Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Hmm, I couldn't find that item earlier. I suppose that a "router speed control" is a different animal than a "router speed controller". What a difference two letters make! Depending how much trouble I have making and balancing an impeller that performs the proper mixing, I may just track one of these down. Take care, On 10/28/05, Derick Giorchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used mine with a 1/2" drill, clear water pump and the winch motor > that I have attached a hydraulic pump for oil transfer with no signs of > overheating. Harbor freight item # 43060 ovga router speed control $24.99 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:28 PM > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor > > On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that > is > > most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well > > It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I > see that some other sites are offering something called a router speed > controller. No issue with the motor overheating using the speed > controller? > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I have used mine with a 1/2" drill, clear water pump and the winch motor that I have attached a hydraulic pump for oil transfer with no signs of overheating. Harbor freight item # 43060 ovga router speed control $24.99 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is > most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I see that some other sites are offering something called a router speed controller. No issue with the motor overheating using the speed controller? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
> > >Keith said: > > > > I think free motors should be common enough too, lots of things you > > can salvage a motor from, some might be TEFC. What gets junked that > > uses TEFC motors but it's not usually the motor failing that gets it > > junked? > > I've been considering the exact same question. I haven't come up with > the answer yet though. Let me know if you think of something, I'll do > the same. > > Take care, > Ken is size a problem? don't grain elevators use TEFC motors? but they are absolutely Gia-normous monsters, size wise and hp as well, anywhere from 1 to 10hp and usually the size of a vanity wastebasket, and VERY heavy. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
In my area there are lots of abandoned hot tubs on the side of the road during area clean up the local landfill would surly have a few the motors would be good ill bet. Good luck Derick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:32 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor Hi Ken >Keith said: > > Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. > > Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are > > common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? > >Well, while motors are common enough buying the motor off the shelf >instead of the pump will cost me atleast twice as much. I think free motors should be common enough too, lots of things you can salvage a motor from, some might be TEFC. What gets junked that uses TEFC motors but it's not usually the motor failing that gets it junked? > >On the other > > hand if you get it to work that's great. Whatever, I can't see why > > you think I might want to bet on it. You asked if it's TEFC, I told > > you it is and pointed you to some information on its pumping limits, > > and so? > >Absolutely! I don't want to bet on it. That's why I'm asking >questions. I'm trying to raise a family and do the right things. $50 >is not much on the grand scale but $50 "here or there" is all together >different. And, as I've mentioned in the past, everything that I'm >doing, I want to be able help others with. That pump at Harbor >Freight is something that seems readily available at an affordable >price. The TEFC motor (again, off the shelf) is not quite as >affordable. I'm here to tell you, though, if I can save myself, a >friend or someone else who may be following the thread 50 bucks, I'm >gonna do it. In as globally friendly manner as possible, of course. Absolutely to you too, and strength to yer arm withal. I didn't want to put on one side or the other on whether it'll work or not. >I'll more than likely buy the motor that I found but, test the >improvised motor taken from the pump, when I can afford it, later. > >Take care, >Ken And you, good luck Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
> >Keith said: > > I think free motors should be common enough too, lots of things you > can salvage a motor from, some might be TEFC. What gets junked that > uses TEFC motors but it's not usually the motor failing that gets it > junked? I've been considering the exact same question. I haven't come up with the answer yet though. Let me know if you think of something, I'll do the same. Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Hi Ken >Keith said: > > Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. > > Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are > > common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? > >Well, while motors are common enough buying the motor off the shelf >instead of the pump will cost me atleast twice as much. I think free motors should be common enough too, lots of things you can salvage a motor from, some might be TEFC. What gets junked that uses TEFC motors but it's not usually the motor failing that gets it junked? > >On the other > > hand if you get it to work that's great. Whatever, I can't see why > > you think I might want to bet on it. You asked if it's TEFC, I told > > you it is and pointed you to some information on its pumping limits, > > and so? > >Absolutely! I don't want to bet on it. That's why I'm asking >questions. I'm trying to raise a family and do the right things. $50 >is not much on the grand scale but $50 "here or there" is all together >different. And, as I've mentioned in the past, everything that I'm >doing, I want to be able help others with. That pump at Harbor >Freight is something that seems readily available at an affordable >price. The TEFC motor (again, off the shelf) is not quite as >affordable. I'm here to tell you, though, if I can save myself, a >friend or someone else who may be following the thread 50 bucks, I'm >gonna do it. In as globally friendly manner as possible, of course. Absolutely