Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Mike Weaver
Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html

Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern

By MARCUS KABEL
Associated Press Writer

BENTONVILLE, Ark.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, 
a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on 
environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing 
suppliers and competitors to keep up.

Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby 
clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, 
is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer 
demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a 
battered reputation.

Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart 
is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice 
Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.

A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano 
features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what 
kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale 
shoppers.

Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good 
marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that 
Americans are increasingly interested in, Peterson said.

Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate 
sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a 
way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric 
Co., for example, last year launched a program called Ecomagination 
to bring green technologies like wind power to market.

What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is 
the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations 
with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their 
goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 
U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally.

They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're 
talking about, it's their entire supply chain, said Jeff Erikson, 
U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group 
SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for 
Wal-Mart.

Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted 
over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and 
competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger 
organic offerings.

We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making 
pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large, 
Erikson said.

Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next 
month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such 
as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.

Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' 
conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items 
in stores this summer at the Wal-Mart price.

Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. 
But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer 
brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes 
enough suppliers to adopt green practices.

Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of 
the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, 
said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the 
impact could be good for the environment.

I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The 
question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?' Pope 
said.

Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart 
last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which 
accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine 
Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.

The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the 
conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products 
company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which 
fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the 
ocean environment.

Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is 
that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries 
around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the 
existing stock of certified fish.

Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that 
will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods 
Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according 
to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 
items.

The way Wal-Mart hatched the fish plan is typical of how it operates.

Peter Redmond, vice president and divisional merchandise manager in 
charge of deli and seafood, said he conceived the idea after meeting 
MSC board 

Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread ROY Washbish
It meanssomething to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers.  Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA.  Roy  Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hogwash.USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.Keith Addison wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.htmlWal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up RetailMar 24 6:17 PM US/EasternBy MARCUS KABELAssociated Press WriterBENTONVILLE, Ark.Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing
 suppliers and competitors to keep up.Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation.Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers."Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation
 building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said.Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called "Ecomagination" to bring green technologies like wind power to market.What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally."They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson,
 U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart.Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings."We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large," Erikson said.Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this
 summer "at the Wal-Mart price."Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices.Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment."I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'" Pope said.Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the
 Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment.Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified fish.Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250
 items.The way Wal-Mart hatched the fish plan is typical of how it 

Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread John Mullan
What I find amazing is the use of the term organic.

Absolutely everything that you can grow is organic.  A rock is not
organic.

So in reality they can grow anything and call it organic.  When will
people smarten up.


On 3/27/2006, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html

Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern

By MARCUS KABEL
Associated Press Writer

BENTONVILLE, Ark.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products,
a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on
environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing
suppliers and competitors to keep up.

Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby
clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment,
is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer
demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a
battered reputation.

Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart
is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice
Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.

A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano
features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what
kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale
shoppers.

Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good
marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that
Americans are increasingly interested in, Peterson said.

Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate
sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a
way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric
Co., for example, last year launched a program called Ecomagination
to bring green technologies like wind power to market.

What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is
the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations
with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their
goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000
U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally.

They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're
talking about, it's their entire supply chain, said Jeff Erikson,
U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group
SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for
Wal-Mart.

Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted
over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and
competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger
organic offerings.

We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making
pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large,
Erikson said.

Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next
month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such
as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.

Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts'
conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items
in stores this summer at the Wal-Mart price.

Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job.
But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer
brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes
enough suppliers to adopt green practices.

Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of
the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer,
said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the
impact could be good for the environment.

I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The
question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?' Pope
said.

Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart
last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which
accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine
Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.

The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the
conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products
company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which
fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the
ocean environment.

Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is
that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries
around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the
existing stock of certified fish.

Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that
will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods
Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according
to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250
items.

The 

Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Joe Street




Damn that was going to be my line! I feel like I am being tag teamed by
the two Mikes and I can't get anything off my chest!

Signed,
Sizzle Chest

Mike Weaver wrote:

  Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:

  
  
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html

Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern

By MARCUS KABEL
Associated Press Writer

BENTONVILLE, Ark.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, 
a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on 
environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing 
suppliers and competitors to keep up.

Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby 
clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, 
is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer 
demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a 
battered reputation.

Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart 
is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice 
Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.

A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano 
features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what 
kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale 
shoppers.

"Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good 
marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that 
Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said.

Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate 
sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a 
way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric 
Co., for example, last year launched a program called "Ecomagination" 
to bring green technologies like wind power to market.

