Re: [biofuel] methanol or methane CH4
Hi Joseph Very nice, clear explanation, thankyou! Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ John, Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in the molecule. (CH3OH) This is how it works for all the alcohols. Add the OH to ethane, and get ethanol; to propane, and get propanol; butane, butanol, and so on down the line. The location of the OH group on the molecule determines the isomer of the alcohol. For example, every one, I'm sure, knows propanol as rubbing alcohol or iso-propanol. The 'iso' shows where on the molecule the OH group is located. Methanol is a liquid at normal temps. Methane requires cryogenic temperatures to liquify. Thus when a vehicle uses CNG (compressed natural gas) as a fuel, it is stored in high pressure cylinders on the vehicle. Methanol can be stored in a conventioal fuel tank. However it is corrosive and leaches the lead and or tin out of the solder joints in the tank. It also does nasty things to the rubber components of the fuel system. Emmission components of methanol exhaust are rather nasty as well. However, methanol can be used in a fuel cell in place of hydrogen to generate electricity. Now if we can only get a small inexpensive fuel cell for vehicles... I hope this answered your question without getting too technical. hello. my name is john amory, victoria, au. my question is- is methane CH4 the gas version of methanol. If so, can methane be liquified back to methanol. thank you. ja thank you. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] methanol or methane CH4
hello. my name is john amory, victoria, au. my question is- is methane CH4 the gas version of methanol. If so, can methane be liquified back to methanol. thank you. ja thank you. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] methanol or methane CH4
John, Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in the molecule. (CH3OH) This is how it works for all the alcohols. Add the OH to ethane, and get ethanol; to propane, and get propanol; butane, butanol, and so on down the line. The location of the OH group on the molecule determines the isomer of the alcohol. For example, every one, I'm sure, knows propanol as rubbing alcohol or iso-propanol. The 'iso' shows where on the molecule the OH group is located. Methanol is a liquid at normal temps. Methane requires cryogenic temperatures to liquify. Thus when a vehicle uses CNG (compressed natural gas) as a fuel, it is stored in high pressure cylinders on the vehicle. Methanol can be stored in a conventioal fuel tank. However it is corrosive and leaches the lead and or tin out of the solder joints in the tank. It also does nasty things to the rubber components of the fuel system. Emmission components of methanol exhaust are rather nasty as well. However, methanol can be used in a fuel cell in place of hydrogen to generate electricity. Now if we can only get a small inexpensive fuel cell for vehicles... I hope this answered your question without getting too technical. hello. my name is john amory, victoria, au. my question is- is methane CH4 the gas version of methanol. If so, can methane be liquified back to methanol. thank you. ja thank you. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