to you too, and strength to yer arm withal. I didn't want to put on one side or the other on whether it'll work or not. >I'll more than likely buy the motor that I found but, test the >improvised motor taken from the pump, when I can afford it, later. > >Take care, >Ken And you, good luck Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Keith said: > Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. > Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are > common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? Well, while motors are common enough buying the motor off the shelf instead of the pump will cost me atleast twice as much. >On the other > hand if you get it to work that's great. Whatever, I can't see why > you think I might want to bet on it. You asked if it's TEFC, I told > you it is and pointed you to some information on its pumping limits, > and so? Absolutely! I don't want to bet on it. That's why I'm asking questions. I'm trying to raise a family and do the right things. $50 is not much on the grand scale but $50 "here or there" is all together different. And, as I've mentioned in the past, everything that I'm doing, I want to be able help others with. That pump at Harbor Freight is something that seems readily available at an affordable price. The TEFC motor (again, off the shelf) is not quite as affordable. I'm here to tell you, though, if I can save myself, a friend or someone else who may be following the thread 50 bucks, I'm gonna do it. In as globally friendly manner as possible, of course. I'll more than likely buy the motor that I found but, test the improvised motor taken from the pump, when I can afford it, later. Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well I have used it with a small high speed motor from a 110v wench that I luvjoyed to a week hydraulic pump. I found that the motor was so fast it wanted to spit out the luvjoy the speed reducer worked well to help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:59 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor I had a moment of clarity and called a local electric motor repair shop. It would seem that they might have something that someone decided not to pay to bill for. It would also seem that they might be willing to move it cheap to recoup expenses. Lo and behold, they have a 1/2 hp TEFC motor with a weak low speed (1200 +- RPM) but a strong high speed (1720+- RPM). The price is good, the best I've found. Is this thing going to be total overkill for a 55 gallon stir processor, though? Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
>On 10/26/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original > > >post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like > > >a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. > > > > Yes it is. More info here: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html#pumpcap > > Journey to Forever 90-litre processor > >Keith, > >Care to wager on whether the pump motor could be converted for use in >my stir process? Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? On the other hand if you get it to work that's great. Whatever, I can't see why you think I might want to bet on it. You asked if it's TEFC, I told you it is and pointed you to some information on its pumping limits, and so? Best Keith >Take care, >Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Sorry I mean winch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:54 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor Derick Giorchino wrote: from a 110v wench / winch whoopee, she sounds like fun. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob "Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves" - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my originalpost, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. Ah. I figured it was something "Fan-Cooled" but I figured "TE" stood for something technical and electrical in nature. So I kept trying to come up with a term that would fit. I have fan cooled, but none have enclosed windings and all of them do occasionally spark. One of them sparks constantly, so I won't be using that one. Not when turning it on and testing it produced a plume of sparks a good three feet long at first. Nope, no sir. It's a 1hp motor though, so I pity losing it. Would have made a good pumper. Best of luck to ya in your searches. Peace -Kurt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well I have used it with a small high speed motor from a 110v wench that I luvjoyed to a week hydraulic pump. I found that the motor was so fast it wanted to spit out the luvjoy the speed reducer worked well to help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:59 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor I had a moment of clarity and called a local electric motor repair shop. It would seem that they might have something that someone decided not to pay to bill for. It would also seem that they might be willing to move it cheap to recoup expenses. Lo and behold, they have a 1/2 hp TEFC motor with a weak low speed (1200 +- RPM) but a strong high speed (1720+- RPM). The price is good, the best I've found. Is this thing going to be total overkill for a 55 gallon stir processor, though? Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is > most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I see that some other sites are offering something called a router speed controller. No issue with the motor overheating using the speed controller? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Derick Giorchino wrote: from a 110v wench whoopee, she sounds like fun. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob "Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves" - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Generally pump motors are 2 pole: meaning they spin twice as fast as 4 pole motors, hence half the torque. Washing machine motors are usually 4 pole. regards Doug On Thursday 27 October 2005 3:49, Ken Dunn wrote: > On 10/26/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original > > >post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like > > >a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. > > > > Yes it is. More info here: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html#pumpcap > > Journey to Forever 90-litre processor > > Keith, > > Care to wager on whether the pump motor could be converted for use in > my stir process? > > Take care, > Ken > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
