Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-26 Thread Hakan Falk


Luc,

On the nail, especially when you think that Bush ordered plans for the Iraq
invasion before 9/11. The only thing that was missing was a good excuse
and Osama only became the perfect alibi.

The jury is still out on the success of the venture and my opinion is that it
is not going to be that easy as they envisioned in the first place. This 
despite

the fact that Iraq is a nation that consists to 80% of women, children an
old men. The result of the US inspired wars with Iran and the Kuweit debacle.

Despite dangling bait, as participating in oil exploration, in front of 
countries

like France and Germany, the "coalition of the willing" is small and with only
token from other countries than US and UK.

Regarding Osama, it has been no confirmed sightings of him since the
offensive in the Afghan mountains more than a year ago. Regardless of if
he is alive or not, he do fulfill the Emmanuel Goldstein role you described.
It does not take much of analyses to see that "Al Queda" is a very 
questionable
organization and that it do not perform as the singular force that US want 
us to

belive in.

Orwell's 1984 is here, even if it is a few years delayed.

Hakan

At 12:54 PM 9/24/2004, you wrote:

Osama is to the NWO what Emmanuel Goldstein of Orwell's 1984 was; nothing
more than a fictional focal point to which all terrors are attributed, a
common "enemy" used to instill perpetual fear in the minds of people who
otherwise might take the time to actually think and that would inevitably
result in the truth coming out and the gig would be up.
All so-called "Al Queda" cells and people associated with it have  turned
out to be intellingence black ops and those charged as being complicit have
ALL had their cases fall apart.
Who benefits from all this terror? Who gets what they want ? It certainly is
not the Arabs/Palestinians, so who actually did it? Who gets the $ ? Who
gets the bombs? Who gets to grab land that doesn't belong to them ? That is
who wins and who did it, IMHO :)

Luc
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> you are so pathetically ignorant, it borders on the suspicion of having
> matriculated from a public school.
> - Original Message -
> From: "bmolloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:48 PM
> Subject: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics
>
>
> Hi all,
>  A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our
> politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens
when
> the rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.
> Bob.
>
>
>
> When the Rabbits Get a Gun
>
>
> By William Rivers Pitt
> From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
> t r u t h o u t | Perspective
> Wednesday 15 September 2004
> ***
>
> This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang
> whole from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no
education,
> no experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then
he
> did, a vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is a
> simple, straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for the
> pure joy of feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers.
>
> This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As
> frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to imagine
> him as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence,
> absent of detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be
replicated.
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his
life
> is made clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things
> motivated him to do what he does.
>
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he is
> not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes
truly
> scary when the realization comes that there are millions of people who
have
> seen what he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly
> scary when the realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty
> years of American foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army
> behind him created by the same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes
> truly scary when the realization comes that he can be, and has been, and
> continues to be, replicated.
>
> Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how to
> kill effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy in
> Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a
> ruthless and

[Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-25 Thread bmolloy

Hi James,
In fact I did. I also graduated from a top university and then did
postgraduate work at another. Then switched careers to the world of
journalism and eventually publishing. But what has that got to do with the
price of eggs, or indeed with the opinions expressed by William Rivers Pitt?
Please enlighten me.
Bob.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics


