Re: [biofuel] 40 acres and a mule...er, tractor

2001-06-14 Thread Biofuels

Give or take a bit, 40 acres would produce 25,000 litres of biodiesel, but
would require input of 5000 litres of methanol - probably from petroleum
origin
Best seed is rape - over 40% oil content
Hempseed is about 21%
Excluding exotics, such as coco etc


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[biofuel] 40 acres and a mule...er, tractor

2001-06-14 Thread icblood

I've been a lurker for quite some time, and now I have a question:


The old standard for self sufficiency after the US Civil War was 40 
acres and a mule for freed slaves. Back to the future: Most farms in 
the USA use diesel tractors...the question is, how much bio-diesel can 
40 acres produce? Would I need more than 40 acres for livestock, 
crops, crop rotation, and allowing for letting fields lie fallow? 
nWhich is the most efficient crop to grow for bio-diesel? Hemp? 
Rapeseed? Other?

Thanks in advance. :-)

Jerome (Dragonfly)


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Re: [biofuel] 40 acres and a mule...er, tractor

2001-06-14 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Jerome

I've been a lurker for quite some time, and now I have a question:


The old standard for self sufficiency after the US Civil War was 40
acres and a mule for freed slaves.

That's a lot. Five Acres and Independence, they say, Three Acres 
and Liberty. If it was Chinese, there'd be eight farms supporting 40 
people and hundreds of animals.

Try this: Three Acres And Liberty by Bolton Hall, 1907, Macmillan - 
full text online:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sovereigntylibrary/0302%20homestedlibra 
ry/030203/030203mainframe.html

Then lie back and consider what luxury is yours with an entire 40 acres!

Back to the future: Most farms in
the USA use diesel tractors...the question is, how much bio-diesel can
40 acres produce?

Lots - yield tables here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html

Would I need more than 40 acres for livestock,
crops, crop rotation, and allowing for letting fields lie fallow?
nWhich is the most efficient crop to grow for bio-diesel? Hemp?
Rapeseed? Other?

Don't let fields lie fallow, use a grass ley system and grazing 
animals to make a good profit while regenerating the land for years 
of successive crops. Here's the best system, full text online, a real 
classic:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010128elliot/010128toc.html

Also, don't necessarily go for the oil crop with the highest yield, 
there are lots of other factors to consider - how it fits your 
cropping system, what other uses it has, by-products, crop waste 
values (fodder, mulch, compost material, biogas feedstock etc.). 
Consider the whole plant, the whole system, the whole farm.

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 

Thanks in advance. :-)

Jerome (Dragonfly)


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RE: [biofuel] 40 acres and a mule...er, tractor

2001-06-14 Thread kirk

Hey Fly.
Think what determined 40 acres. Man and mule. A tractor can let you handle
200 acres and I think you can still make a living, if you do it right, on
200 acres. Making a living goes beyond subsistence.
Also the capital investment in a tractor won't pencil on 40 acres. Maybe a
Chinese mini-diesel but not a full size.

Kirk

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I've been a lurker for quite some time, and now I have a question:


The old standard for self sufficiency after the US Civil War was 40
acres and a mule for freed slaves. Back to the future: Most farms in
the USA use diesel tractors...the question is, how much bio-diesel can
40 acres produce? Would I need more than 40 acres for livestock,
crops, crop rotation, and allowing for letting fields lie fallow?
nWhich is the most efficient crop to grow for bio-diesel? Hemp?
Rapeseed? Other?

Thanks in advance. :-)

Jerome (Dragonfly)


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