Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing suppliers and competitors to keep up. Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation. Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global. A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers. Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in, Peterson said. Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called Ecomagination to bring green technologies like wind power to market. What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally. They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain, said Jeff Erikson, U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart. Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings. We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large, Erikson said. Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics. Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this summer at the Wal-Mart price. Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices. Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment. I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?' Pope said. Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way. The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment. Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified fish. Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 items. The way Wal-Mart hatched the fish plan is typical of how it operates. Peter Redmond, vice president and divisional merchandise manager in charge of deli and seafood, said he conceived the idea after meeting MSC board
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
It meanssomething to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers. Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA. Roy Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash.USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING.Keith Addison wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.htmlWal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up RetailMar 24 6:17 PM US/EasternBy MARCUS KABELAssociated Press WriterBENTONVILLE, Ark.Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing suppliers and competitors to keep up.Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation.Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global.A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers."Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said.Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called "Ecomagination" to bring green technologies like wind power to market.What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally."They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson, U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart.Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings."We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large," Erikson said.Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics.Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this summer "at the Wal-Mart price."Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices.Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment."I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'" Pope said.Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way.The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment.Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified fish.Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 items.The way Wal-Mart hatched the fish plan is typical of how it
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
What I find amazing is the use of the term organic. Absolutely everything that you can grow is organic. A rock is not organic. So in reality they can grow anything and call it organic. When will people smarten up. On 3/27/2006, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing suppliers and competitors to keep up. Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation. Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global. A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers. Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in, Peterson said. Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called Ecomagination to bring green technologies like wind power to market. What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally. They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain, said Jeff Erikson, U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart. Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings. We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large, Erikson said. Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics. Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this summer at the Wal-Mart price. Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices. Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment. I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?' Pope said. Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way. The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment. Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified fish. Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 items. The
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
Damn that was going to be my line! I feel like I am being tag teamed by the two Mikes and I can't get anything off my chest! Signed, Sizzle Chest Mike Weaver wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing suppliers and competitors to keep up. Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation. Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global. A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers. "Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said. Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called "Ecomagination" to bring green technologies like wind power to market. What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally. "They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson, U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart. Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings. "We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large," Erikson said. Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics. Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this summer "at the Wal-Mart price." Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices. Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment. "I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'" Pope said. Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way. The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment. Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified fish. Wal-Mart says this means there will be more sustainable fish that will also be available to Wal-Mart's competitors, such as Whole Foods Market, which already sells about 18 MSC certified items, according to the MSC Web site. Wal-Mart plans to offer between 200 and 250 items. The way Wal-Mart hatched
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
Well give ur head a shake cause "certified oganic" doesn't mean what you probably think anymore. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57481.html Joe ROY Washbish wrote: It meanssomething to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers. Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA. Roy Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is throwing its weight behind organic products, a move that experts say could have the same lasting effect on environmental practices that Wal-Mart has had on prices by forcing suppliers and competitors to keep up. Putting new items on the shelf this year, from organic cotton baby clothes to ocean fish caught in ways that don't harm the environment, is part of a broader green policy launched last year to meet consumer demand, cut costs for things like energy and packaging and burnish a battered reputation. Organic products are one lure for the more affluent shoppers Wal-Mart is trying to woo away from rivals like Target Corp., said Alice Peterson, president of Chicago-based consultancy Syrus Global. A new Supercenter that opened this week in the Dallas suburb of Plano features over 400 organic foods as part of an experiment to see what kinds of products and interior decor can grab the interest of upscale shoppers. "Like many big companies, they have figured out it is just good marketing and good reputation building to be in favor of things that Americans are increasingly interested in," Peterson said. Wal-Mart's Lee Scott is not the first chief executive to advocate sustainability, a term for the corporate ethos of doing business in a way that benefits the environment. Industrial giant General Electric Co., for example, last year launched a program called "Ecomagination" to bring green technologies like wind power to market. What makes Wal-Mart's efforts unique, sustainability experts say, is the retailer's sheer size and the power that gives it in relations with suppliers. Wal-Mart works closely with suppliers to shape their goods, if they want them on the shelves of Wal-Mart's nearly 4,000 U.S. stores and over 2,200 internationally. "They have huge potential because it's not just Wal-Mart we're talking about, it's their entire supply chain," said Jeff Erikson, U.S. director of London-based consultancy and research group SustainAbility. The group says it does not do any consulting work for Wal-Mart. Erikson said Wal-Mart could bring the same pressure it has exerted over the years on prices and apply that to pushing manufacturers and competitors to adopt more sustainable business practices and larger organic offerings. "We love to see companies like Wal-Mart taking a big step and making pronouncements as they have, because their tentacles are so large," Erikson said. Wal-Mart plans to double its organic grocery offerings in the next month and continue looking for more products to offer in areas such as grocery, apparel, paper and electronics. Stephen Quinn, vice president of marketing, told an analysts' conference this month that Wal-Mart would have 400 organic food items in stores this summer "at the Wal-Mart price." Some Wal-Mart critics call the effort just a public relations job. But others say Wal-Mart could make a real difference if the retailer brings a critical mass of organic products to market and pushes enough suppliers to adopt green practices. Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope, who is a board member of the union-backed group Wal-Mart Watch that criticizes the retailer, said it is too soon to tell if Wal-Mart will deliver but that the impact could be good for the environment. "I think the direction they've said is a positive direction. The question is, `Are they are going to go there strongly enough?'" Pope said. Some of the new items will be seafood caught in the wild. Wal-Mart last month announced a plan to have all its wild-caught fish, which accounts for about a third of seafood sales, certified by the Marine Stewardship Council as caught in a sustainable way. The London-based MSC, founded in 1997 as a venture of the conservation group World Wildlife Fund and global consumer products company Unilever, issues the certificates to let consumers know which fisheries avoid overfishing and use methods that don't damage the ocean environment. Sustainability experts say what makes this program interesting is that Wal-Mart will work with its suppliers to get more fisheries around the globe certified by MSC, instead of just buying up the existing stock of certified
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is not organic. Best Keith It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers. Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA. Roy Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
Mike is a US-bashing crackpot. I would not believe a thing he says. Keith Addison wrote: But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is not organic. Best Keith It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers. Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA. Roy Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
John Mullan wrote: What I find amazing is the use of the term organic. Absolutely everything that you can grow is organic. A rock is not organic. So in reality they can grow anything and call it organic. When will people smarten up. Sure, Organic Chemistry relates to carbon based chemistry. From the m-w.com site: (1) *:* of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds (2) *:* relating to, being, or dealt with by a branch of chemistry concerned with the carbon compounds of living beings and most other carbon compounds So petroleum based fertilizer is organic, by definition! (aaaggghh!) doug swanson -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail
Greetings, For those of you who like to buy good food in the US, Certified Naturally Grown has the old organic standard that agribusiness could not meet. It is not government run, the farmers certify each other. Bright Blessings, Kim At 12:51 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote: Mike is a US-bashing crackpot. I would not believe a thing he says. Keith Addison wrote: But Mike's right, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean something, but not that it's organic. It definitely doesn't mean that local farm produce that doesn't have USDA organic certification is not organic. Best Keith It means something to me. Someone with CLOUT is making a start and they are willing to help it happen rather than MANDATE it to their suppliers. Kind of unusual and long overdue in the good old USA. Roy Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hogwash. USDA Organic doesn't MEAN ANYTHING. Keith Addison wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/24/D8GI7S484.html Wal-Mart's Organics Could Shake Up Retail Mar 24 6:17 PM US/Eastern By MARCUS KABEL Associated Press Writer BENTONVILLE, Ark. snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/