On 10/26/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original > >post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like > >a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. > > Yes it is. More info here: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html#pumpcap > Journey to Forever 90-litre processor Keith, Care to wager on whether the pump motor could be converted for use in my stir process? Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
>Kurt, > >Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original >post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like >a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. Yes it is. More info here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html#pumpcap Journey to Forever 90-litre processor These pumps have been used for years by biodieselers and have proved safe and reliable, even if they are often used in processors that are much too big for them (eg "Appleseed" water heater processors). Best wishes Keith >The nice thing about a >TEFC motor is that the windings of the motor are enclosed. That helps >to REDUCE the possibility of problems due to sparks. Considerig that >I'm building my processor in the garage (which is under part of my >house), I want to take every realistic precaution. Furthermore, we do >our homebrew community harm by not being responsible. > >Take care, > > > >On 10/25/05, Kurt Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm going to just admit right now that I have no clue what a TEFC motor is, > > but... I do have an assortment of various old tool and appliance >motors here > > at the house that I could probably come up with a way to part with. Would > > one of those work? > > > > -Kurt > > > > > > On 10/25/05, Ken Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe > > > stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the > > > many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor > > > Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, > > > I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for > > > $29.99USD. Here is the link: > > > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 > > > Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched > > > up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide > > > some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we > > > talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to > > > drive my planned stir biodiesel process? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I had a moment of clarity and called a local electric motor repair shop. It would seem that they might have something that someone decided not to pay to bill for. It would also seem that they might be willing to move it cheap to recoup expenses. Lo and behold, they have a 1/2 hp TEFC motor with a weak low speed (1200 +- RPM) but a strong high speed (1720+- RPM). The price is good, the best I've found. Is this thing going to be total overkill for a 55 gallon stir processor, though? Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
TEFC is “Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled” motor. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Nolte Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:51 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor I'm going to just admit right now that I have no clue what a TEFC motor is, but... I do have an assortment of various old tool and appliance motors here at the house that I could probably come up with a way to part with. Would one of those work? -Kurt On 10/25/05, Ken Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for $29.99USD. Here is the link: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to drive my planned stir biodiesel process? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Kurt, Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. The nice thing about a TEFC motor is that the windings of the motor are enclosed. That helps to REDUCE the possibility of problems due to sparks. Considerig that I'm building my processor in the garage (which is under part of my house), I want to take every realistic precaution. Furthermore, we do our homebrew community harm by not being responsible. Take care, On 10/25/05, Kurt Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to just admit right now that I have no clue what a TEFC motor is, > but... I do have an assortment of various old tool and appliance motors here > at the house that I could probably come up with a way to part with. Would > one of those work? > > -Kurt > > > On 10/25/05, Ken Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe > > stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the > > many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor > > Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, > > I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for > > $29.99USD. Here is the link: > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 > > Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched > > up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide > > some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we > > talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to > > drive my planned stir biodiesel process? > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
is, but... I do have an assortment of various old tool and appliance motors here at the house that I could probably come up with a way to part with. Would one of those work? -KurtOn 10/25/05, Ken Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybestumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of themany references to the clear water pumps available through HarborFreight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for$29.99USD. Here is the link:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matchedup to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could providesome assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor todrive my planned stir biodiesel process?___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I don't know about a TEFC motor but while on the subject I thought I would throw in an idea for a really low cost stirrer I built that was too easy. It may be too light for large batches but is perfect for 30 liters or maybe more. I picked up some surplus electric pencil erasers. A 1/4 inch shaft fits perfectly where the eraser rod used to fit. Tap the end of the shaft with a 4-40 thread and put a plastic model boat prop on. I use this for mixing methoxide (stainless rod) all the time. It is a very quiet motor :-) Joe > I wonder if someone could provide >some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we >talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to >drive my planned stir biodiesel process? > >___ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
