Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer

2007-04-19 Thread Dawie Coetzee
I shall repeat this at every opportunity.

The operative phrase here is, if every vehicle in the United States ran on 
fuel made primarily from ethanol instead of pure gasoline.

Emissions effects are a function of vehicle use patterns. Small-scale ethanol 
is viable at radically reduced vehicle use levels; petrol isn't.

As for the alternatives, battery-electric, plug-in-hybrid and hydrogen-fuel 
cell vehicles, the first might make sense in the case of a 
pedestrian-controlled hand-cart for small-scale urban deliveries. It's a milk 
float, good old home-brew technology. The best electric vehicles are still 
those that are mains-supplied, like trams (i.e. trolleys/streetcars). The other 
alternatives might well have economies-of-scale and organizational viability 
implications that would require making the problem a lot worse in order to make 
it a little bit better. That is, they might require even greater concentrations 
of economic-technological power, protected by even more draconian technological 
disempowerment of you and me, than we've already got.

-Dawie


- Original Message 
From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2007 5:46:31 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer




 Ethanol is a killer

Study: Ethanol Vehicles Pose A Significant Risk To Human Health
Health

http://www.playfuls.com/news_006682_Study_Ethanol_Vehicles_Pose_A_Significant_Risk_To_Human_Health.html

Avatar02:14 PM, April 18th 2007
by Alex Radulescu

Ethanol is widely touted as an eco-friendly, clean-burning fuel. But if
every vehicle in the United States ran on fuel made primarily from
ethanol instead of pure gasoline, the number of respiratory-related
deaths and hospitalizations would likely increase, according to a new
study by Stanford University atmospheric scientist Mark Z. Jacobson. His
findings are published in the April 18 online edition of the journal
Environmental Science  Technology (EST).
''Ethanol is being promoted as a clean and renewable fuel that will
reduce global warming and air pollution,'' said Jacobson, associate
professor of civil and environmental engineering. ''But our results show
that a high blend of ethanol poses an equal or greater risk to public
health than gasoline, which already causes significant health damage.''
Gasoline vs. ethanol
For the study, Jacobson used a sophisticated computer model to simulate
air quality in the year 2020, when ethanol-fueled vehicles are expected
to be widely available in the United States.
''The chemicals that come out of a tailpipe are affected by a variety of
factors, including chemical reactions, temperatures, sunlight, clouds,
wind and precipitation,'' he explained. ''In addition, overall health
effects depend on exposure to these airborne chemicals, which varies
from region to region. Ours is the first ethanol study that takes into
account population distribution and the complex environmental
interactions.''
In the experiment, Jacobson ran a series of computer tests simulating
atmospheric conditions throughout the United States in 2020, with a
special focus on Los Angeles. ''Since Los Angeles has historically been
the most polluted airshed in the U.S., the testbed for nearly all U.S.
air pollution regulation and home to about 6 percent of the U.S.
population, it is also ideal for a more detailed study,'' he wrote.
Jacobson programmed the computer to run air quality simulations
comparing two future scenarios:
A vehicle fleet (that is, all cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc., in the
United States) fueled by gasoline, versus A fleet powered by E85, a
popular blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.
The results of the computer simulations were striking. ''We found that
E85 vehicles reduce atmospheric levels of two carcinogens, benzene and
butadiene, but increase two others-formaldehyde and acetaldehyde,''
Jacobson said. ''As a result, cancer rates for E85 are likely to be
similar to those for gasoline. However, in some parts of the country,
E85 significantly increased ozone, a prime ingredient of smog.''
Inhaling ozone-even at low levels-can decrease lung capacity, inflame
lung tissue, worsen asthma and impair the body's immune system,
according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The World Health
Organization estimates that 800,000 people die each year from ozone and
other chemicals in smog.
''In our study, E85 increased ozone-related mortalities in the United
States by about 200 deaths per year compared to gasoline, with about 120
of those deaths occurring in Los Angeles,'' Jacobson said. ''These
mortality rates represent an increase of about 4 percent in the U.S. and
9 percent in Los Angeles above the projected ozone-related death rates
for gasoline-fueled vehicles in 2020.''
The study showed that ozone increases in Los Angeles and the
northeastern United States will be partially offset by decreases in the
southeast. ''However, we found that nationwide, E85 is likely to

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer

2007-04-19 Thread Joe Street

Hey Dawie;

Ever checked out the scene about aldehyde formation from biodiesel?  
Combustion is just not good. But some fuels are better than others.