What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is 
the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations 
with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their 
goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 
U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally.

"They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're 
talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson, 
U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group 
SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for 
Wal-Mart.

Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted 
over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and 
competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger 
organic offerings.

"We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making 
pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large," 
Erikson said.

Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next 
month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such 
as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.

Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' 
conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items 
in stores this summer "at the Wal-Mart price."

Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. 
But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer 
brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes 
enough suppliers to adopt green practices.

Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of 
the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, 
said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the 
impact could be good for the environment.

"I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The 
question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'" Pope 
said.

Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart 
last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which 
accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine 
Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.

The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the 
conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products 
company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which 
fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the 
ocean environment.

Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is 
that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries 
around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the 
existing stock of certified fish.

Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that 
will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods 
Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according 
to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 
items.

The way Wal-Mart hatched 

Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Joe Street




Well give ur head a shake cause "certified oganic" doesn't mean what
you probably think anymore.

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57481.html

Joe

ROY Washbish wrote:

  It meanssomething to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start
and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their
suppliers.
  Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA.
  Roy
  
  
  Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html

Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern

By MARCUS KABEL
Associated Press Writer

BENTONVILLE, Ark.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic
products, 
a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on 
environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing 
suppliers and competitors to keep up.

Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby 
clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the
environment, 
is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet
consumer 
demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish
a 
battered reputation.

Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers
Wal-Mart 
is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice 
Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.

A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of
Plano 
features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see
what 
kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of
upscale 
shoppers.

"Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good 
marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things
that 
Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said.

Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate 
sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in
a 
way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General
Electric 
Co., for example, last year launched a program called
"Ecomagination" 
to bring green technologies like wind power to market.

What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say,
is 
the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations 
with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape
their 
goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 
U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally.

"They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're 
talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson, 
U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group 
SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work
for 
Wal-Mart.

Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted 
over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers
and 
competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger

organic offerings.

"We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and
making 
pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large,"

Erikson said.

Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next 
month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such

as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.

Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' 
conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food
items 
in stores this summer "at the Wal-Mart price."

Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. 
But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the
retailer 
brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes 
enough suppliers to adopt green practices.

Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of 
the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer,

said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the 
impact could be good for the environment.

"I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The 
question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'"
Pope 
said.

Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart 
last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which

accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the
Marine 
Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.

The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the 
conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products

company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know
which 
fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the 
ocean environment.

Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is 
that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries 
around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the 
existing stock of certified 

Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Keith Addison
But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean 
something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that 
local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is 
not organic.

Best

Keith


It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and 
they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their 
suppliers.
Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA.
Roy


Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:

 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html
 
 Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
 
 Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern
 
 By MARCUS KABEL
 Associated Press Writer
 
 BENTONVILLE, Ark.
 

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Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Mike Weaver
Mike is a US-bashing crackpot.

I would not believe a thing he says.

Keith Addison wrote:

But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean 
something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that 
local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is 
not organic.

Best

Keith


  

It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and 
they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their 
suppliers.
Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA.
Roy


Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hogwash.

USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.

Keith Addison wrote:



http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html

Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern

By MARCUS KABEL
Associated Press Writer

BENTONVILLE, Ark.

  


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Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread doug
John Mullan wrote:

What I find amazing is the use of the term organic.

Absolutely everything that you can grow is organic.  A rock is not
organic.

So in reality they can grow anything and call it organic.  When will
people smarten up.

  

Sure, Organic Chemistry relates to carbon based chemistry.  From the 
m-w.com site:

(1) *:* of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds (2) *:* relating 
to, being, or dealt with by a branch of chemistry concerned with the 
carbon compounds of living beings and most other carbon compounds

So petroleum based fertilizer is organic, by definition!

(aaaggghh!)

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Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail

2006-03-27 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings,
For those of you who like to buy good food in the US, Certified Naturally 
Grown has the old organic standard that agribusiness could not meet.  It is 
not government run, the farmers certify each other.
Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 12:51 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
Mike is a US-bashing crackpot.

I would not believe a thing he says.

Keith Addison wrote:

 But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean
 something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that
 local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is
 not organic.
 
 Best
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 
 It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and
 they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their
 suppliers.
 Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA.
 Roy
 
 
 Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hogwash.
 
 USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.
 
 Keith Addison wrote:
 
 
 
 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html
 
 Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
 
 Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern
 
 By MARCUS KABEL
 Associated Press Writer
 
 BENTONVILLE, Ark.
 
 
 
 
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