Re: [Biofuel] pressure stoves ???

2006-04-15 Thread Daniel Louch
Hi

I use a mix of 50% biodiesel and 50% kerosene in an Optimus pressure burner 
which works well.  Am thinking of changing the proportions to less kerosene, 
but neat BD just made a mess and didn't burn the way it was supposed to 
(i.e. just a big yellow flame instead of the blue 'roaring' flame)  I know 
it's not ideal as you will have to purchse the kerosene, but it's a step in 
the right direction.

Have yet to try it in my Tilley lamp.

Regards

Daniel
- Original Message - 
From: Tonomár András
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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 1:22 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] pressure stoves ???


Hello Keith,

I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with little sucess.

The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not working with BD

On JTF website you write that your pressure stove is from India.
I like that type ( acording to the picters) and would like to buy some (3-5) 
pieces
depending on the price / availability.

I would appreciate any info you can give me on the source of yours.
(email address, or phone, or fax)

I live in Hungary and most of the US websites does not deliver here.

I plan to upgrade my 60L reactor to a 250L and I would like to switch from 
electric heating to an
indirect heating system through a heat exchanger that I designed this 
involves suncollectors, puffer tanks,
and presure stoves.

I plan to post the design ( if successfull ) so that all can produce BD with 
minimal or zero energy cost.

any help from list members will be appreciated.
Kind regards,

András Tonomár
energetic engeneer




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[Biofuel] pressure stoves ???

2006-04-14 Thread Tonomár András




Hello Keith,

I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable 
for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with 
little sucess.

The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock 
anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not 
working with BD

On JTF website you write thatyour pressure 
stove is from India.
I like that type ( acording to the picters) and 
would like to buy some (3-5) pieces
depending on the price / availability.

I would appreciate any info you can give me on the 
source of yours.
(email address, or phone, or fax)

I live in Hungary and most of the US websites does 
not deliver here.

I plan to upgrade my 60L reactor to a 250L and I 
would like to switch from electric heating to an 
indirect heating system through a heat exchanger 
that I designed this involves suncollectors, puffer tanks, 
and presure stoves. 

I plan to post the design ( if successfull ) so 
that all can produce BD with minimal or zero energy cost.

any help from list members will be 
appreciated.
Kind regards,

András Tonomár
energetic engeneer
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Re: [Biofuel] pressure stoves ???

2006-04-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Andrés

Hello Keith,

I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with little sucess.

The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not working with BD

Not as-is anyway.

On JTF website you write that your pressure stove is from India.
I like that type ( acording to the picters) and would like to buy 
some (3-5) pieces
depending on the price / availability.

They cost about US$10 equivalent in India. You can get them 
locally-made in a lot of countries, but not the industrialised 
countries.

I would appreciate any info you can give me on the source of yours.
(email address, or phone, or fax)

No information, sorry.

These are the only addresses I have:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lamps

Maybe someone in India or the Philippines or Singapore might like to help you.

I live in Hungary and most of the US websites does not deliver here.

I wonder if there aren't still local factories in Eastern Europe 
making pressure stoves. I would have guessed there would be, but 
maybe not.

Good luck.

Best

Keith



I plan to upgrade my 60L reactor to a 250L and I would like to 
switch from electric heating to an
indirect heating system through a heat exchanger that I designed 
this involves suncollectors, puffer tanks,
and presure stoves.

I plan to post the design ( if successfull ) so that all can produce 
BD with minimal or zero energy cost.

any help from list members will be appreciated.
Kind regards,

Andr·s Tonom·r
energetic engeneer


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Re: [Biofuel] pressure stoves ???

2006-04-14 Thread Mike Weaver
I have a PetroMax and have had no luck w/ BD.  I am not sure if it is 
the stove or not - I cleaned it and tried petro diesel with no luck, 
then ISO and got an ok flame.

I will try again now that things are warm.

FWIW, I never was able to get a flame at all w/ diesel BD or otherwise 
w/o heating with a torch.

-Mike

Keith Addison wrote:

Hello Andrés

  

Hello Keith,

I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with little sucess.

The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not working with BD



Not as-is anyway.

  

On JTF website you write that your pressure stove is from India.
I like that type ( acording to the picters) and would like to buy 
some (3-5) pieces
depending on the price / availability.



They cost about US$10 equivalent in India. You can get them 
locally-made in a lot of countries, but not the industrialised 
countries.

  

I would appreciate any info you can give me on the source of yours.
(email address, or phone, or fax)



No information, sorry.

These are the only addresses I have:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lamps

Maybe someone in India or the Philippines or Singapore might like to help you.

  

I live in Hungary and most of the US websites does not deliver here.



I wonder if there aren't still local factories in Eastern Europe 
making pressure stoves. I would have guessed there would be, but 
maybe not.

Good luck.

Best

Keith



  

I plan to upgrade my 60L reactor to a 250L and I would like to 
switch from electric heating to an
indirect heating system through a heat exchanger that I designed 
this involves suncollectors, puffer tanks,
and presure stoves.

I plan to post the design ( if successfull ) so that all can produce 
BD with minimal or zero energy cost.

any help from list members will be appreciated.
Kind regards,

Andr·s Tonom·r
energetic engeneer




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Re: [Biofuel] pressure stoves ???

2006-04-14 Thread Keith Addison
Should be noted that Petromax is now a generic name for that type 
of lantern, with quite wide variations available, all called 
Petromax. BriteLyt makes the original. Their stove is a newer 
patented design, not generic.

I have a PetroMax and have had no luck w/ BD.  I am not sure if it is
the stove or not - I cleaned it and tried petro diesel with no luck,
then ISO and got an ok flame.

I will try again now that things are warm.

FWIW, I never was able to get a flame at all w/ diesel BD or otherwise
w/o heating with a torch.

-Mike

I think you got a dud though. Let's see what BriteLyt says. They 
should give you a replacement and an apology, IMO.

Best

Keith


Keith Addison wrote:

 Hello Andrés
 
 
 
 Hello Keith,
 
 I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable for BD.
 I have browsed through the links from JTF with little sucess.
 
 The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock anyway.
 others I find come with wick which you say is not working with BD
 
 
 
 Not as-is anyway.
 
 
 
 On JTF website you write that your pressure stove is from India.
 I like that type ( acording to the picters) and would like to buy
 some (3-5) pieces
 depending on the price / availability.
 
 
 
 They cost about US$10 equivalent in India. You can get them
 locally-made in a lot of countries, but not the industrialised
 countries.
 
 
 
 I would appreciate any info you can give me on the source of yours.
 (email address, or phone, or fax)
 
 
 
 No information, sorry.
 
 These are the only addresses I have:
 http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lamps
 
 Maybe someone in India or the Philippines or Singapore might like 
to help you.
 
 
 
 I live in Hungary and most of the US websites does not deliver here.
 
 
 
 I wonder if there aren't still local factories in Eastern Europe
 making pressure stoves. I would have guessed there would be, but
 maybe not.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Best
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 
 
 I plan to upgrade my 60L reactor to a 250L and I would like to
 switch from electric heating to an
 indirect heating system through a heat exchanger that I designed
 this involves suncollectors, puffer tanks,
 and presure stoves.
 
 I plan to post the design ( if successfull ) so that all can produce
 BD with minimal or zero energy cost.
 
 any help from list members will be appreciated.
 Kind regards,
 
 Andr·s Tonom·r
 energetic engeneer


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