> you are so pathetically ignorant, it borders on the suspicion of having
> matriculated from a public school.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "bmolloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:48 PM
> Subject: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics
>
>
> Hi all,
>  A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our
> politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens
when
> the rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.
> Bob.
>
>
>
> When the Rabbits Get a Gun
>
>
> By William Rivers Pitt
> From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
> t r u t h o u t | Perspective
> Wednesday 15 September 2004
> ***
>
> This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang
> whole from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no
education,
> no experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then
he
> did, a vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is a
> simple, straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for the
> pure joy of feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers.
>
> This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As
> frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to imagine
> him as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence,
> absent of detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be
replicated.
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his
life
> is made clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things
> motivated him to do what he does.
>
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he is
> not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes
truly
> scary when the realization comes that there are millions of people who
have
> seen what he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly
> scary when the realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty
> years of American foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army
> behind him created by the same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes
> truly scary when the realization comes that he can be, and has been, and
> continues to be, replicated.
>
> Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how to
> kill effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy in
> Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a
> ruthless and wealthy warrior against the Soviet Union. It was the desire
of
> the American government to deliver to the Soviets their own Vietnam, to
> arrange a hopeless military situation which would demoralize the Soviet
> military and bleed that nation dry.
>
> Osama bin Laden played the part of the Viet Cong, and he was good at it.
> With the help of the American government, he was able to create an army of
> true believers in Afghanistan. Our government believed that if one bin
Laden
> was good, a hundred would be better, and a thousand better again, in the
> fight against the Soviets. So strong was this group America helped to
create
> that it became known as 'The Base.' Translated into the local dialect,
'The
> Base' is known as al Qaeda.
>
> Osama bin Laden learned something else besides the art of killing while he
> was working as an ally of the United States. He learned that given enough
> time, enough money, enough violence, enough perseverance, and enough
fellow
> warriors, a superpower can be brought to its knees and erased from the
book
> of history.
>
> Bin Laden was at the center of one of the most important events of the
20th
> century: The fall of the Soviet Union. Political pundits like to credit
> Reagan and the senior Bush for the collapse of that regime, but out in
front
> of them, in the mountains of Afghanistan, was Osama bin Laden and al
Qaeda,
> the sharp end of our sword, who did their job very well. Today, the United
> States faces this group and its leader, armed with their well-learned and
> America-taught lessons: How to kill massively and how to annihilate a
> superpower.
>
> Osama bin L

RE: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-24 Thread Peggy

James,

The ability to think above and beyond both public and private
conditioning is a step toward maturity.  Current television (media)
conditioning surpasses any traditional schooling for cloning robots out
of social units.  Creative imagination has value.  Try reading James
Joyce Finnegan's Wake to see beyond the words.  It's not something
taught in public school.

Peggy
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you are so pathetically ignorant, it borders on the suspicion of having 
matriculated from a public school.
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From: "bmolloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics


Hi all,
 A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our

politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens
when 
the rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.
Bob.



When the Rabbits Get a Gun


By William Rivers Pitt
From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Wednesday 15 September 2004
***

This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang 
whole from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no
education, 
no experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then
he 
did, a vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is
a 
simple, straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for
the 
pure joy of feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers.

This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As 
frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to
imagine 
him as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence,

absent of detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be
replicated. 
Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his
life 
is made clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things 
motivated him to do what he does.

Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he
is 
not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes
truly 
scary when the realization comes that there are millions of people who
have 
seen what he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly

scary when the realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty

years of American foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army 
behind him created by the same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden
becomes 
truly scary when the realization comes that he can be, and has been, and

continues to be, replicated.

Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how
to 
kill effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy
in 
Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a 
ruthless and wealthy warrior against the Soviet Union. It was the desire
of 
the American government to deliver to the Soviets their own Vietnam, to 
arrange a hopeless military situation which would demoralize the Soviet 
military and bleed that nation dry.

Osama bin Laden played the part of the Viet Cong, and he was good at it.

With the help of the American government, he was able to create an army
of 
true believers in Afghanistan. Our government believed that if one bin
Laden 
was good, a hundred would be better, and a thousand better again, in the

fight against the Soviets. So strong was this group America helped to
create 
that it became known as 'The Base.' Translated into the local dialect,
'The 
Base' is known as al Qaeda.

Osama bin Laden learned something else besides the art of killing while
he 
was working as an ally of the United States. He learned that given
enough 
time, enough money, enough violence, enough perseverance, and enough
fellow 
warriors, a superpower can be brought to its knees and erased from the
book 
of history.