Joe

Dawie Coetzee wrote:


I shall repeat this at every opportunity.
 
The operative phrase here is, if every vehicle in the United States 
ran on fuel made primarily from ethanol instead of pure gasoline.
 
Emissions effects are a function of vehicle use patterns. Small-scale 
ethanol is viable at radically reduced vehicle use levels; petrol isn't.
 
As for the alternatives, battery-electric, plug-in-hybrid and 
hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles, the first might make sense in the case 
of a pedestrian-controlled hand-cart for small-scale urban deliveries. 
It's a milk float, good old home-brew technology. The best electric 
vehicles are still those that are mains-supplied, like trams (i.e. 
trolleys/streetcars). The other alternatives might well have 
economies-of-scale and organizational viability implications that 
would require making the problem a lot worse in order to make it a 
little bit better. That is, they might require even greater 
concentrations of economic-technological power, protected by even more 
draconian technological disempowerment of you and me, than we've 
already got.
 
-Dawie


- Original Message 
From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2007 5:46:31 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer



 Ethanol is a killer

Study: Ethanol Vehicles Pose A Significant Risk To Human Health
Health


http://www.playfuls.com/news_006682_Study_Ethanol_Vehicles_Pose_A_Significant_Risk_To_Human_Health.html

Avatar02:14 PM, April 18th 2007
by Alex Radulescu

Ethanol is widely touted as an eco-friendly, clean-burning fuel.
But if
every vehicle in the United States ran on fuel made primarily from
ethanol instead of pure gasoline, the number of respiratory-related
deaths and hospitalizations would likely increase, according to a new
study by Stanford University atmospheric scientist Mark Z.
Jacobson. His
findings are published in the April 18 online edition of the journal
Environmental Science  Technology (EST).
''Ethanol is being promoted as a clean and renewable fuel that will
reduce global warming and air pollution,'' said Jacobson, associate
professor of civil and environmental engineering. ''But our
results show
that a high blend of ethanol poses an equal or greater risk to public
health than gasoline, which already causes significant health
damage.''
Gasoline vs. ethanol
For the study, Jacobson used a sophisticated computer model to
simulate
air quality in the year 2020, when ethanol-fueled vehicles are
expected
to be widely available in the United States.
''The chemicals that come out of a tailpipe are affected by a
variety of
factors, including chemical reactions, temperatures, sunlight, clouds,
wind and precipitation,'' he explained. ''In addition, overall health
effects depend on exposure to these airborne chemicals, which varies
from region to region. Ours is the first ethanol study that takes into
account population distribution and the complex environmental
interactions.''
In the experiment, Jacobson ran a series of computer tests simulating
atmospheric conditions throughout the United States in 2020, with a
special focus on Los Angeles. ''Since Los Angeles has historically
been
the most polluted airshed in the U.S., the testbed for nearly all U.S.
air pollution regulation and home to about 6 percent of the U.S.
population, it is also ideal for a more detailed study,'' he wrote.
Jacobson programmed the computer to run air quality simulations
comparing two future scenarios:
A vehicle fleet (that is, all cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc., in the
United States) fueled by gasoline, versus A fleet powered by E85, a
popular blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.
The results of the computer simulations were striking. ''We found that
E85 vehicles reduce atmospheric levels of two carcinogens, benzene and
butadiene, but increase two others-formaldehyde and acetaldehyde,''
Jacobson said. ''As a result, cancer rates for E85 are likely to be
similar to those for gasoline. However, in some parts of the country,
E85 significantly increased ozone, a prime ingredient of smog.''
Inhaling ozone-even at low levels-can decrease lung capacity, inflame
lung tissue, worsen asthma and impair the body's immune system,
according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The World Health
Organization estimates that 800,000 people die each year from
ozone and
other chemicals in smog.
''In our study, E85 increased ozone-related mortalities in the United
States by about 200 deaths per year compared to gasoline, with
about 120
of those 

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer

2007-04-19 Thread Dawie Coetzee
All I'm saying is, it depends on the total volume of all vehicle emissions out 
there. If that were low enough, any sort of fuel would have to be a lot more 
awful than anything currently or potentially available before it's a real 
problem. In other words, what's a little aldehyde? provided it's not a lot of 
aldehyde. -D


- Original Message 
From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, 19 April, 2007 3:47:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer

Hey Dawie;

Ever checked out the scene about aldehyde formation from biodiesel?  Combustion 
is just not good. But some fuels are better than others.

