Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Derick

How long does it normally take the cloudy biodiesel to clear, without 
using the filter?

Best

Keith


Hello Matt
I have used a under the sink type water filter for experimental 
purposes. it has a 1 fitting on both sides. I used a 2 micron 
carbon filter element for the micron size only. the string filter 
was 20 micron. I put freshly processed and washed cloudy bio in and 
got crystal clear fuel out. I have no idea what the carbon does to 
the mix pros or cons. maybe some one on the list has some insight.
 Good luck Derick.


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Thanks, Keith!

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Matt

Why bother? Not worth the trouble.

If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might
remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle
it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it.
No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts
show:

http://snipurl.com/1j20b
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

http://snipurl.com/1j20c
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

Best

Keith


 Hey all,
 
 I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55
 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then
 use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump.
 I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is
 biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns
 without needing pump pressure.
 
 I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only
 suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with
 B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump.
 
 Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Matt


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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-03 Thread Derick Giorchino
Well that has a long explanation. if you talk about summer here 90 deg +
just 2 to 3 days works well in the winter it can take much longer since it
has a tendency to get a little thick. Take a soda bottle sample and put it
in the window or worm place if it doesn't get better there is something
wrong with the process you did. I have had batches that pass all the quality
tests but I have a layer between the clear fuel and the water. I have tried
to dose this muck with vinegar or salt no good . Heated the crap out of it
still no good. I also tried to re treat the glop and it just doesn't want to
work. But that is only every now and again. Seems to depend on the source.
And as I said only a thin layer 1/4 1n a 120m liter batch.  

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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

Hello Derick

How long does it normally take the cloudy biodiesel to clear, without using
the filter?

Best

Keith


Hello Matt
I have used a under the sink type water filter for experimental 
purposes. it has a 1 fitting on both sides. I used a 2 micron carbon 
filter element for the micron size only. the string filter was 20 
micron. I put freshly processed and washed cloudy bio in and got 
crystal clear fuel out. I have no idea what the carbon does to the mix 
pros or cons. maybe some one on the list has some insight.
 Good luck Derick.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:46 PM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

Thanks, Keith!

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Matt

Why bother? Not worth the trouble.

If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might 
remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle it 
properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it.
No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts
show:

http://snipurl.com/1j20b
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

http://snipurl.com/1j20c
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

Best

Keith


 Hey all,
 
 I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 
 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use 
 the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump.
 I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is 
 biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without 
 needing pump pressure.
 
 I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest 
 it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I 
 was told that it needs the pressure of a pump.
 
 Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Matt


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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Matt

Why bother? Not worth the trouble.

If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might 
remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle 
it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. 
No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts 
show:

http://snipurl.com/1j20b
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

http://snipurl.com/1j20c
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

Best

Keith


Hey all,

I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 
gal. drum and the truck.  We are using gravity to fill jugs, then 
use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. 
I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is 
biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns 
without needing pump pressure. 

I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only 
suggest it for B20.   Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with 
B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. 

Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast?

Thanks,

Matt


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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-02 Thread Joe Street
Pushing a fluid with the viscosity BD can have through a 10 micron pore 
size filter just requires some pressure or a lot of time take your 
pick.  However there is nothing stopping you from rigging up a block and 
tackle to the top of the barn and hoisting the barrel up 40 or 50 feet 
to give you some head pressure.


Joe

Matt Wilson wrote:


Hey all,

I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 
gal. drum and the truck.  We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use 
the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump.  I am 
having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is 
biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without 
needing pump pressure. 

I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest 
it for B20.   Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I 
was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. 


Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast?

Thanks,

Matt


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Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-02 Thread Matt Wilson
Thanks, Keith!

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Matt

Why bother? Not worth the trouble.

If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might 
remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle 
it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. 
No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts 
show:

http://snipurl.com/1j20b
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

http://snipurl.com/1j20c
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

Best

Keith


Hey all,

I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 
gal. drum and the truck.  We are using gravity to fill jugs, then 
use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. 
I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is 
biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns 
without needing pump pressure. 

I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only 
suggest it for B20.   Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with 
B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. 

Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast?

Thanks,

Matt


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[Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?

2007-05-01 Thread Matt Wilson
Hey all,

I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum 
and the truck.  We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill 
the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump.  I am having a hard time finding 
an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to 
around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure.  

I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for 
B20.   Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it 
needs the pressure of a pump.  

Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? 

Thanks,

Matt


   
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