Bin Laden was at the center of one of the most important events of the
20th 
century: The fall of the Soviet Union. Political pundits like to credit 
Reagan and the senior Bush for the collapse of that regime, but out in
front 
of them, in the mountains of Afghanistan, was Osama bin Laden and al
Qaeda, 
the sharp end of our sword, who did their job very well. Today, the
United 
States faces this group and its leader, armed with their well-learned
and 
America-taught lessons: How to kill massively and how to annihilate a 
superpower.

Osama bin Laden learned a few other things before he became the monster 
under our collective bed. When Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein began to make
his 
move against Kuwait, bin Laden was outraged. Hussein was a despised name
on 
the lips of bin Laden and his followers

Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-24 Thread Legal Eagle

Osama is to the NWO what Emmanuel Goldstein of Orwell's 1984 was; nothing
more than a fictional focal point to which all terrors are attributed, a
common "enemy" used to instill perpetual fear in the minds of people who
otherwise might take the time to actually think and that would inevitably
result in the truth coming out and the gig would be up.
All so-called "Al Queda" cells and people associated with it have  turned
out to be intellingence black ops and those charged as being complicit have
ALL had their cases fall apart.
Who benefits from all this terror? Who gets what they want ? It certainly is
not the Arabs/Palestinians, so who actually did it? Who gets the $ ? Who
gets the bombs? Who gets to grab land that doesn't belong to them ? That is
who wins and who did it, IMHO :)

Luc
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics


> you are so pathetically ignorant, it borders on the suspicion of having
> matriculated from a public school.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "bmolloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:48 PM
> Subject: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics
>
>
> Hi all,
>  A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our
> politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens
when
> the rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.
> Bob.
>
>
>
> When the Rabbits Get a Gun
>
>
> By William Rivers Pitt
> From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
> t r u t h o u t | Perspective
> Wednesday 15 September 2004
> ***
>
> This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang
> whole from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no
education,
> no experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then
he
> did, a vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is a
> simple, straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for the
> pure joy of feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers.
>
> This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As
> frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to imagine
> him as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence,
> absent of detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be
replicated.
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his
life
> is made clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things
> motivated him to do what he does.
>
> Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he is
> not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes
truly
> scary when the realization comes that there are millions of people who
have
> seen what he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly
> scary when the realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty
> years of American foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army
> behind him created by the same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes
> truly scary when the realization comes that he can be, and has been, and
> continues to be, replicated.
>
> Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how to
> kill effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy in
> Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a
> ruthless and wealthy warrior against the Soviet Union. It was the desire
of
> the American government to deliver to the Soviets their own Vietnam, to
> arrange a hopeless military situation which would demoralize the Soviet
> military and bleed that nation dry.
>
> Osama bin Laden played the part of the Viet Cong, and he was good at it.
> With the help of the American government, he was able to create an army of
> true believers in Afghanistan. Our government believed that if one bin
Laden
> was good, a hundred would be better, and a thousand better again, in the
> fight against the Soviets. So strong was this group America helped to
create
> that it became known as 'The Base.' Translated into the local dialect,
'The
> Base' is known as al Qaeda.
>
> Osama bin Laden learned something else besides the art of killing while he
> was working as an ally of the United States. He learned that given enough
> time, enough money, enough violence, enough perseverance, and enough
fellow
> warriors, a superpower can be brought to its knees and erased from the
book
> of history.
>
> Bin Laden was at the center of one of the most important events of the
20th
> centur

Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-22 Thread Keith Addison




bmolloy wrote:


He didn't. He posted an article by William Rivers Pitt, and Pitt 
wrote this. Please be more careful in attributing quotes.



Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that
he is not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He
becomes truly scary when the realization comes that there are
millions of people who have seen what he has seen, who feel what he
feels, and why. He becomes truly scary when the realization comes
that he is a creation of the last fifty years of American foreign and
economic policy, and that he has an army behind him created by the
same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the
realization comes that he can be, and has been, and continues to be,
replicated.


