they're discarded vary: the chips are overcooked or the cereal too old. Often the cattle snacks are swept off the factory floor. Jim Herr bought his cattle farm 18 years ago primarily to have a place to discard snack food plant leftovers from his family's business. The thousands of gallons of water used to wash potatoes now hydrate the hay crop, for instance. The daily diet for his 650 cattle is heavily supplemented by the nearby snack food plant. The cattle eat 15 pounds of potato peelings, 15 pounds of corn, eight pounds of hay and four pounds of "steer party mix" ÷ chips, popcorn, pretzels and cheese curls. It's all mixed together in a blender the size of a large van. That mixture is nutritionally analyzed by a lab several times a year. Farm manager Dennis Byrne says he can tell how much his steer like it by how fast they get to the trough. "There's a lot of science to how the cattle are going to be fed, but there's also an art. You have to create a blend the cattle will go after," Byrne said. "They eat better than we do because we control their diet. They eat what they should eat." Most farm animals eat human food at some point in their lives, farmers say, although the practice is most common with cattle because of their tough digestive systems. Harpster and the farmers say the quality of the beef or milk isn't affected. Byrne notes the Herr cattle grade out in the top 8 percent of all beef as Certified Angus Beef. Livestock eating human food is most common in the east, where more food processing plants are located, Harpster said. He expects the practice to widen as food processors face increasing environmental pressures and farmers face increasing economic ones. Shelia Stannard, a spokeswoman for the American Angus Association, agrees. "I'd say it's going to continue the upward trend," Stannard said. "The cattle might as well eat something that we're not going to eat." Dwight Hess, a farmer near Marietta, feeds his cattle cereals from a local Kellogg's plant, and even chocolate and peanut butter ÷ sources of needed fats and protein. "It's senseless, putting a very high quality human grade food product into a landfill," he said. "We're producing a premium product and I'm proud of what we do." The Herr cattle get the steer party mix no matter what the corn prices are, but Byrne said during a year of high prices ÷ corn now costs about twice as much as in other years ÷ his farm enjoys a marketplace advantage. His competitors know it. Bryne said he's gotten a lot of calls this winter from other farmers wanting to buy excess party mix. They're calling at the right time ÷ his stocks are up from increased Super Bowl production. The party mix now sits in a pile 6 feet high and 30 feet deep in his barn. Stannard notes that farmers have always been good recyclers. She says using human food for livestock is just another way to conserve. "This year's been especially tough on cattle farmers, so anything they can do to find a cheaper feed source, they're going to do," she said. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Intro and question
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Best, > >Jack Young > >www.jacksauctions.com > >530.219.7900 (voice) > >530.795.5536 (fax) > > > Well, folks? Would we consider Jack's offer as SPAM? > > I have an idea there's a place for this, only I can't remember where > it is. Didn't somebody post some such thing (me maybe)? > > Keith I would say it wasn't spam, it was directed directly at this list. The TDI's are holding the value and driving 2000 miles for a deal would not be uncommon. I don't think he would interrupt too much. But maybe you would prefer one to go to the "maybe board"?? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Instant death
Federal Opposition environment spokesman Kelvin Thomson said yesterday the CSIRO study, which he was first alerted to by Environment Australia last week, should act as a warning to proponents of ethanol-blended fuels. http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,5830370 %255E3102,00.html Green Green lima bean, eh? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: industrial livestock husbandry,apology to Hakan
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am very sorry a typo, of course it should be Moose in American. I'm sorry for my reply. >I cannot generalize, You do, not just you, but I took offence to the resent post about antibiotics,adrenaline and us "forcing" one to buy our meat. Don't buy it!, but I overreacted, partly because its true and I can't do anything about it. But your "preaching to the choir". Some in the States are trying alternative growing methods, energy reduction measures and alternative fuels. And still get pasted as an greedy American. I should know better and I apologize, I just couldn't handle any US bashing at the time and I took it out on you. Sorry! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: industrial livestock husbandry
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They are right. By the way, our elk is called mouse on your continent. I originally thought this was another one of your attempts to belittle Americans again or to "paintbrush" us all as greedy idiots, but you didn't expound on it, so it must just be a spelling mis-step, eh? We all know mouse is what you put on your head to keep the mohawk haircut standing tall. Surely everyone in your neck of the woods has a multitude of "mouse" choices in the bathroom cabinet, no? :-) If you're from the United States , there is no confusion between elk and moose. Moose are the bigger ones with the big flat antlers that are loners and eat water plants. Elk are just a tad smaller and have antlers that look like tree branches and they hang around in herds grazing. No problem. But the animal we call moose (Alces alces) in the U.S. is called an elk in Europe . And scientists refer to our elk (Cervus elaphus) as Wapiti (a native American term) to avoid confusion. So, if you are from Europe be sure to point at the animal you know as an elk and call it a moose. The important thing is that elk and moose know who they are. And they are rarely confused about the issue. Oh yea, the Texas mouse: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/wild/mammals/dillo.htm viva Cherie Blair Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: WVO for SVO in BC
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone! > I've been annoying my poor, long-suffering wife with endless forays into the realm of running SVO in a diesel powered vehicle. The ones who truly do "pay the price". Bets your thankfull, eh? Ed said: PPO pure plant oil, your all set if in BC, but,,, Check the WallStreetJournal, corn .28, grease .16, about half what you state for brown, find a sheep plant!! Ed: what should one "burn" with oil to make it the most efficient? the oil industry "shut down" cause there is no ProfitMargin in the margin. figure out what a bushel of seed costs, compared to a bushel of feed and oil and tell all your friends, eh? soy .23, pork local: .25 Eat, drink and be merry, eh? All people that on earth do dwell, Sing to the Lord with cheerful voice, Him serve with mirth, His praise forth tell, Come ye before Him and rejoice. Know that the Lord is God indeed, Without our aid He did us make. We are His folk,He doth us feed And for His sheep, He doth us take. Oh, enter then His gatts with joy, Within His courts His praise proclaim. Let thankful songs your tongues employ, and bless and magnify His name. Because the Lord our God is good, His mercy is forever sure, His truth at all times firmly stood. And shall from age to age endure! Psalm 100 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Global Diesel Differences
Very informatative site, FULL of data, takes some time to read it all: http://www.energy.gov/world/index.html >Hello All, > >I'm looking for a concise description of the differences between European >(global if you know) and US diesel fuel (BTU, Sulphur content, refinement >processes, etc), exhaust systems (Catalytic converters, emission controls, >etc), as well as any other significant combustion and/or emissions >differences. I'm trying to put together a complete but digestible >description of global diesel usage as well as the reasons for it's notable >lack of presence in the US. > >Thanks, >Thom > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Sorry, found the link, wish I could edit
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[biofuel] Casual Observations
"We added more free fatty acids to the oil and then added the caustic," explains Wan. Though the method doesn't seem logical, it worked. The oil was lighter in color than before, and all its existing free fatty acids as well as those that Wan had supplied were essentially removed. Can't copy the specific link but go to: http://www.agribiz.com/INTEGRO/Bionews/ and select the link /From Oil Refinement to Baby Formula/ They didn't happen to say anything about ratios/amounts! But something to think about, eh? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