1/4 horse should be fine. I wonder if they happen to be capacitor start motors. I'm not certain that cap start is a necessity but, it couldn't hurt. I believe that one hell of a vortex is just what the doctor ordered...maybe I misunderstand though. Thanks for your comments, On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had my pump apart, brass or bronze impeller the motor seems to be > sealed and has an external cooling fan. I think it is a 1/4 hp motor. > As for using it to spin a mixer I think it maybe a lot to ask inrush could > do some harm until the oil gets going and the r.p.m. would give you one hell > of a vortex. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:42 PM > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor > > I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe > stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the > many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor > Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, > I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for > $29.99USD. Here is the link: > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 > Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched > up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide > some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we > talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to > drive my planned stir biodiesel process? > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I have had my pump apart, brass or bronze impeller the motor seems to be sealed and has an external cooling fan. I think it is a 1/4 hp motor. As for using it to spin a mixer I think it maybe a lot to ask inrush could do some harm until the oil gets going and the r.p.m. would give you one hell of a vortex. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:42 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for $29.99USD. Here is the link: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to drive my planned stir biodiesel process? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I was looking back through to archives tonight to see if I could maybe stumble across a source for cheap TEFC motors and I found one of the many references to the clear water pumps available through Harbor Freight and Northern Tool and such. Upon checking out Harbor Freight, I noticed that they are selling a 1 inch clear water pump for $29.99USD. Here is the link: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1479 Looking at the image provided, I might assume that the motor matched up to the pump is a TEFC motor. I wonder if someone could provide some assistance. Is it in fact a TEFC motor? What sort of HP are we talking about? Could I disassemble the pump and use the motor to drive my planned stir biodiesel process? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking
Look up Chemicals in the yellow pages Brenntag comes to mind 2.45 gal. 4 drums or more 3.45 for one up for smaller sizes. Chris wrote: >Look up automobile in Yellow Pages, and find the guys that sell performance >parts, race car parts, etc. After a few calls, someone will tell you where >you can find it. I found a supplier in Cayce SC not 1 mile from my job >called Performance Parts. The race car community is rather tight and they >know what one another has or can get. > >Chris K >Cayce, SC > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:06 PM >Subject: [Biofuel] Still looking > > > > >>In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanol >>supplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one? >> >>Thanks, >>Bobby Clark >> >> >> >>___ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> >> > > > >___ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Looking at the archives, it appears that the RC airplane folks use methanol as well. Perhaps you can find some buffs in your area and talk to them also. Take care, Ken On 10/6/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look up automobile in Yellow Pages, and find the guys that sell performance > parts, race car parts, etc. After a few calls, someone will tell you where > you can find it. I found a supplier in Cayce SC not 1 mile from my job > called Performance Parts. The race car community is rather tight and they > know what one another has or can get. > > Chris K > Cayce, SC > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:06 PM > Subject: [Biofuel] Still looking > > > > In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanol > > supplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one? > > > > Thanks, > > Bobby Clark > > > > > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking
Look up automobile in Yellow Pages, and find the guys that sell performance parts, race car parts, etc. After a few calls, someone will tell you where you can find it. I found a supplier in Cayce SC not 1 mile from my job called Performance Parts. The race car community is rather tight and they know what one another has or can get. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Still looking > In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanol > supplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one? > > Thanks, > Bobby Clark > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Hey Bobby, same boat. Anderson/Pendleton Area. Closest thing I've found so far is $6.60/gallon... or so. And they'll have to order it, which of course will inevitably drive up the cost. Pool our resources? -KOn 10/5/05, Bobby Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanolsupplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one?Thanks,Bobby Clark___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Still looking
In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanol supplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one? Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
