[biofuel] Re: The really soft proof of maybe something, kind of, or not..

2001-07-17 Thread k5farms

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 Whatever your feelings on GM, there is a danger in engineering a 
super-plant, in that it will behave like a 
 super-plant, and so will 

That article Keith posted about GM and changing the name of lead to 
Ethyl was enough for me to change alot of my idears about GM!!
Absolutely mind numbing!!! I hope everyone had a chance to read the 
last paragraph.

Yes, I know, off topic but the GM article really showed me how 
generations of people where really misled for a few cents per gallon, 
and all for something that ethanol could have done! Totally mind 
numbing, makes me wonder about anyone that might want to make their 
own few cents per gallon off of biodiesel.

I live next door to a Novartis plant and just pray that those in RD 
do a good job!! as they do hold the future of our kids in their hands.



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[biofuel] Re: The really soft proof of maybe something, kind of, or not..

2001-07-17 Thread rgarrod

My apologies if I used the wrong acronym - I meant genetically 
modified rather than General Motors!



  Whatever your feelings on GM, there is a danger in engineering a 
 super-plant, in that it will behave like a 
  super-plant,


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[biofuel] Re: The really soft proof of maybe something, kind of, or not..

2001-07-16 Thread rgarrod

Whatever your feelings on GM, there is a danger in engineering a 
   super-plant, in that it will behave like a 
super-plant, and so will 
   become a highly invasive and dominant species 
causing significant 
   problems to indigenous plants.

   Far better to concentrate on the highly varied,
and 
in many cases 
   under-utilized, widely available resources we 
already have. 

   OFF-TOPIC (I think most genetic codes that have 
been published (i.e. 
   peer reviewed in respected jornals) are freely 
available on the 
   internet, including that of a model plant.)End!

   RG
 
 Richard FitzGibbon wrote:
 
  OK group, here it is:
 
  In the 70's I read that a team of (New Mexico?) Ag
  students discovered the ancient ansestor of modern
  corn plant in the Sonoran Desert.  It only grew 4
  or 5 kernnels on a very small mis-shapen cob.  But
  it grew in the DESERT.
 
  In the 80's a (Florida?) Ag prof. was reported
  to hawe said that the common pond cattail contained
  more SUGAR per kilogram than any other plant.
 
  In the early 90's I read a report from a committee
  of geneticists that a plant could be GENETICALLY
  ALTERED to produce enough sugar to make
  distillation of ethanol economically feasable.
 
  I have no idea where these atatements are true or
  not.  I was not interested it the stuff at the
  time, so nothing remains but isolated memories.
  These memories are in my head.  I have no proof
  they occured.  Now I want to confirm them or discard
  them.  The tiny tread that connects these memories
  is the basis of my book.
 
  Anyone ever read these statemnts?  Know about them?
 
  So consider this, if a plant could be genetically
  bio-engineered to have the following characteristics:
  to grow in semiarid areas, to be easy to harvest, to
  never need cultivation, to be extremely high in
  sucrose and grow rapidly all year, then, the oil
  cartel would collapse, the skies would clear, global
  warming would stop and the cost of all
  manufactured goods prices would decrease.  Of
  course, the geneticist(s) would face some withering
  resistance from the oil cartel.  And I suspect they
  already have.
 
  I believe genecists are working on this precise
  task, someplace on earth, probably not in an oil
  producing nation or state (duh).
 
  My book is about the problems of a Sprint car
  driving physician (Yea!!!) releasing genetic
  research on the internet (the geeks plant genetic
  code, Yea!!!) in the face of oppposition from oil
  interests (Boo!!!).
 
  I think this is an important time in history.
 
  Don't give up.
 
  R.D. FitzGibbon


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