[Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Rich3800

I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola  oil. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Marylynn Schmidt


use it as biofuel effective, I would personally welcome it ..

.. because I won't eat it.

At least all those dollars spent and treaties signed (not to mention 
anything else) wouldn't go to waste.


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I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola  oil.








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Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Phillip Wolfe

Dear Rich, I will send you and article or two.  You
may want to join the Society of Tribologists and
Lubricant Engineers (STLE) as I am a member.

STLE is the study of lubricants and grease. The fields
of biotribology and biolubricants are under great
study. Generally speaking, many of the majors (majors
means major companies) now have departments and
product lines devoted to vegetable based bio-oils and
bio-lubricants.  

The process essentially follows the process to achieve
biodiesel in which the "ingedients" undergoe a
transesterification process.   Companies such as
Cargill have whole new lines of research devoted to
this area.

In the United States, the state of Iowa has opened a
new educational initiative devoted to soy-based and
vegetable based lubricants and oils.

The majors approach in two ways 1) the truly vegatable
based bio-oils and bio-lubricants; 2) the synthetic
vegetable based "bio" oils and "bio" lubricants.  The
synthetic process involves a few more chemical changes
and thus cannot really be called "green bio" by the
purists.  But they are used in forest and water based
sensitive enviroments and are rather benign as are the
true biolubes and bio-oils. 

It is a great topic.

By the way, there is also research in the area of
human biolubricants.  Why? Because people with
arthritic joints have a general lack of natural
synovial fluid in their joints.  The causes are not
yet well known but replacement synovial fluids are
being looked at...but nothing found yet. So
biotribologies are seeking safe alternatives and will
take years of research.

Lubricants themselves are a  hidden gem. Think how the
world would be without a lubricating substance!  We
would not be able to walk, talk, kiss, smell, turn our
heads, jump, drive, fly, and even type on a keyboard
without the appropriate lubricant to ameliorate the
friction of two rubbing surfaces. And that is the
study of tribology.

Good question.

Phillip Wolfe
Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers
www.stle.org



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RE: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Keith Addison



Um, sorry, not so. Canola is a low-erucic acid variety of rape, 
developed in Canada by conventional breeding methods. There's been 
much previous discussion about canola, its character and origins, 
please see the list archives. There are GM varieties of both rape and 
canola, which I agree should probably be biodieseled as long as it's 
being grown (hopefully not long), and ordinary rape and canola both 
tend to be industrialised monocrops with high fossil-fuel dependence, 
but the far more common non-GM varieties of both rape and canola can 
be and are grown sustainably too. Nice oil for motors.


Best wishes

Keith


if there is a way to use it as biofuel effective, I would personally 
welcome it ..


.. because I won't eat it.

At least all those dollars spent and treaties signed (not to mention 
anything else) wouldn't go to waste.


Mary Lynn
Mary Lynn Schmidt
ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained 
Minister .
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . 
Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel

The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
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Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Keith Addison



I'm a bit of a tribalist myself. (Sorry!) I didn't know that word, thanks.

A very informative post from Frantz on bio oils seems to have gone 
largely unnoticed:


http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041213/003780.html
[Biofuel] Looking for bio oils and lubricants

Best wishes

Keith



Dear Rich, I will send you and article or two.  You
may want to join the Society of Tribologists and
Lubricant Engineers (STLE) as I am a member.

STLE is the study of lubricants and grease. The fields
of biotribology and biolubricants are under great
study. Generally speaking, many of the majors (majors
means major companies) now have departments and
product lines devoted to vegetable based bio-oils and
bio-lubricants.

The process essentially follows the process to achieve
biodiesel in which the "ingedients" undergoe a
transesterification process.   Companies such as
Cargill have whole new lines of research devoted to
this area.

In the United States, the state of Iowa has opened a
new educational initiative devoted to soy-based and
vegetable based lubricants and oils.

The majors approach in two ways 1) the truly vegatable
based bio-oils and bio-lubricants; 2) the synthetic
vegetable based "bio" oils and "bio" lubricants.  The
synthetic process involves a few more chemical changes
and thus cannot really be called "green bio" by the
purists.  But they are used in forest and water based
sensitive enviroments and are rather benign as are the
true biolubes and bio-oils.

It is a great topic.

By the way, there is also research in the area of
human biolubricants.  Why? Because people with
arthritic joints have a general lack of natural
synovial fluid in their joints.  The causes are not
yet well known but replacement synovial fluids are
being looked at...but nothing found yet. So
biotribologies are seeking safe alternatives and will
take years of research.

Lubricants themselves are a  hidden gem. Think how the
world would be without a lubricating substance!  We
would not be able to walk, talk, kiss, smell, turn our
heads, jump, drive, fly, and even type on a keyboard
without the appropriate lubricant to ameliorate the
friction of two rubbing surfaces. And that is the
study of tribology.

Good question.

Phillip Wolfe
Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers
www.stle.org



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Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Kristine Flohrs



I would recommend starting here:

http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html

and prepare to do some reading.

All the best,

AntiFossil
Mike Krafka
Minnesota USA

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I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola  oil.








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Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil

2004-12-31 Thread Anti-Fossil

Hello again Rich,

Having just RE-read your actual question, (it would have helped had I
actually done this in the first place!) it is painfully obvious that my
previous link is going to be of no use to you.  Good thing we have
knowledgeable folks around here who do silly little thing's like READ THE
QUESTIONS the first time, unlike myself, huh?  Anyway, sorry for any
confusion I may have caused.  I have some egg to remove from my face now.
LOL

AntiFossil
Mike Krafka
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