[biofuel] Chemistry of washing
When I wash my test batch, it creates a vaccum in the container it is washed in. Obviously some kind of chemical reaction takes place. What could it be? And what does it absorb from the air??? I don't think it is the Co2 or the O2, could it be the N2?? Please enlighten me, or have I bungled it up yet again. Teoman Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Chemistry of washing
on 8/18/04 5:42 AM, Teoman Naskali at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I wash my test batch, it creates a vaccum > in the container it is washed in. Obviously > some kind of chemical reaction takes place. What > could it be? And what does it absorb from the > air??? Interesting -- I've never noticed that. My guess is that methanol is vaporizing out of the unwashed fuel before you seal the container, displacing air out of the headspace, and then dissolving in the wash water after the container is sealed. Nothing in the air would be taken up by the fuel quickly enough to explain it (O2 reacting with double bonds in unsaturated fatty acid chains would take days, for example). -K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Chemistry of washing
Ken Provost wrote: > on 8/18/04 5:42 AM, Teoman Naskali at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>When I wash my test batch, it creates a vaccum >>in the container it is washed in. Obviously >>some kind of chemical reaction takes place. What >>could it be? And what does it absorb from the >>air??? > > > Interesting -- I've never noticed that. My guess > is that methanol is vaporizing out of the unwashed > fuel before you seal the container, displacing air > out of the headspace, and then dissolving in the > wash water after the container is sealed. > > Nothing in the air would be taken up by the fuel > quickly enough to explain it (O2 reacting with > double bonds in unsaturated fatty acid chains > would take days, for example). -K > Perhaps the air above the biodiesel is warm at first and cools after washing, contracting and creating a vacuum. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Chemistry of washing
Teoman, There is not necessarily any "reaction" taking place in your wash. Any sealed vessel creates a slight vacuum when it cools. Ask yourself if what your experiencing is nothing more than that. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Teoman Naskali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: [biofuel] Chemistry of washing > When I wash my test batch, it creates a vaccum in the container it is > washed in. Obviously some kind of chemical reaction takes place. What > could it be? And what does it absorb from the air??? I don't think it is > the Co2 or the O2, could it be the N2?? > > Please enlighten me, or have I bungled it up yet again. > > Teoman > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
