Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-06-04 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc

Yes, but tug/trawler owners are almost as cheap as sailors when it  
comes to wanting fuel-stingy cruisers!

;-)


On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 07:58 PM, Bryan Fullerton wrote:

 You can never have enough Horsepower.. LOL My '83 Chevy Sport Van with  
 a
 turbo charged 6.5 can still put some of the newer doges and Fords to  
 shame..


 Bryan Fullerton
 White Knight Gifts
 www.youcandobusiness.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats


 Common, reliable, used in all sorts of marine applications, buses,  
 etc.

 Known as Screaming Green Leakers I believe, for their noteworthy
 tendency to run and run, but leak lube oil from various places.

 Just keep a rag handy.

 Pretty heavy on fuel use...my 40' tug had a Perkins 354-6, under  
 100HP,
 yet could tow a small barge well, and was very economical. Do you
 really need all that horsepower??

 Edward Beggs
 http://www.biofuels.ca


 On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:09 AM, Jack Kenworthy wrote:

 I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly
 marine-diesel familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot
 diesel work boat for a combined aquculture and dive operation and I  
 am
 wondering if any knows about:
 1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated
 at 450 HP?  I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines  
 in
 the past just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge
 pertaining to this model in particular.
 2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine  
 applications?
 Thanks for the help.
 Best,
 Jack
 Jack Kenworthy
 Sustainable Systems Director
 The Cape Eleuthera Island School
 242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
 www.islandschool.org

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Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-06-03 Thread Bryan Fullerton

This was not an engine that GM had Trouble with. You are referring to the
car 5.7 engine that many consider to be a gas engine converted to diesel
fuel. while that may be true i believe they did beef up the block some along
with the heads it was not enough and along with the short pushrods those
engines did not reliably last. As to their toughness they were marginal at
best.
The engine you refer too is basically an industrial type engine that is very
long lasting with the proper maintenance. The only real pain in the neck
problem I can think of is that some of them (most depending on who you ask)
leak oil. Usually a small seep here and there that just gets messy after a
while. I dont know if it was the gaskets or what but they get dirty in
trucks. They can be noisy but they are a working mans engine. A little
detail to the sound deadening system can usually quiet things down
acceptably.


Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com



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From: Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats


 It is a very loud engine.  One thing about them is if anything (i.e.
broken keyway) happens to the positive displacement roots type blower (not
the turbos) it will not start or even run.  We have had this problem with
the engine in our dump truck.  In a truck that doesnt bother me, but on the
water I'd be nervous.  But first, they are LOUD engines with that blower
screaming.  During my US Navy years they were trying hard to get away from
them since there were alot of better applications out there.

 Regards,
 Terry Wilhelm

 Jack Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly
marine-diesel familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot diesel
work boat for a combined aquculture and dive operation and I am wondering if
any knows about:
 1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated at
450 HP?  I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines in the past
just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge pertaining to this
model in particular.
 2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine applications?
 Thanks for the help.
 Best,
 Jack
 Jack Kenworthy
 Sustainable Systems Director
 The Cape Eleuthera Island School
 242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
 www.islandschool.org

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Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-06-03 Thread Bryan Fullerton

You can never have enough Horsepower.. LOL My '83 Chevy Sport Van with a
turbo charged 6.5 can still put some of the newer doges and Fords to shame..


Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com
- Original Message - 
From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats


 Common, reliable, used in all sorts of marine applications, buses, etc.

 Known as Screaming Green Leakers I believe, for their noteworthy
 tendency to run and run, but leak lube oil from various places.

 Just keep a rag handy.

 Pretty heavy on fuel use...my 40' tug had a Perkins 354-6, under 100HP,
 yet could tow a small barge well, and was very economical. Do you
 really need all that horsepower??

 Edward Beggs
 http://www.biofuels.ca


 On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:09 AM, Jack Kenworthy wrote:

  I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly
  marine-diesel familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot
  diesel work boat for a combined aquculture and dive operation and I am
  wondering if any knows about:
  1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated
  at 450 HP?  I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines in
  the past just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge
  pertaining to this model in particular.
  2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine applications?
  Thanks for the help.
  Best,
  Jack
  Jack Kenworthy
  Sustainable Systems Director
  The Cape Eleuthera Island School
  242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
  www.islandschool.org
 
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[biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Kenworthy

I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly marine-diesel 
familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot diesel work boat for a 
combined aquculture and dive operation and I am wondering if any knows about:
1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated at 450 HP? 
 I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines in the past just 
wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge pertaining to this model in 
particular.
2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine applications?
Thanks for the help.
Best,
Jack
Jack Kenworthy
Sustainable Systems Director
The Cape Eleuthera Island School
242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
www.islandschool.org

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Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-05-29 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc

Common, reliable, used in all sorts of marine applications, buses, etc.

Known as Screaming Green Leakers I believe, for their noteworthy  
tendency to run and run, but leak lube oil from various places.

Just keep a rag handy.

Pretty heavy on fuel use...my 40' tug had a Perkins 354-6, under 100HP,  
yet could tow a small barge well, and was very economical. Do you  
really need all that horsepower??

Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca


On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:09 AM, Jack Kenworthy wrote:

 I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly  
 marine-diesel familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot  
 diesel work boat for a combined aquculture and dive operation and I am  
 wondering if any knows about:
 1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated  
 at 450 HP?  I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines in  
 the past just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge  
 pertaining to this model in particular.
 2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine applications?
 Thanks for the help.
 Best,
 Jack
 Jack Kenworthy
 Sustainable Systems Director
 The Cape Eleuthera Island School
 242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
 www.islandschool.org

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Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Kenworthy

thanks for the input on the engine - much appreciated.  and it is not 
necessarily that I need that much power, but it is what's in the boat that is 
for sale.  It may also prove useful in hauling 1,500 lbs and ice from Eleuthera 
to the market in Nassau.
thanks again.
jack
Jack Kenworthy
Sustainable Systems Director
The Cape Eleuthera Island School
242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
www.islandschool.org
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Boats


  Common, reliable, used in all sorts of marine applications, buses, etc.

  Known as Screaming Green Leakers I believe, for their noteworthy  
  tendency to run and run, but leak lube oil from various places.

  Just keep a rag handy.

  Pretty heavy on fuel use...my 40' tug had a Perkins 354-6, under 100HP,  
  yet could tow a small barge well, and was very economical. Do you  
  really need all that horsepower??

  Edward Beggs
  http://www.biofuels.ca


  On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:09 AM, Jack Kenworthy wrote:

   I have a question for any mechanic-types out there - particularly  
   marine-diesel familiars.  I am thinking about purchasing a 40 foot  
   diesel work boat for a combined aquculture and dive operation and I am  
   wondering if any knows about:
   1 - this engine in particular:  General Motors 8V71 twin turbo rated  
   at 450 HP?  I know that GM has had some trouble with diesel engines in  
   the past just wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge  
   pertaining to this model in particular.
   2 - Special considerations for using biodiesel in marine applications?
   Thanks for the help.
   Best,
   Jack
   Jack Kenworthy
   Sustainable Systems Director
   The Cape Eleuthera Island School
   242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
   www.islandschool.org
  
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