[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Hi All, I think the Minister is referring to the Flexible Fuel Vehicles, capable of sensing ethanol content in the fuel tank and adjust the spark timing accordingly. Brazil and Germany also entered into CDM agreement to promote the use of fuel ethanol. Samai --- murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- DVD Rentals with No Late Fees - Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/.ZSp6B/dlOFAA/46VHAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Hi MM Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year Complicated, I wish I knew more about it - complex stuff about subsidies and whether they were a good thing or not (not that the petro companies ever get subsidies of course!), big success stories and then negative ones, and pressure from the domestic oil industry. Very hard to see the thing straight without going there and getting mud on your boots at the local level. This is from the archives, two years ago: In 1984 Brazil decided to go the anhydrous ethanol route. It set up vehicle mix standards for manufacturers, and made available (until 1997) a subsidy of 140 million dollars to anhydrous ethanol (ae) manufacturers.In a country with 140 million people this is mere chickenfeed. Since then Brazil has manufactured close to six million vehicles that run on straight 100% ae. These include over seven hundred thousand trucks and farm tractors, and some twelve thousand buses. All manufacturers, and that includes Ford and GM, have a line-up of ae powered vehicles... All Brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% ae (v/v) content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future. and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Not that I know of. Maybe someone with Brazilian mud on their boots will enlighten us. Best Keith Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Hi All, I think the Minister is referring to the Flexible Fuel Vehicles, capable of sensing ethanol content in the fuel tank and adjust the spark timing accordingly. Brazil and Germany also entered into CDM agreement to promote the use of fuel ethanol. Samai You've got it - thanks Samai. Regards Keith --- murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
http://www.planetark.org/envpicstory.cfm/newsid/19100 s: Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program BRAZIL: December 17, 2002 RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - Brazil's new agriculture minister Roberto Rodrigues on Monday expressed strong support for a relaunch of the national sugar cane-based fuel alcohol program. It's one of the biggest generators of jobs, a clean environment and an alternative source of energy, Rodrigues said in an interview on Globo television. Rodrigues, 60, was appointed by president-elect Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva on Friday. Rodrigues is president of the Brazilian Association of Agribusiness and a sugar cane grower. Rodrigues said Brazil had 90 million hectares (222 million acres) of spare arable land, without touching the Amazon, in addition to the 56 million ha (138 million acres) it currently cultivated. Brazil has an enormous area for it, he said. Brazil's first Pro-Alcohol program, launched in the mid-1970s when oil prices were rocketing, collapsed at the end of the 1980s when supplies of fuel alcohol, also known as ethanol, dried up. Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. REUTERS NEWS PICTURE SERVICE Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
Hi MM Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year Complicated, I wish I knew more about it - complex stuff about subsidies and whether they were a good thing or not (not that the petro companies ever get subsidies of course!), big success stories and then negative ones, and pressure from the domestic oil industry. Very hard to see the thing straight without going there and getting mud on your boots at the local level. This is from the archives, two years ago: In 1984 Brazil decided to go the anhydrous ethanol route. It set up vehicle mix standards for manufacturers, and made available (until 1997) a subsidy of 140 million dollars to anhydrous ethanol (ae) manufacturers.In a country with 140 million people this is mere chickenfeed. Since then Brazil has manufactured close to six million vehicles that run on straight 100% ae. These include over seven hundred thousand trucks and farm tractors, and some twelve thousand buses. All manufacturers, and that includes Ford and GM, have a line-up of ae powered vehicles... All Brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% ae (v/v) content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future. and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Not that I know of. Maybe someone with Brazilian mud on their boots will enlighten us. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com From: Sam Jai-In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:33:23 + (GMT) Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Brazil's new agriculture minister backs ethanol program Hi All, I think the Minister is referring to the Flexible Fuel Vehicles, capable of sensing ethanol content in the fuel tank and adjust the spark timing accordingly. Brazil and Germany also entered into CDM agreement to promote the use of fuel ethanol. Samai --- murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuel alcohol has returned to favor following a record cane crop, sharp rise in oil prices this year and development of new engine technologies to use ethanol. I wonder what this last comment is in reference to? Has there been real progress in efficiency or power levels in using ethanol in engines? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