And this, as articulated by Barnett, is exactly why we need to 
shrink the non-integrated Gap by connecting them to the world 
economy via globalization.


Although the Osama Bin Laden's of this world will still exist post 
economic integration, in my view they cease to be super-empowered 
actors and become the crazy tinfoil hat wearing guy on corner once 
the rank and file populace of those countries have at least the hope 
and potential for economic prosperity and stability. In my view, the 
average 19 year old does not become a radical extremist when he or 
she has a meaningful future ahead of him or herself. The remaining 
sociopaths and ideologs then become a law enforcement/mental health 
problem, not a military one.


Ho-hum John. Ho-hum Barnett too.

In probably the most comprehensive study to date, "Scorecard on 
Globalization 1980-2000", Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker and other 
researchers at the Center for Economic and Policy Research found that 
economic growth and rates of improvement in life expectancy, child 
mortality, education levels and literacy all declined in the era of 
global corporatization (1980-2000) compared to 1960-1980.


Millions of people who could have escaped a lifetime of poverty under 
the former rules of market economics under democratic limits were 
unable to do so under the new rules of global corporate governance.


"For economic growth and almost all of the other indicators, the last 
20 years have shown a very clear decline in progress as compared with 
the previous two decades... The poorest group went from a per capita 
GDP growth rate of 1.9 percent annually in 1960-80, to a *decline* of 
0.5 percent per year (1980-2000). By almost every measure, the 
progress achieved in the two decades of globalization has been 
considerably less than the progress in the period from 1960 to 1980", 
especially in the low and middle-income countries.

http://www.cepr.net/globalization/scorecard_on_globalization.htm
The Scorecard on Globalization 1980-2000 - Twenty Years of Diminished Progress
By Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker, Egor Kraev and Judy Chen  July 11, 2001

Economic growth is projected as the road to overcome global 
poverty. With economic growth of $100 the rich 20% of the world 
population pocket $83 and the poorest 20% get $1.40. Global economic 
growth is therefore a highly inefficient way to help the global poor.


Actually most of the poorest 20% don't gain anything, they lose, or 
lose heavily, or just starve to death, along with their children. 
That's why they breed more - more births raises the chances that some 
might survive.


http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8835
The Way Ahead
Nobel Prize Winner Joseph Stiglitz holds joint professorships at 
Columbia University's Economics Department, the School of 
International and Public Affairs, and the Business School. His 
forthcoming book, The Roaring Nineties: A New History of the World's 
Most Prosperous Decade, will be published by W.W. Norton & Co. in 
October.
The following excerpt is from Globalization and Its Discontents, by 
Joseph E. Stiglitz, published by W.W. Norton & Co. in 2002.


"Today, globalization is being challenged around the world. There is 
discontent with globalization, and rightfully so. Globalization can 
be a force for good: the globalization of ideas about democracy and 
of civil society have changed the way people think, while global 
political movements have led to debt relief and the treaty on land 
mines.


"Globalization has helped hundreds of millions of people attain 
higher standards of living, beyond what they, or most economists, 
thought imaginable but a short while ago. The globalization of the 
economy has benefited countries that took advantage of it by seeking 
new markets for their exports and by welcoming foreign investment. 
Even so, the countries that have benefited the most have been those 
that took charge of their own destiny and recognized the role 
government can play in development rather than relying on the notion 
of a self-regulated market that would fix its own problems.


"But for millions of people globalization has not worked. Many have 
actually been made worse off, as they have seen their jobs destroye

Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-21 Thread John Hayes




Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that
he is not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He
becomes truly scary when the realization comes that there are
millions of people who have seen what he has seen, who feel what he
feels, and why. He becomes truly scary when the realization comes
that he is a creation of the last fifty years of American foreign and
economic policy, and that he has an army behind him created by the
same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the
realization comes that he can be, and has been, and continues to be,
replicated.


