Re: [Biofuel] Re: Uses of glycerin and energy integration
Keith - Thank you for the correction and weblinks. P. Wolfe --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Pan Very interesting, as always, thankyou. Our biofuel members has the knowlede to jointly develope this small biomass refinary concept first.Yet practical optimized design need to be done and some comunity should com forward to test and improve this integrated design. Let us all join hand and make this as simple and easy to make this biorefinary that can be run in villages. Count me in - a project for this summer for JtF (I hope). I've asked for further information on handling the lye and the soaps in the biodiesel by-product along with the glycerin, I'll post any feedback I receive. Best wishes Keith Helo Greeting to all members Very good news from Pals to make the gas and liquid biofuel in an integrated way. There are many published papers abou the enhanced production of biogas from oily wastes and hence glycerine is an good intermediate metabolite and hence the results agree with theory.But here too we need mixed microbial populatio to work wll and need a lot of adoption time for the same , otherwise one may totally fail to produce gas There are two routes the bioconversion and thermo conversion to get energy from waste of the BioD making process. The combined Biogas generation , make me believe better than combustion, using the correct mixture of proteins and glycerine and salt need to be carefuly solved by the practical work . thus the samll biorefinary making biogas , bioD , Protein feed , liquid fertilizer can make the whole process much more flexible and more energy eficiente via integrated process. The CO2 removal using activated carbon and ammonia liquid as the co products can lead to the slow release fertilizer can furthermake this project more ecological The heated and vaporized method of use of the ethanol and BioD fuel together with biogas make the low cost IC engine more reality and more energy eficient for the rural area in the SOUTH. Thus the biomass refinary can be made possible to make energy and protein from Biomass Our biofuel members has the knowlede to jointly develope this small biomass refinary concept first.Yet practical optimized design need to be done and some comunity should com forward to test and improve this integrated design. Let us all join hand and make this as simple and easy to make this biorefinary that can be run in villages. Anaerobic Biodigestion is the correct way than other way to make much fuel. sd Pannirselvam On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:34:25 -0400, francisco j burgos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear pals: the digester where glycerin is feed is it an aerobious(works in presence of air) digester or an anaerobious(works without air presence) digester?. What is the glycerin feed rate to the digester?. Thanks in advance, Francisco - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Uses of glycerin Forwarded message from a Journey to Forever reader. Best wishes Keith Hello, I work at a wastewater treatment plant and I was doing a search on glycerin and biofuels and came across your website. It's has good information thanks. Here's another use of glycerin: Our treatment is accepting the glycerin from a biofuel producer, we feed it to our digesters, slowly very slowly. The addition of glycerin has dramatically increased our gas production, that we run all three engines that produce electricity for our plant and occasionally need to flare off the excess methane (we have 4 flares). This might be of interest to your readers that use digestion for electricity. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Química - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Pós Graduação em Engenharia Química - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho,
[Biofuel] Re: Uses of glycerin and energy integration
Helo Greeting to all members Very good news from Pals to make the gas and liquid biofuel in an integrated way. There are many published papers abou the enhanced production of biogas from oily wastes and hence glycerine is an good intermediate metabolite and hence the results agree with theory.But here too we need mixed microbial populatio to work wll and need a lot of adoption time for the same , otherwise one may totally fail to produce gas There are two routes the bioconversion and thermo conversion to get energy from waste of the BioD making process. The combined Biogas generation , make me believe better than combustion, using the correct mixture of proteins and glycerine and salt need to be carefuly solved by the practical work . thus the samll biorefinary making biogas , bioD , Protein feed , liquid fertilizer can make the whole process much more flexible and more energy eficiente via integrated process. The CO2 removal using activated carbon and ammonia liquid as the co products can lead to the slow release fertilizer can furthermake this project more ecological The heated and vaporized method of use of the ethanol and BioD fuel together with biogas make the low cost IC engine more reality and more energy eficient for the rural area in the SOUTH. Thus the biomass refinary can be made possible to make energy and protein from Biomass Our biofuel members has the knowlede to jointly develope this small biomass refinary concept first.Yet practical optimized design need to be done and some comunity should com forward to test and improve this integrated design. Let us all join hand and make this as simple and easy to make this biorefinary