Fw: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
I wrote; - Original Message - From: "Henri Naths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01 April, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come Keith, I think it is quite irrelevant who sold what to whom, Hypothetically,I have the all the means at my disposal to kill a very large amount of people, does it mean the people that educated me are responsible? how about my bank? The money will come from them.!? The supply source is irrelevant. I could use anything in my hypothetical backyard and I'm no genius.Anybody can. The world history is full of these people that murder millions. The right person will be in the right place at the right time to take them out. That's a given. Hopefully political b.s. that man orchestrates won't impede the job that has be done before "these people " go on their murderous rampage. War has it's casualties let's not be one of them. We live in free democratic countries where we can make biodiesel. How cool is that... H. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01 April, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come Henri Naths wrote: Hakan, I would like to give a humble option here, ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. ) We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons of mass destruction. H. Judging from past posts, I think Hakan and many others here are a little sceptical about claims that the US "took out" Hitler. As for Saddam, as is very well known and widely established beyond any possibility of doubt or controversy... http://www.progressive.org/0901/anth0498.html The Progressive magazine April 1998 Issue Anthrax for Export U.S. companies sold Iraq the ingredients for a witch's brew by William Blum The United States almost went to war against Iraq in February because of Saddam Hussein's weapons program. In his State of the Union address, President Clinton castigated Hussein for "developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." "You cannot defy the will of the world," the President proclaimed. "You have used weapons of mass destruction before. We are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again." Most Americans listening to the President did not know that the United States supplied Iraq with much of the raw material for creating a chemical and biological warfare program. Nor did the media report that U.S. companies sold Iraq more than $1 billion worth of the components needed to build nuclear weapons and diverse types of missiles, including the infamous Scud. When Iraq engaged in chemical and biological warfare in the 1980s, barely a peep of moral outrage could be heard from Washington, as it kept supplying Saddam with the materials he needed to build weapons. From 1980 to 1988, Iraq and Iran waged a terrible war against each other, a war that might not have begun if President Jimmy Carter had not given the Iraqis a green light to attack Iran, in response to repeated provocations. Throughout much of the war, the United States provided military aid and intelligence information to both sides, hoping that each would inflict severe damage on the other. Noam Chomsky suggests that this strategy is a way for America to keep control of its oil supply: "It's been a leading, driving doctrine of U.S. foreign policy since the 1940s that the vast and unparalleled energy resources of the Gulf region will be effectively dominated by the United States and its clients, and, crucially, that no independent indigenous force will be permitted to have a substantial influence on the administration of oil production and price." During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq received the lion's share of American support because at the time Iran was regarded as the greater threat to U.S. interests. According to a 1994 Senate report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. Among the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were: * Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax. * Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin. * Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart. * Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs. * Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness. * Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance. Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," the Senate report stated. "It was later learned that these microorganisms export
Re: Fw: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come
I wonder what he's talking about... Keith I wrote; - Original Message - From: "Henri Naths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01 April, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come Keith, I think it is quite irrelevant who sold what to whom, Hypothetically,I have the all the means at my disposal to kill a very large amount of people, does it mean the people that educated me are responsible? how about my bank? The money will come from them.!? The supply source is irrelevant. I could use anything in my hypothetical backyard and I'm no genius.Anybody can. The world history is full of these people that murder millions. The right person will be in the right place at the right time to take them out. That's a given. Hopefully political b.s. that man orchestrates won't impede the job that has be done before "these people " go on their murderous rampage. War has it's casualties let's not be one of them. We live in free democratic countries where we can make biodiesel. How cool is that... H. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01 April, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come Henri Naths wrote: Hakan, I would like to give a humble option here, ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. ) We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons of mass destruction. H. Judging from past posts, I think Hakan and many others here are a little sceptical about claims that the US "took out" Hitler. As for Saddam, as is very well known and widely established beyond any possibility of doubt or controversy... http://www.progressive.org/0901/anth0498.html The Progressive magazine April 1998 Issue Anthrax for Export U.S. companies sold Iraq the ingredients for a witch's brew by William Blum The United States almost went to war against Iraq in February because of Saddam Hussein's weapons program. In his State of the Union address, President Clinton castigated Hussein for "developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." "You cannot defy the will of the world," the President proclaimed. "You have used weapons of mass destruction before. We are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again." Most Americans listening to the President did not know that the United States supplied Iraq with much of the raw material for creating a chemical and biological warfare program. Nor did the media report that U.S. companies sold Iraq more than $1 billion worth of the components needed to build nuclear weapons and diverse types of missiles, including the infamous Scud. When Iraq engaged in chemical and biological warfare in the 1980s, barely a peep of moral outrage could be heard from Washington, as it kept supplying Saddam with the materials he needed to build weapons. From 1980 to 1988, Iraq and Iran waged a terrible war against each other, a war that might not have begun if President Jimmy Carter had not given the Iraqis a green light to attack Iran, in response to repeated provocations. Throughout much of the war, the United States provided military aid and intelligence information to both sides, hoping that each would inflict severe damage on the other. Noam Chomsky suggests that this strategy is a way for America to keep control of its oil supply: "It's been a leading, driving doctrine of U.S. foreign policy since the 1940s that the vast and unparalleled energy resources of the Gulf region will be effectively dominated by the United States and its clients, and, crucially, that no independent indigenous force will be permitted to have a substantial influence on the administration of oil production and price." During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq received the lion's share of American support because at the time Iran was regarded as the greater threat to U.S. interests. According to a 1994 Senate report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. Among the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were: * Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax. * Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin. * Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart. * Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs. * Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness. * Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance. Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," the Senate report stated. "It w
