Re: [biofuel] fuel tanks

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Spence

no heater for biodiesel. heaters are only for vegetable oil. see
http://webconx.green-trust.org/making_biodiesel.htm

whatever mpg you get on diesel, you'll get about the same on biodiesel.

if you want to go vegetable oil, see
http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/yohn


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From: "Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "bio1" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] fuel tanks


> > Message: 7
> >Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:37:45 -
> >From: "girl_mark_fire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: fuel tanks
> >
> > hi Lisa, I'm assuming you're talking about straight vegetable oil
> > conversion, if you are talking about biodiesel then there's no
> > conversion necessary.
>
> I thought there has to be at least a heater or something that is not
> normally there?
>
>
>
> > SVO:
> > two people I know just destroyed their 7.3 Fords' injection pumps
> > running straight vegetable oil in these vehicles. I own this kind of
> > F-250 (mine is a 6.9 but it's similar) and love it,
>
> running the VIN thru a decoder revealed the following about the
> engine:
> 7.3L V8 445cid Diesel FI OHV 16V Vin M
>
>
> although it takes
> > a lot of fuel (but boy does it carry a lot of stuff).
>
> offlist, I'm hearing a figure of 18mpg on vegoil... does that seem
> realistic to you?
>
> (and I'm looking forward to the ability to carry "stuff"!)
>
>
>
> > Anyway doing a little looking and a lot of asking, a few things came
> > up about the seizures in my two friends' two Ford pumps- including
> > the fact that the Stanadyne pumps in these(what year is yours?)
>
> it's not mine YET ;^)
> 1988
>
>
>
> and the two tanks are really crying
> > for a simple conversion.
>
> I thought as much, but wasn't sure if the setup was suitable... you
> know, sometimes stuff that sounds too good to be true, is! lol
>
> I don't know much about "factory" two-tank systems... I don't suppose
> I'd be lucky enough for one to be considerably larger than the other?
>
>
>
> > (and on our trucks there's a built-in 12V fuel heater that might
> thin
> > it out even more)-
>
> is that more or less standard on that model, or an upgrade?  (i.e.,
> aftermarket)
>
>
>
> > Ed Beggs (who makes a fine SVO kit, his technology is what I'm
> > thinking about putting into my truck) suggested also that my
> friends'
> > failures have something to do with preexisting damage to the pumps
> > due to both vehicles being from California and the fact that they've
> > thus run on low-sulfur diesel longer than comperable vehicles in
> > other states (and suffered more damage from this fuel).
>
> AFAIK, this truck has been an east-coaster all its life, so don't have
> to worry about that too much.  (now, salt damage is another story...)
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm looking at a truck with dual tanks.  Is there any advantage
> (or
> > disadvantage, for that matter) to buying a vehicle with a pre-
> > existing 2-tank setup?  Is there anything I should watch out for or
> > ask the seller about?
> > >
> > > It's a Ford F-250 -- anybody had any experience with that model,
> > good or bad?  The only references I found in the archives were
> "just-
> > done" or "hope-to-do-soon" conversions, so not much info on how it
> > worked out.
> > >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [biofuel] fuel tanks

2003-04-02 Thread Lisa

> Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:37:45 -
>From: "girl_mark_fire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: fuel tanks
>
> hi Lisa, I'm assuming you're talking about straight vegetable oil
> conversion, if you are talking about biodiesel then there's no
> conversion necessary.

I thought there has to be at least a heater or something that is not
normally there?



> SVO:
> two people I know just destroyed their 7.3 Fords' injection pumps
> running straight vegetable oil in these vehicles. I own this kind of
> F-250 (mine is a 6.9 but it's similar) and love it,

running the VIN thru a decoder revealed the following about the
engine:
7.3L V8 445cid Diesel FI OHV 16V Vin M


although it takes
> a lot of fuel (but boy does it carry a lot of stuff).

offlist, I'm hearing a figure of 18mpg on vegoil... does that seem
realistic to you?

(and I'm looking forward to the ability to carry "stuff"!)



> Anyway doing a little looking and a lot of asking, a few things came
> up about the seizures in my two friends' two Ford pumps- including
> the fact that the Stanadyne pumps in these(what year is yours?)

it's not mine YET ;^)
1988



and the two tanks are really crying
> for a simple conversion.

I thought as much, but wasn't sure if the setup was suitable... you
know, sometimes stuff that sounds too good to be true, is! lol

I don't know much about "factory" two-tank systems... I don't suppose
I'd be lucky enough for one to be considerably larger than the other?



> (and on our trucks there's a built-in 12V fuel heater that might
thin
> it out even more)-

is that more or less standard on that model, or an upgrade?  (i.e.,
aftermarket)



> Ed Beggs (who makes a fine SVO kit, his technology is what I'm
> thinking about putting into my truck) suggested also that my
friends'
> failures have something to do with preexisting damage to the pumps
> due to both vehicles being from California and the fact that they've
> thus run on low-sulfur diesel longer than comperable vehicles in
> other states (and suffered more damage from this fuel).

AFAIK, this truck has been an east-coaster all its life, so don't have
to worry about that too much.  (now, salt damage is another story...)


Thanks!

Lisa



> --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm looking at a truck with dual tanks.  Is there any advantage
(or
> disadvantage, for that matter) to buying a vehicle with a pre-
> existing 2-tank setup?  Is there anything I should watch out for or
> ask the seller about?
> >
> > It's a Ford F-250 -- anybody had any experience with that model,
> good or bad?  The only references I found in the archives were
"just-
> done" or "hope-to-do-soon" conversions, so not much info on how it
> worked out.
> >



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[biofuel] fuel tanks

2003-04-01 Thread Lisa

I'm looking at a truck with dual tanks.  Is there any advantage (or 
disadvantage, for that matter) to buying a vehicle with a pre-existing 2-tank 
setup?  Is there anything I should watch out for or ask the seller about?

It's a Ford F-250 -- anybody had any experience with that model, good or bad?  
The only references I found in the archives were "just-done" or 
"hope-to-do-soon" conversions, so not much info on how it worked out.

Thanks! 


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