Re: [biofuel] Model Engines
Martin Brook wrote: A company called Irvine do them in theUK. Irvine Engines Ltd, Unit 2, Brunswick Ind. Pk, New Southgate, London, N11 1JL. I've lost their number but directory enquiries have it. As a long-time model flying enthusiast, I have, of course been experimenting with biofuels in model engines with the following results: Glow plug fuel (conventional) is 0% to 15% nitromethane, 20% castor oil (and/or synth), the rest methanol. Ignition is by exothermic catalytic heating of methanol on hot platinum alloy coil (glow plug), in addition to compression heating. To take advantage of biod's great lubricity plus ability to burn, I tried a straight mix of biod + methanol. Of course they do not mix, so this approach is NBG. (This must also be the reason most of the XS meth ends up in glycerol rather than in the biod.) Model diesel fuel (conventional) is 30% ether, 20% oil, 50% paraffin. I tried a few alternative mixes and found 75% biod, 25% ether worked OK. Note the complete omission of separate lubricant. No sign of overheating or siezing even with prolonged running on several different engines (I have quite a collection, including some of the excellent Irvine diesels which are no longer made, just glow motors now). Power was noticably down on conventional fuel and I had the (subjective) impression that it wasn't burning fast enough. Exhaust residue much less than normal, and rather sticky. My flying companions thought I was having a barbeque from the smell. If Jeremy still wants to demo his fuel with this type of model engine, I suggest he enlists the help of an experienced model flyer, as there is a certain knack to starting and adjusting them. model airplane engines are retrofittable to run on diesel fuel. the kits are available at certain model store. they may not be that cheap though. anton -- From: Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Date: May 11, 2001, 9:05 PM Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Model Engines
A company called Irvine do them in theUK. Irvine Engines Ltd, Unit 2, Brunswick Ind. Pk, New Southgate, London, N11 1JL. I've lost their number but direct enquiries have it. - Original Message - From: anton and federica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Model Engines model airplane engines are retrofittable to run on diesel fuel. the kits are available at certain model store. they may not be that cheap though. anton -- From: Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Date: May 11, 2001, 9:05 PM Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Model Engines
www.davisdiesel.com - Original Message - From: anton and federica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Model Engines model airplane engines are retrofittable to run on diesel fuel. the kits are available at certain model store. they may not be that cheap though. anton -- From: Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Date: May 11, 2001, 9:05 PM Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Model Engines
Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Model Engines
found a company in the UK that sells diesel model airplane engines. forget the name might be in the archives. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Model Engines
Sorry to shoot your idea down, but I found out that people laugh at model engines. They just don't laugh as hard when they see it being done in a diesel car. So, if you still want a year old model engine that will runs on biodiesel, I'll sell you mine!!! Used it 3 or 4 times. Greg -Original Message- From: Jeremy Shuey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:05 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Model Engines
model airplane engines are retrofittable to run on diesel fuel. the kits are available at certain model store. they may not be that cheap though. anton -- From: Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Model Engines Date: May 11, 2001, 9:05 PM Does anyone know where a person could buy or build a working model of a diesel engine? I want to use the engine to burn the biodiesel that I make in demonstrations and also be able to do some testing with it. Any information would be appreciated. Also, the less expensive, the better. ;-) Thanks in advance. Jeremy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
