[Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola oil. Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
use it as biofuel effective, I would personally welcome it .. .. because I won't eat it. At least all those dollars spent and treaties signed (not to mention anything else) wouldn't go to waste. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:52:49 EST I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola oil. Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
Dear Rich, I will send you and article or two. You may want to join the Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers (STLE) as I am a member. STLE is the study of lubricants and grease. The fields of biotribology and biolubricants are under great study. Generally speaking, many of the majors (majors means major companies) now have departments and product lines devoted to vegetable based bio-oils and bio-lubricants. The process essentially follows the process to achieve biodiesel in which the "ingedients" undergoe a transesterification process. Companies such as Cargill have whole new lines of research devoted to this area. In the United States, the state of Iowa has opened a new educational initiative devoted to soy-based and vegetable based lubricants and oils. The majors approach in two ways 1) the truly vegatable based bio-oils and bio-lubricants; 2) the synthetic vegetable based "bio" oils and "bio" lubricants. The synthetic process involves a few more chemical changes and thus cannot really be called "green bio" by the purists. But they are used in forest and water based sensitive enviroments and are rather benign as are the true biolubes and bio-oils. It is a great topic. By the way, there is also research in the area of human biolubricants. Why? Because people with arthritic joints have a general lack of natural synovial fluid in their joints. The causes are not yet well known but replacement synovial fluids are being looked at...but nothing found yet. So biotribologies are seeking safe alternatives and will take years of research. Lubricants themselves are a hidden gem. Think how the world would be without a lubricating substance! We would not be able to walk, talk, kiss, smell, turn our heads, jump, drive, fly, and even type on a keyboard without the appropriate lubricant to ameliorate the friction of two rubbing surfaces. And that is the study of tribology. Good question. Phillip Wolfe Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers www.stle.org --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out > of canola oil. > > > > > > > > > Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
Um, sorry, not so. Canola is a low-erucic acid variety of rape, developed in Canada by conventional breeding methods. There's been much previous discussion about canola, its character and origins, please see the list archives. There are GM varieties of both rape and canola, which I agree should probably be biodieseled as long as it's being grown (hopefully not long), and ordinary rape and canola both tend to be industrialised monocrops with high fossil-fuel dependence, but the far more common non-GM varieties of both rape and canola can be and are grown sustainably too. Nice oil for motors. Best wishes Keith if there is a way to use it as biofuel effective, I would personally welcome it .. .. because I won't eat it. At least all those dollars spent and treaties signed (not to mention anything else) wouldn't go to waste. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:52:49 EST I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola oil. Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
I'm a bit of a tribalist myself. (Sorry!) I didn't know that word, thanks. A very informative post from Frantz on bio oils seems to have gone largely unnoticed: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041213/003780.html [Biofuel] Looking for bio oils and lubricants Best wishes Keith Dear Rich, I will send you and article or two. You may want to join the Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers (STLE) as I am a member. STLE is the study of lubricants and grease. The fields of biotribology and biolubricants are under great study. Generally speaking, many of the majors (majors means major companies) now have departments and product lines devoted to vegetable based bio-oils and bio-lubricants. The process essentially follows the process to achieve biodiesel in which the "ingedients" undergoe a transesterification process. Companies such as Cargill have whole new lines of research devoted to this area. In the United States, the state of Iowa has opened a new educational initiative devoted to soy-based and vegetable based lubricants and oils. The majors approach in two ways 1) the truly vegatable based bio-oils and bio-lubricants; 2) the synthetic vegetable based "bio" oils and "bio" lubricants. The synthetic process involves a few more chemical changes and thus cannot really be called "green bio" by the purists. But they are used in forest and water based sensitive enviroments and are rather benign as are the true biolubes and bio-oils. It is a great topic. By the way, there is also research in the area of human biolubricants. Why? Because people with arthritic joints have a general lack of natural synovial fluid in their joints. The causes are not yet well known but replacement synovial fluids are being looked at...but nothing found yet. So biotribologies are seeking safe alternatives and will take years of research. Lubricants themselves are a hidden gem. Think how the world would be without a lubricating substance! We would not be able to walk, talk, kiss, smell, turn our heads, jump, drive, fly, and even type on a keyboard without the appropriate lubricant to ameliorate the friction of two rubbing surfaces. And that is the study of tribology. Good question. Phillip Wolfe Society of Tribologists and Lubricant Engineers www.stle.org --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out > of canola oil. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
I would recommend starting here: http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html and prepare to do some reading. All the best, AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA On Dec 30, 2004, at 5:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola oil. Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil
Hello again Rich, Having just RE-read your actual question, (it would have helped had I actually done this in the first place!) it is painfully obvious that my previous link is going to be of no use to you. Good thing we have knowledgeable folks around here who do silly little thing's like READ THE QUESTIONS the first time, unlike myself, huh? Anyway, sorry for any confusion I may have caused. I have some egg to remove from my face now. LOL AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * "If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito." Dalai Lama * "The difference between truth and fiction is that fiction must make sense or nobody will believe it." Mark Twain * - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Making motor oil out of canola oil > I would like to know of a way to make motor oil out of canola oil. > > > > > > > > > Let's not talk about the unmentionables. ;-) > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/