And this, as articulated by Barnett, is exactly why we need to shrink 
the non-integrated Gap by connecting them to the world economy via 
globalization.


Although the Osama Bin Laden's of this world will still exist post 
economic integration, in my view they cease to be super-empowered actors 
and become the crazy tinfoil hat wearing guy on corner once the rank and 
file populace of those countries have at least the hope and potential 
for economic prosperity and stability. In my view, the average 19 year 
old does not become a radical extremist when he or she has a meaningful 
future ahead of him or herself. The remaining sociopaths and ideologs 
then become a law enforcement/mental health problem, not a military one.

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Re: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-21 Thread jamesbil


matriculated from a public school.
- Original Message - 
From: "bmolloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics


Hi all,
A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our 
politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens when 
the rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.

Bob.



When the Rabbits Get a Gun


By William Rivers Pitt
From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Wednesday 15 September 2004
***

This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang 
whole from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no education, 
no experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then he 
did, a vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is a 
simple, straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for the 
pure joy of feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers.


This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As 
frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to imagine 
him as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence, 
absent of detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be replicated. 
Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his life 
is made clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things 
motivated him to do what he does.


Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he is 
not unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes truly 
scary when the realization comes that there are millions of people who have 
seen what he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly 
scary when the realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty 
years of American foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army 
behind him created by the same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes 
truly scary when the realization comes that he can be, and has been, and 
continues to be, replicated.


Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how to 
kill effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy in 
Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a 
ruthless and wealthy warrior against the Soviet Union. It was the desire of 
the American government to deliver to the Soviets their own Vietnam, to 
arrange a hopeless military situation which would demoralize the Soviet 
military and bleed that nation dry.


Osama bin Laden played the part of the Viet Cong, and he was good at it. 
With the help of the American government, he was able to create an army of 
true believers in Afghanistan. Our government believed that if one bin Laden 
was good, a hundred would be better, and a thousand better again, in the 
fight against the Soviets. So strong was this group America helped to create 
that it became known as 'The Base.' Translated into the local dialect, 'The 
Base' is known as al Qaeda.


Osama bin Laden learned something else besides the art of killing while he 
was working as an ally of the United States. He learned that given enough 
time, enough money, enough violence, enough perseverance, and enough fellow 
warriors, a superpower can be brought to its knees and erased from the book 
of history.


Bin Laden was at the center of one of the most important events of the 20th 
century: The fall of the Soviet Union. Political pundits like to credit 
Reagan and the senior Bush for the collapse of that regime, but out in front 
of them, in the mountains of Afghanistan, was Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, 
the sharp end of our sword, who did their job very well. Today, the United 
States faces this group and its leader, armed with their well-learned and 
America-taught lessons: How to kill massively and how to annihilate a 
superpower.


Osama bin Laden learned a few other things before he became the monster 
under our collective bed. When Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein began to make his 
move against Kuwait, bin Laden was outraged. Hussein was a despised name on 
the lips of bin Laden and his followers; here was an unbelieving heretic who 
spoke the words of Allah, a self-styled Socialist who pretended piety, a 
ruthless dictator who killed every Islamic fundamentalist he could get his 
hands on.


Osama bin Laden went to King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, home of the holiest sites 
of Islam. The royal family was not to be found anywhere on bin Laden's list 
of friends at the time. A shrewd observer of local politics, bin Laden knew 
that the Saudi government enjoyed having the Palestinians living in squalor, 
bereft of homeland and hope, because it distracted the fundamentalists 
within Saudi Arabia from focusing on the inequities within their own 
country. With the cr

[Biofuel] Fossil fuels fuel the politics

2004-09-20 Thread bmolloy

Hi all,
 A new thread for consideration: fossil fuel use is fuelling our 
politics. Up until now we've been eating the rabbits. But what happens when the 
rabbits get a gun? Pitt takes a look at the question.
Bob.



