RE: RE: [Biofuel] How to choose a Biodiesel car or van???

2004-10-27 Thread Dan Volker

If I could find a 123 station wagon in good shape in this area, I would
definitely think about it.  
I'll put out some searches for one..Thanks.
Dan

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 Dan,
 
 Have you thought about getting an '80's 123 style diesel Benz?
 
 I own an '82 300TD [wagon] which was retrofitted from the r12 
 to the r134a A/C refrigerant and works great.
 
 My 2 cents.
 
 -Michael
 
 
 
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 From: Dan Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:38 pm
 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] How to choose a Biodiesel car or van???
 
  Thanks very much for the feedback.
  Because I live near West palm Beach Florida, it is nearly 
 impossible 
  to drive a car comfortably without AC most of the year. 
 With this in 
  mind, I
  have to choose a car or van that has a powerful AC unit.
 I suppose
  one other option could be to get a Vanagon and then add one 
 of the RV 
  air conditioner units to it ( and an inverter  to power 
 it), so I may 
  thinkalong these lines as well.
  I drive a Honda Insight myself now, and my wife has an old Crown 
  VictoriaStation Wagon from like 1986---it is in very good 
 condition, 
  and the other option I have with this car is to attempt to 
 convert it 
  to diesel-- and then run as biodiesel. This means first finding the 
  right diesel engine to match to this particular car, and 
 then finding 
  the right mechanics to do the conversion. I'm not sure 
 which will be a 
  bigger challenge;-)
  
  The ELSBETT engine sounds appealing, but I have no idea how hard it 
  would be to match one to my station wagon, how hard it would be to 
  find a mechaniccomfortable with this relatively unknown engine ( in 
  these parts), and I really have no sense of what this thing 
 would cost 
  from the web page ( cost of engine, shipping fees, cost of mating 
  transmission to it, etc).
  
  Anybody have any answers for this ? :-)
  
  
  Thanks,
  Dan Volker
  
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   Try to find a diesel VW Vanagon. They are sturdy, very roomy, get 
   about 25-30 MPG and they absolutely LOVE biodiesel. They 
 are easy to 
   fix and parts are still inexpensive. They will u-turn in 
 a lane and 
   a half and were the FIRST VW van to REALLY have brakes AND a good 
   ride. VERY EASY to convert into a pop top camper which makes them 
   even way cooler. The rear hatch is a BEAUTIFUL blank 
 pallet for your 
   bumper stickers too. WE have the beater and a diesel 
 Westy camper. 
   LOVE 'em.
   NOW...
   
   
They are SLOW and evoke many middle finger salutes here 
 in YUPPPIE 
   land. They will hit 70 on the freeway, but are very happy 
 at 55 and 
   most don't have AC. I keep a coke can in the beater that 
 holds the 
   vent wing open to blow air on me.
   The camper is nice.the vent window stays open by itself.
   
   Check ebay for Vanny diesels. They turn up from time to time. 
   RUST is not nearly the problem that the older Volksys 
 had, but watch 
   the camper models and check them for rust behind the 
 camper stuff. 
   If you can find a Vanny diesel with a blown engine, grab 
 it. There 
   are SCADS of rusted diesel Wabbits out there with great 
 cheap donor 
   enginers. Swapping an engine in a Vanny is EASY.
   
   As for other diesels out there, the Sprinter is BIG and roomy and 
   will run just fine on bio (but the water in fuel light 
 stays on), 
   but it is kinda junky. I bought a 2003 and we sold it 8 months 
   later. They could never fix the AC and it had scads of electrical 
   problems that the dealer was nevber able to fix. GREAT 
 engine tied 
   to a crappy van. Can't recommend any Benz, Volvo opr BMW cars of 
   late as the quality is so bad.
   
   Benz diesels up to about 86 are very good. They last a 
 long time and 
   love bio.
   
   VW diesels are good, but not the later ones. Let me explain. 
   VW cars were always cheap to buy, made cheap, parts were 
 cheap and 
   they were easy to fix.
   Now, they are getting expensive, parts are EXPENSIVE, 
 they are still 
   cheaply built, they still break a lot and they are no 
 longer easy to 
   fix. BUT, BUT, BUT, they ARE the only game in town for a 
 diesel car 
   that gets good milage. We have an 81 Wabbit diesel that 
 gets 55 mpg 
   on bio and a 99 Golf that gets
  about
   50+ on Bio. I had to put a clutch in the 99 and the clutch kit
  was
   50+ $750 A
   clutch for a Vanny is $80.
   
   Chrysler is putting a 2.5 diesel

Re: RE: [Biofuel] How to choose a Biodiesel car or van???

2004-10-26 Thread lendzian_michael

Dan,

Have you thought about getting an '80's 123 style diesel Benz?

