[biofuels-biz] Re: free links

2001-06-20 Thread david_design


Used oil ester is always darker than new oil ester. But perhaps this 
explains why my acid-base batch gave poor miles per gallon. I used 
loads of methanol, but it was a dark colour. Maybe I did not use 
enough base catalyst.

Or maybe I over-did the acid stage. Does anybody have any timings for 
the acid stage based on feedstock titrations. Last time we discussed, 
Alex had not had any oils of various quality to test.

Dave

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You could test for specific gravity (use a hydrometer)
 , viscosity, gel points (temp at which it starts to
 solidify),  or flash points.
 
 All of these need to be (about) right for an effective
 fuel, and are easy to test for. I got a catalogue for
 a schools chemistry supplier - they have all sorts of
 cheap(ish) meters - tho we haven't tried em yet -
 they're called Philip Harris and the phone no. is 0870
 6000193 (UK only ). If you say your'e a school they'll
 sell you chemicals (yuk yuk)
 
 john
 
 Aleks lists a few useful tests, here, see Quality:
 http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
 
 Also this, from Aleks:
 
 There is a rule of thumb: the brighter yellow in color, the better
 the crack. As a standard you should take virgin sunflower oil yellow
 color in see through sunlight. (it's a sort of colourometry)Then 
take
 a glass jar of the stuff and place it in front of a white wall in 
the
 evening. When seen in reflected light of a tungsten bulb it should
 not change to orange (a very simple case of absorbtion 
spectrometry).
 
 1.Nicely cracked bio : very pale yellow (less than virgin sunflower
 oil) and no change in color with artificial lighting
 2.Acceptable bio : yellow like virgin sunflower oil or straw, but 
will
 get orangy undertone in reflected tungsten light
 3.Deeper color diesel has a lot of glyc in it in form of various
 glycerids. Not good for standard engines.
 
 Remedy: If the diesel is too dark and you are sure that you used the
 correct quantitie(s) of catayst(s), add a pinch more of alcohol. Can
 be that you are loosing it due to evaporation. (it's getting quite
 hot in Slovenija)
 
 Best
 
 Keith Addison


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[biofuels-biz] Re: Free links

2001-06-19 Thread david_design

I'd like to be wrong on this, but as far as I can find out, DIN 51606 
testing is not commercially available in UK. I'm sure a university 
could sort something out. If you have time and can handle the 
beurocracy. 

Otherwise I think, test the factors which confirm the fuel's quality, 
water, glycerol, ph, copper corrosion, and perhaps calorific value. 
Can anybody suggest anything else we can use to confirm rather than 
prove compliance.

Dave

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 Does anyone have info on testing to din51606?
 
 Simon


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[biofuels-biz] Re: free links

2001-06-19 Thread john hornig

You could test for specific gravity (use a hydrometer)
, viscosity, gel points (temp at which it starts to
solidify),  or flash points. 

All of these need to be (about) right for an effective
fuel, and are easy to test for. I got a catalogue for
a schools chemistry supplier - they have all sorts of
cheap(ish) meters - tho we haven't tried em yet -
they're called Philip Harris and the phone no. is 0870
6000193 (UK only ). If you say your'e a school they'll
sell you chemicals (yuk yuk)

john

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[biofuels-biz] Re: free links

2001-06-19 Thread Keith Addison

You could test for specific gravity (use a hydrometer)
, viscosity, gel points (temp at which it starts to
solidify),  or flash points.

All of these need to be (about) right for an effective
fuel, and are easy to test for. I got a catalogue for
a schools chemistry supplier - they have all sorts of
cheap(ish) meters - tho we haven't tried em yet -
they're called Philip Harris and the phone no. is 0870
6000193 (UK only ). If you say your'e a school they'll
sell you chemicals (yuk yuk)

john

Aleks lists a few useful tests, here, see Quality:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html

Also this, from Aleks:

There is a rule of thumb: the brighter yellow in color, the better
the crack. As a standard you should take virgin sunflower oil yellow
color in see through sunlight. (it's a sort of colourometry)Then take
a glass jar of the stuff and place it in front of a white wall in the
evening. When seen in reflected light of a tungsten bulb it should
not change to orange (a very simple case of absorbtion spectrometry).

1.Nicely cracked bio : very pale yellow (less than virgin sunflower
oil) and no change in color with artificial lighting
2.Acceptable bio : yellow like virgin sunflower oil or straw, but will
get orangy undertone in reflected tungsten light
3.Deeper color diesel has a lot of glyc in it in form of various
glycerids. Not good for standard engines.

Remedy: If the diesel is too dark and you are sure that you used the
correct quantitie(s) of catayst(s), add a pinch more of alcohol. Can
be that you are loosing it due to evaporation. (it's getting quite
hot in Slovenija)

Best

Keith Addison


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