that can be run in villages. Anaerobic Biodigestion is the correct way than other way to make much fuel. sd Pannirselvam On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:34:25 -0400, francisco j burgos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear pals: the digester where glycerin is feed is it an aerobious(works in presence of air) digester or an anaerobious(works without air presence) digester?. What is the glycerin feed rate to the digester?. Thanks in advance, Francisco - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Uses of glycerin Forwarded message from a Journey to Forever reader. Best wishes Keith Hello, I work at a wastewater treatment plant and I was doing a search on glycerin and biofuels and came across your website. It's has good information thanks. Here's another use of glycerin: Our treatment is accepting the glycerin from a biofuel producer, we feed it to our digesters, slowly very slowly. The addition of glycerin has dramatically increased our gas production, that we run all three engines that produce electricity for our plant and occasionally need to flare off the excess methane (we have 4 flares). This might be of interest to your readers that use digestion for electricity. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Qumica - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Ps Graduao em Engenharia Qumica - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho, Campus Universitrio CEP 59.072-970 , Natal/RN - Brasil Residence : Av Odilon gome de lima, 2951, Q6/Bl.G/Apt 102 Capim Macio EP 59.078-400 , Natal/RN - Brasil Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: Uses of glycerin and energy integration
Very interesting, as always, thankyou. Our biofuel members has the knowlede to jointly develope this small biomass refinary concept first.Yet practical optimized design need to be done and some comunity should com forward to test and improve this integrated design. Let us all join hand and make this as simple and easy to make this biorefinary that can be run in villages. Count me in - a project for this summer for JtF (I hope). I've asked for further information on handling the lye and the soaps in the biodiesel by-product along with the glycerin, I'll post any feedback I receive. Best wishes Keith Helo Greeting to all members Very good news from Pals to make the gas and liquid biofuel in an integrated way. There are many published papers abou the enhanced production of biogas from oily wastes and hence glycerine is an good intermediate metabolite and hence the results agree with theory.But here too we need mixed microbial populatio to work wll and need a lot of adoption time for the same , otherwise one may totally fail to produce gas There are two routes the bioconversion and thermo conversion to get energy from waste of the BioD making process. The combined Biogas generation , make me believe better than combustion, using the correct mixture of proteins and glycerine and salt need to be carefuly solved by the practical work . thus the samll biorefinary making biogas , bioD , Protein feed , liquid fertilizer can make the whole process much more flexible and more energy eficiente via integrated process. The CO2 removal using activated carbon and ammonia liquid as the co products can lead to the slow release fertilizer can furthermake this project more ecological The heated and vaporized method of use of the ethanol and BioD fuel together with biogas make the low cost IC engine more reality and more energy eficient for the rural area in the SOUTH. Thus the biomass refinary can be made possible to make energy and protein from Biomass Our biofuel members has the knowlede to jointly develope this small biomass refinary concept first.Yet practical optimized design need to be done and some comunity should com forward to test and improve this integrated design. Let us all join hand and make this as simple and easy to make this biorefinary that can be run in villages. Anaerobic Biodigestion is the correct way than other way to make much fuel. sd Pannirselvam On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:34:25 -0400, francisco j burgos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear pals: the digester where glycerin is feed is it an aerobious(works in presence of air) digester or an anaerobious(works without air presence) digester?. What is the glycerin feed rate to the digester?. Thanks in advance, Francisco - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Uses of glycerin Forwarded message from a Journey to Forever reader. Best wishes Keith Hello, I work at a wastewater treatment plant and I was doing a search on glycerin and biofuels and came across your website. It's has good information thanks. Here's another use of glycerin: Our treatment is accepting the glycerin from a biofuel producer, we feed it to our digesters, slowly very slowly. The addition of glycerin has dramatically increased our gas production, that we run all three engines that produce electricity for our plant and occasionally need to flare off the excess methane (we have 4 flares). This might be of interest to your readers that use digestion for electricity. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Qumica - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Ps Graduao em Engenharia Qumica - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho, Campus Universitrio CEP 59.072-970 , Natal/RN - Brasil Residence : Av Odilon gome de lima, 2951, Q6/Bl.G/Apt 102 Capim Macio EP 59.078-400 , Natal/RN - Brasil Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 ___