I own an '82 300TD [wagon] which was retrofitted from the r12 to the r134a A/C 
refrigerant and works great.

My 2 cents.

-Michael



- Original Message -
From: Dan Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:38 pm
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] How to choose a Biodiesel car or van???

 Thanks very much for the feedback.
 Because I live near West palm Beach Florida, it is nearly 
 impossible to
 drive a car comfortably without AC most of the year. With this in 
 mind, I
 have to choose a car or van that has a powerful AC unit.  I suppose
 one other option could be to get a Vanagon and then add one of the 
 RV air
 conditioner units to it ( and an inverter  to power it), so I may 
 thinkalong these lines as well.  
 I drive a Honda Insight myself now, and my wife has an old Crown 
 VictoriaStation Wagon from like 1986---it is in very good 
 condition, and the other
 option I have with this car is to attempt to convert it to diesel--
 and then
 run as biodiesel. This means first finding the right diesel engine 
 to match
 to this particular car, and then finding the right mechanics to do the
 conversion. I'm not sure which will be a bigger challenge;-)
 
 The ELSBETT engine sounds appealing, but I have no idea how hard 
 it would be
 to match one to my station wagon, how hard it would be to find a 
 mechaniccomfortable with this relatively unknown engine ( in these 
 parts), and I
 really have no sense of what this thing would cost from the web 
 page ( cost
 of engine, shipping fees, cost of mating transmission to it, etc).
 
 Anybody have any answers for this ? :-)
 
 
 Thanks,
 Dan Volker
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:32 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Biofuel] How to choose a Biodiesel car or van???
  
  
  Try to find a diesel VW Vanagon. They are sturdy, very roomy, 
  get about 25-30 MPG and they absolutely LOVE biodiesel. They 
  are easy to fix and parts are still inexpensive. They will 
  u-turn in a lane and a half and were the FIRST VW van to 
  REALLY have brakes AND a good ride. VERY EASY to convert into 
  a pop top camper which makes them even way cooler. The rear 
  hatch is a BEAUTIFUL blank pallet for your bumper stickers 
  too. WE have the beater and a diesel Westy camper. LOVE 'em.  
  NOW...
  
  
   They are SLOW and evoke many middle finger salutes here in 
  YUPPPIE land. They will hit 70 on the freeway, but are very 
  happy at 55 and most don't have AC. I keep a coke can in the 
  beater that holds the vent wing open to blow air on me. 
  The camper is nice.the vent window stays open by itself.
  
  Check ebay for Vanny diesels. They turn up from time to time. 
  RUST is not nearly the problem that the older Volksys had, 
  but watch the camper models and check them for rust behind 
  the camper stuff. If you can find a Vanny diesel with a blown 
  engine, grab it. There are SCADS of rusted diesel Wabbits out 
  there with great cheap donor enginers. Swapping an engine in 
  a Vanny is EASY.
  
  As for other diesels out there, the Sprinter is BIG and roomy 
  and will run just fine on bio (but the water in fuel light 
  stays on), but it is kinda junky. I bought a 2003 and we sold 
  it 8 months later. They could never fix the AC and it had 
  scads of electrical problems that the dealer was nevber able 
  to fix. GREAT engine tied to a crappy van. Can't recommend 
  any Benz, Volvo opr BMW cars of late as the quality is so bad.
  
  Benz diesels up to about 86 are very good. They last a long 
  time and love bio.
  
  VW diesels are good, but not the later ones. Let me explain. 
  VW cars were always cheap to buy, made cheap, parts were 
  cheap and they were easy to fix.
  Now, they are getting expensive, parts are EXPENSIVE, they 
  are still cheaply built, they still break a lot and they are 
  no longer easy to fix. BUT, BUT, BUT, they ARE the only game 
  in town for a diesel car that gets good milage. We have an 81 
  Wabbit diesel that gets 55 mpg on bio and a 99 Golf that gets 
 about 
  50+ on Bio. I had to put a clutch in the 99 and the clutch kit 
 was 
  50+ $750 A
  clutch for a Vanny is $80.
  
  Chrysler is putting a 2.5 diesel in the Jeep Liberty, but 
  they will only sell it to you as an upmarket EXPENSIVE 
  version to get the diesel. That company is now owned by Benz, 
  so that puts up a red flag to me.
  
  Wish the other makes would bring their diesels 
  here..man a diesel Honde El;ement would be cool.
  
  So, I ramble. Check out the Vanigon diesels and the PRE 2004 
  VW Jetta Wagon .
  BTW, we have a multi bike rack that fits on the back of the 
  Vanny. Cool device, but it DOES cover up some of the stickers
  
  Take care and GOOD LUCK