Re: [Biofuel] Re: BioD test batch
Why do you say it's quick? What do you know about the background to this to jumpt to that conclusion? Nothing to say? Just who's being quick to assume something, eh? Assume indeed. Hmph. Keith Keith, You are awfully quick to assume something is bad based on its name. Not quick, certainly not awfully so - slow and exceedingly patient, in this case, despite immense provocation, but it came to an end eventually, as it had to. Why do you say it's quick? What do you know about the background to this to jumpt to that conclusion? What do you know about the Dr Pepper method to be condemning so quickly? Again, why so quickly? Trying to make a point? Sounds like a now-familiar refrain from you, Mr Foxtrot. Are you able to follow a link yet? Can your emailer show you quotes yet (previous messages) after five months of figuring it out or do I have to reformat it all for you? Uh, sorry, not going to do that, if you can't read it check it out at the list archives: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/ The Biofuel Archives Anyway, the link, all about the promoter of so-called methods named Dr Pepper - careful now, there are links within links, if you really want to know you'll have to drill down deeper than your usual single level: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/42146/1 Just to make it easier for you here's the main second-level url: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biodiesel/message/4254 I guess it's all lost on you though, since you can't seem to see why there just might be something amiss about buying stuff (whether paying or believing) from cheats and liars. I suggest you stop grinding your axe, Andy. I strongly suggest it. Keith Andy On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:04:35 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you (snip) I will cross reference your methoxide mix with my numbers as I have undertaken the same experiments comparing different processes (batch, two stage, acid base). However, from my experiences, my biod is cloudy after 1 hour of stiring but will settle out rather well over night (12+ hours). Furthermore, after seperation I let it settle another day (I get some more glyc on the bottom of the glass flask). By this time its quite clear. My two batches have been settling to several days with no appreciable change in clarity. Some more details. The Methanol I used is technical grade and is labeled at 99.5%. The KOH is lab grade is supposed to be 99% or better. The KOH has been open to the air only a very little bit and seems to be still flaky and dry with no clumps. I going to try washing it with the dr pepper method to see what happens. In the biodiesel world, anything called Dr Pepper is not a method and is to be avoided. Best wishes Keith Would you mind sharing your test batch process with me/us? Are you using NaOH or KOH? New oil? What numbers? Many thanks, Dana ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: BioD test batch
(snip) I will cross reference your methoxide mix with my numbers as I have undertaken the same experiments comparing different processes (batch, two stage, acid base). However, from my experiences, my biod is cloudy after 1 hour of stiring but will settle out rather well over night (12+ hours). Furthermore, after seperation I let it settle another day (I get some more glyc on the bottom of the glass flask). By this time its quite clear. My two batches have been settling to several days with no appreciable change in clarity. Some more details. The Methanol I used is technical grade and is labeled at 99.5%. The KOH is lab grade is supposed to be 99% or better. The KOH has been open to the air only a very little bit and seems to be still flaky and dry with no clumps. I going to try washing it with the dr pepper method to see what happens. In the biodiesel world, anything called Dr Pepper is not a method and is to be avoided. Best wishes Keith Would you mind sharing your test batch process with me/us? Are you using NaOH or KOH? New oil? What numbers? Many thanks, Dana ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Re: BioD test batch
Keith, You are awfully quick to assume something is bad based on its name. What do you know about the Dr Pepper method to be condemning so quickly? Andy On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:04:35 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you (snip) I will cross reference your methoxide mix with my numbers as I have undertaken the same experiments comparing different processes (batch, two stage, acid base). However, from my experiences, my biod is cloudy after 1 hour of stiring but will settle out rather well over night (12+ hours). Furthermore, after seperation I let it settle another day (I get some more glyc on the bottom of the glass flask). By this time its quite clear. My two batches have been settling to several days with no appreciable change in clarity. Some more details. The Methanol I used is technical grade and is labeled at 99.5%. The KOH is lab grade is supposed to be 99% or better. The KOH has been open to the air only a very little bit and seems to be still flaky and dry with no clumps. I going to try washing it with the dr pepper method to see what happens. In the biodiesel world, anything called Dr Pepper is not a method and is to be avoided. Best wishes Keith Would you mind sharing your test batch process with me/us? Are you using NaOH or KOH? New oil? What numbers? Many thanks, Dana ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Re: BioD test batch
You are awfully quick to assume something is bad based on its name. Not quick, certainly not awfully so - slow and exceedingly patient, in this case, despite immense provocation, but it came to an end eventually, as it had to. Why do you say it's quick? What do you know about the background to this to jumpt to that conclusion? What do you know about the Dr Pepper method to be condemning so quickly? Again, why so quickly? Trying to make a point? Sounds like a now-familiar refrain from you, Mr Foxtrot. Are you able to follow a link yet? Can your emailer show you quotes yet (previous messages) after five months of figuring it out or do I have to reformat it all for you? Uh, sorry, not going to do that, if you can't read it check it out at the list archives: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/ The Biofuel Archives Anyway, the link, all about the promoter of so-called methods named Dr Pepper - careful now, there are links within links, if you really want to know you'll have to drill down deeper than your usual single level: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/42146/1 Just to make it easier for you here's the main second-level url: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biodiesel/message/4254 I guess it's all lost on you though, since you can't seem to see why there just might be something amiss about buying stuff (whether paying or believing) from cheats and liars. I suggest you stop grinding your axe, Andy. I strongly suggest it. Keith Andy On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:04:35 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you (snip) I will cross reference your methoxide mix with my numbers as I have undertaken the same experiments comparing different processes (batch, two stage, acid base). However, from my experiences, my biod is cloudy after 1 hour of stiring but will settle out rather well over night (12+ hours). Furthermore, after seperation I let it settle another day (I get some more glyc on the bottom of the glass flask). By this time its quite clear. My two batches have been settling to several days with no appreciable change in clarity. Some more details. The Methanol I used is technical grade and is labeled at 99.5%. The KOH is lab grade is supposed to be 99% or better. The KOH has been open to the air only a very little bit and seems to be still flaky and dry with no clumps. I going to try washing it with the dr pepper method to see what happens. In the biodiesel world, anything called Dr Pepper is not a method and is to be avoided. Best wishes Keith Would you mind sharing your test batch process with me/us? Are you using NaOH or KOH? New oil? What numbers? Many thanks, Dana ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