When the Rabbits Get a Gun 


By William Rivers Pitt  
From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091504A.shtml
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Wednesday 15 September 2004 
***

This is the comforting fiction: Osama bin Laden is a monster who sprang whole 
from the fetid mire. He had no childhood, no influences, no education, no 
experiences to form his view of the world. He did not exist, and then he did, a 
vessel into which the universe poured the essence of evil. It is a simple, 
straightforward story of a man who hates freedom and kills for the pure joy of 
feeling innocent blood drip from his fingers. 

This is the fairy tale by which children are put to bed at night. As 
frightening and terrifying as bin Laden may be, it is a comfort to imagine him 
as having been chiseled from the dust. The fiction of his existence, absent of 
detail, makes him unique, a singular entity not to be replicated. Osama bin 
Laden becomes truly scary only when the actual context of his life is made 
clear, where he is from, what he has seen, and why those things motivated him 
to do what he does. 

Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the realization comes that he is not 
unique, not singular, not an invention of the universe. He becomes truly scary 
when the realization comes that there are millions of people who have seen what 
he has seen, who feel what he feels, and why. He becomes truly scary when the 
realization comes that he is a creation of the last fifty years of American 
foreign and economic policy, and that he has an army behind him created by the 
same influences. Simply, Osama bin Laden becomes truly scary when the 
realization comes that he can be, and has been, and continues to be, 
replicated. 

Osama bin Laden, after being educated at Oxford University, learned how to kill 
effectively while working as an agent of American Cold War policy in 
Afghanistan. He was a helpful American ally throughout the 1980s as a ruthless 
and wealthy warrior against the Soviet Union. It was the desire of the American 
government to deliver to the Soviets their own Vietnam, to arrange a hopeless 
military situation which would demoralize the Soviet military and bleed that 
nation dry. 

Osama bin Laden played the part of the Viet Cong, and he was good at it. With 
the help of the American government, he was able to create an army of true 
believers in Afghanistan. Our government believed that if one bin Laden was 
good, a hundred would be better, and a thousand better again, in the fight 
against the Soviets. So strong was this group America helped to create that it 
became known as 'The Base.' Translated into the local dialect, 'The Base' is 
known as al Qaeda. 

Osama bin Laden learned something else besides the art of killing while he was 
working as an ally of the United States. He learned that given enough time, 
enough money, enough violence, enough perseverance, and enough fellow warriors, 
a superpower can be brought to its knees and erased from the book of history. 

Bin Laden was at the center of one of the most important events of the 20th 
century: The fall of the Soviet Union. Political pundits like to credit Reagan 
and the senior Bush for the collapse of that regime, but out in front of them, 
in the mountains of Afghanistan, was Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, the sharp 
end of our sword, who did their job very well. Today, the United States faces 
this group and its leader, armed with their well-learned and America-taught 
lessons: How to kill massively and how to annihilate a superpower. 

Osama bin Laden learned a few other things before he became the monster under 
our collective bed. When Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein began to make his move 
against Kuwait, bin Laden was outraged. Hussein was a despised name on the lips 
of bin Laden and his followers; here was an unbelieving heretic who spoke the 
words of Allah, a self-styled Socialist who pretended piety, a ruthless 
dictator who killed every Islamic fundamentalist he could get his hands on. 

Osama bin Laden went to King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, home of the holiest sites of 
Islam. The royal family was not to be found anywhere on bin Laden's list of 
friends at the time. A shrewd observer of local politics, bin Laden knew that 
the Saudi government enjoyed having the Palestinians living in squalor, bereft 
of homeland and hope, because it distracted the fundamentalists within Saudi 
Arabia from focusing on the inequities within their own country. With the 
crooking of a single oil-rich finger, the Saudi royals could solve the 
Palestinian problem. Their refusal to do so fed bin Laden's rage, for in his 
mind, they were aiding and abetting what he saw as an intolerable Israeli 
apartheid. 

Bin Laden asked Fahd to help him resu