Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Hello Derick How long does it normally take the cloudy biodiesel to clear, without using the filter? Best Keith Hello Matt I have used a under the sink type water filter for experimental purposes. it has a 1 fitting on both sides. I used a 2 micron carbon filter element for the micron size only. the string filter was 20 micron. I put freshly processed and washed cloudy bio in and got crystal clear fuel out. I have no idea what the carbon does to the mix pros or cons. maybe some one on the list has some insight. Good luck Derick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:46 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter? Thanks, Keith! Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Matt Why bother? Not worth the trouble. If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts show: http://snipurl.com/1j20b Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... http://snipurl.com/1j20c Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... Best Keith Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Well that has a long explanation. if you talk about summer here 90 deg + just 2 to 3 days works well in the winter it can take much longer since it has a tendency to get a little thick. Take a soda bottle sample and put it in the window or worm place if it doesn't get better there is something wrong with the process you did. I have had batches that pass all the quality tests but I have a layer between the clear fuel and the water. I have tried to dose this muck with vinegar or salt no good . Heated the crap out of it still no good. I also tried to re treat the glop and it just doesn't want to work. But that is only every now and again. Seems to depend on the source. And as I said only a thin layer 1/4 1n a 120m liter batch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:19 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter? Hello Derick How long does it normally take the cloudy biodiesel to clear, without using the filter? Best Keith Hello Matt I have used a under the sink type water filter for experimental purposes. it has a 1 fitting on both sides. I used a 2 micron carbon filter element for the micron size only. the string filter was 20 micron. I put freshly processed and washed cloudy bio in and got crystal clear fuel out. I have no idea what the carbon does to the mix pros or cons. maybe some one on the list has some insight. Good luck Derick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:46 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter? Thanks, Keith! Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Matt Why bother? Not worth the trouble. If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts show: http://snipurl.com/1j20b Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... http://snipurl.com/1j20c Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... Best Keith Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Hello Matt Why bother? Not worth the trouble. If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts show: http://snipurl.com/1j20b Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... http://snipurl.com/1j20c Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... Best Keith Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Pushing a fluid with the viscosity BD can have through a 10 micron pore size filter just requires some pressure or a lot of time take your pick. However there is nothing stopping you from rigging up a block and tackle to the top of the barn and hoisting the barrel up 40 or 50 feet to give you some head pressure. Joe Matt Wilson wrote: Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Thanks, Keith! Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Matt Why bother? Not worth the trouble. If you make your biodiesel properly, everything that a filter might remove will be in the by-product layer, not the biodiesel. So settle it properly, separate it carefully, and use it. No need to filter it. No need to filter the oil first either, as these two previous posts show: http://snipurl.com/1j20b Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... http://snipurl.com/1j20c Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... Best Keith Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biodiesel compatible gravity-fed filter?
Hey all, I would like to filter our biodiesel between our drying/storage 55 gal. drum and the truck. We are using gravity to fill jugs, then use the jugs to fill the tank- we don't have a dedicated fuel pump. I am having a hard time finding an in-line 3/4 fuel filter that is biodiesel compatible but still filters to around 5-10 microns without needing pump pressure. I purchased a Goldenrod no. 495 gravity filter, but they only suggest it for B20. Bio-tek's High alcohol filter works with B100, but I was told that it needs the pressure of a pump. Any ideas, or am I chasing a mythical beast? Thanks, Matt - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/