Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
Maybe just a research vehicle heading to some testing place? Alan Petrillo wrote: robert and benita wrote: Alan Petrillo wrote: I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its own? . . . because it couldn't find fuel? : - ) All of the above? AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
John Mullan wrote: Maybe just a research vehicle heading to some testing place? That possibility does exist. There are several vehicle manufacturers that test their vehicles in Florida, so maybe Ford is one of them. AP Alan Petrillo wrote: robert and benita wrote: Alan Petrillo wrote: I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its own? . . . because it couldn't find fuel? : - ) All of the above? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
I am not that excited about hydrogen fuel cells. Yes it will be better for the environment, but it is a super inefficient way to fuel a car. Not to mention it is the same type of setup; you buy your overpriced car, you now only have one choice on where to get fuel, you pay for expensive maintenance on an inefficient engine with a zillion moving parts. The better answer to this problem that wouldn't involve an IV like hook up to fuel companies is ELECTRICITY. It can be produced tons of different ways, the car has 7 or less moving parts. No maintenance and no IV to the fuel companies. James Alan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Mullan wrote: Maybe just a research vehicle heading to some testing place? That possibility does exist. There are several vehicle manufacturers that test their vehicles in Florida, so maybe Ford is one of them. AP Alan Petrillo wrote: robert and benita wrote: Alan Petrillo wrote: I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its own? . . . because it couldn't find fuel? : - ) All of the above? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080201/ead136c5/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
James McCain Jr wrote: I am not that excited about hydrogen fuel cells. Yes it will be better for the environment, but it is a super inefficient way to fuel a car. Not to mention it is the same type of setup; you buy your overpriced car, you now only have one choice on where to get fuel, you pay for expensive maintenance on an inefficient engine with a zillion moving parts. True. There isn't going to be a way to get the cost down until someone finds a way to build fuel cells without platinum. With platinum at $1760/oz. it's no wonder that fuel cell vehicles are still in the $100k+ range for a cheap one. The better answer to this problem that wouldn't involve an IV like hook up to fuel companies is ELECTRICITY. It can be produced tons of different ways, the car has 7 or less moving parts. No maintenance and no IV to the fuel companies. Maybe. It all depends on how the electricity is generated. If you charge off of the grid then since most of the electricity in the US is made by burning coal then you are effectively driving a coal powered car. Even so, in terms of dollars per mile BEV's are hard to beat. AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. :-D AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
Alan Petrillo wrote: I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its own? . . . because it couldn't find fuel? : - ) robert luis rabello (former hydrogen enthusiast) The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
robert and benita wrote: Alan Petrillo wrote: I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this afternoon. It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge going toward Tampa, Florida. On the back of a flatbed truck. . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its own? . . . because it couldn't find fuel? : - ) All of the above? AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
