Re: [biofuel] mixing pumps

2003-09-01 Thread gobie


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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 At minimum you would also want the drive motor enclosure to be TEFC, fan
 cooled, continuous duty and preferable thermal overload protected.
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Pardon my ignorance but wouldn't, totally enclosed, fan cooled be an
oxymoron? Surely the cooling air has to enter and exit?

Regards Paul Gobert.



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Re: [biofuel] mixing pumps

2003-09-01 Thread Appal Energy

 wouldn't, totally enclosed, fan cooled be an
 oxymoron?

Paul,

I don't think so. An external fan can either pull in cooling air or displace
radiant heat. It's the actual electric works of the motor (rotor, windings,
brushes) that are encapsulated (totally enclosed) isolating any spark
source from the external atmosphere.

Todd Swearingen


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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] mixing pumps



 - Original Message -
 From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 snip
  At minimum you would also want the drive motor enclosure to be TEFC, fan
  cooled, continuous duty and preferable thermal overload protected.
 snip

 Pardon my ignorance but wouldn't, totally enclosed, fan cooled be an
 oxymoron? Surely the cooling air has to enter and exit?

 Regards Paul Gobert.




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Re: [biofuel] mixing pumps

2003-09-01 Thread gobie

I stand corrected there Todd, got to thinking after I made that post.
As you say a motor in a finned encapsulated case wth a fan on the dead end
of the output shaft flowing air through the fins would qualify.
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  wouldn't, totally enclosed, fan cooled be an
  oxymoron?

 Paul,




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[biofuel] mixing pumps

2003-08-31 Thread Jack Kenworthy

Wondering if anyone can help me with this one.  I am trying to source a pump 
that can handle the whole mixing job for the methoxide.  Presently I have to 
switch the portable mixer between the methoxide tank and the reaction tank and 
I also have to keep the lid to the methoxide tank open when mixing.  I am 
mixing roughly 35 gallons of methanol with almost 4 kg of lye.  Naturally, 
sonce the lye is at the bottom, the pump would have to be able to 
mix/grind/move that solid material along with the methanol until it dissolves 
completely (my pump draws out of the very bottom of the tank).  I appreciate 
any recommendations.
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Kenworthy
Sustainable Systems Director
The Cape Eleuthera Island School
242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
www.islandschool.org

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Re: [biofuel] mixing pumps

2003-08-31 Thread Appal Energy

Jack,

The cheapest best method would be a magnetic drive pump, where you wouldn't
need to be concerned about any loss of seals. The pump is magnetically
driven, not mechanically.

At minimum you would also want the drive motor enclosure to be TEFC, fan
cooled, continuous duty and preferable thermal overload protected.

March Manufacturing makes such pumps, with TEFC option starting with their
Series 5.

I'm none too sure whether Little Giant includes the totally enclosed option.
You'll have to calculate the number of change overs you want in the tank per
hour in order to size the pump.

Both company's products should be readily available world wide.
www.marchpump.com
http://www.marchpump.com/pump.htm
and
www.littlegiant.com

Todd Swearingen

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From: Jack Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: [biofuel] mixing pumps


 Wondering if anyone can help me with this one.  I am trying to source a
pump that can handle the whole mixing job for the methoxide.  Presently I
have to switch the portable mixer between the methoxide tank and the
reaction tank and I also have to keep the lid to the methoxide tank open
when mixing.  I am mixing roughly 35 gallons of methanol with almost 4 kg of
lye.  Naturally, sonce the lye is at the bottom, the pump would have to be
able to mix/grind/move that solid material along with the methanol until it
dissolves completely (my pump draws out of the very bottom of the tank).  I
appreciate any recommendations.
 Thanks,
 Jack
 Jack Kenworthy
 Sustainable Systems Director
 The Cape Eleuthera Island School
 242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
 www.islandschool.org

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