Joe

Dawie Coetzee wrote:

I shall repeat this at every opportunity.
 
The operative phrase here is, if every vehicle in the United States ran on 
fuel made primarily from ethanol instead of pure gasoline.
 
Emissions effects are a function of vehicle use patterns. Small-scale ethanol 
is viable at radically reduced vehicle use levels; petrol isn't.
 
As for the alternatives, battery-electric, plug-in-hybrid and hydrogen-fuel 
cell vehicles, the first might make sense in the case of a 
pedestrian-controlled hand-cart for small-scale urban deliveries. It's a milk 
float, good old home-brew technology. The best electric vehicles are still 
those that are mains-supplied, like trams (i.e. trolleys/streetcars). The other 
alternatives might well have economies-of-scale and organizational viability 
implications that would require making the problem a lot worse in order to make 
it a little bit better. That is, they might require even greater concentrations 
of economic-technological power, protected by even more draconian technological 
disempowerment of you and me, than we've already got.
 
-Dawie


- Original Message 
From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2007 5:46:31 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol is a killer




 Ethanol is a killer

Study: Ethanol Vehicles Pose A Significant Risk To Human Health
Health

http://www.playfuls.com/news_006682_Study_Ethanol_Vehicles_Pose_A_Significant_Risk_To_Human_Health.html

Avatar02:14 PM, April 18th 2007
by Alex Radulescu

Ethanol is widely touted as an eco-friendly, clean-burning fuel. But if
every vehicle in the United States ran on fuel made primarily from
ethanol instead of pure gasoline, the number of respiratory-related
deaths and hospitalizations would likely increase, according to a new
study by Stanford University atmospheric scientist Mark Z. Jacobson. His
findings are published in the April 18 online edition of the journal
Environmental Science  Technology (EST).
''Ethanol is being promoted as a clean and renewable fuel that will
reduce global warming and air pollution,'' said Jacobson, associate
professor of civil and environmental engineering. ''But our results show
that a high blend of ethanol poses an equal or greater risk to public
health than gasoline, which already causes significant health damage.''
Gasoline vs. ethanol
For the study, Jacobson used a sophisticated computer model to simulate
air quality in the year 2020, when ethanol-fueled vehicles are expected
to be widely available in the United States.
''The chemicals that come out of a tailpipe are affected by a variety of
factors, including chemical reactions, temperatures, sunlight, clouds,
wind and precipitation,'' he explained. ''In addition, overall health
effects depend on exposure to these airborne chemicals, which varies
from region to region. Ours is the first ethanol study that takes into
account population distribution and the complex environmental
interactions.''
In the experiment, Jacobson ran a series of computer tests simulating
atmospheric conditions throughout the United States in 2020, with a
special focus on Los Angeles. ''Since Los Angeles has historically been
the most polluted airshed in the U.S., the testbed for nearly all U.S.
air pollution regulation and home to about 6 percent of the U.S.
population, it is also ideal for a more detailed study,'' he wrote.
Jacobson programmed the computer to run air quality simulations
comparing two future scenarios:
A vehicle fleet (that is, all cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc., in the
United States) fueled by gasoline, versus A fleet powered by E85, a
popular blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.
The results of the computer simulations were striking. ''We found that
E85 vehicles reduce atmospheric levels of two carcinogens, benzene and
butadiene, but increase two others-formaldehyde and acetaldehyde,''
Jacobson said. ''As a result, cancer rates for E85 are likely to be
similar to those for gasoline. However, in some parts of the country,
E85 significantly increased ozone, a prime ingredient of smog.''
Inhaling ozone-even at low levels-can decrease lung capacity, inflame
lung tissue, worsen asthma and impair the body's immune system,
according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The World