Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread Martin K



Andrew Cunningham wrote:

I know it must have been one heck of a new years party but I wasn't alive yet.

Andy


Hi Andy,
I saw a normal date on this message. Where are you seeing that?

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Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread bob allen


I see that date attached to mail to me every once in a while.

Martin K wrote:




Andrew Cunningham wrote:

I know it must have been one heck of a new years party but I wasn't 
alive yet.


Andy



Hi Andy,
I saw a normal date on this message. Where are you seeing that?




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Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread Martin K


When life began.
No, really there is a variable in all machines that has the number of 
seconds since Jan 1, 1970. So if the data is '1969-12-31', your clock is 
set to zero. It usually gets set to zero in an email address if the 
person sending the message has an outdated email client, or an 
intermediary mail server has problems.


Many times the archive [link below] cannot decipher the date from 
someone's email, but I wrote it to set the date to the current day 
instead of setting it to 1969, resulting in it being less wrong.

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bob allen wrote:
is that date some sort of default value if a computer clock screws up?   
I see that date attached to mail to me every once in a while.



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Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread John Hayes



That is the Unix date of 'epoch'
When life began.
No, really there is a variable in all machines that has the number of 
seconds since Jan 1, 1970. So if the data is '1969-12-31', your clock is 
set to zero. It usually gets set to zero in an email address if the 
person sending the message has an outdated email client, or an 
intermediary mail server has problems.


Yup. And that brings us to the 2038 bug. On January 19, 2038 the 32-bit 
integer that stores the number of seconds* since the Unix epoch began 
rolls over. Then bad things happen...


...unless we move everything to 64-bit unix time. The 64-bit time 
rollover is presumed not to be a problem because the sun will run out of 
hydrogen and turn into a white dwarf star first.


jh

*(2,147,483,647 in case you were wondering)



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Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Cunningham

Oh No!

That is the first I heard of the Y2.038K bug!  We best all prepare for the end!

Andy


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:02:34 -0500, John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin K wrote:
  That is the Unix date of 'epoch'
  When life began.
  No, really there is a variable in all machines that has the number of
  seconds since Jan 1, 1970. So if the data is '1969-12-31', your clock is
  set to zero. It usually gets set to zero in an email address if the
  person sending the message has an outdated email client, or an
  intermediary mail server has problems.
 
 Yup. And that brings us to the 2038 bug. On January 19, 2038 the 32-bit
 integer that stores the number of seconds* since the Unix epoch began
 rolls over. Then bad things happen...
 
 ...unless we move everything to 64-bit unix time. The 64-bit time
 rollover is presumed not to be a problem because the sun will run out of
 hydrogen and turn into a white dwarf star first.
 
 jh
 
 *(2,147,483,647 in case you were wondering)
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Why do my messages show the date 1969-12-31?

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Cunningham

Martin,

Check out ID#42947 or search in [biofuel] for acusorb and sort by ID. 
Is there a gmail glitch to the code?

Andy


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:25:08 -0500, Martin K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is the Unix date of 'epoch'
 When life began.
 No, really there is a variable in all machines that has the number of
 seconds since Jan 1, 1970. So if the data is '1969-12-31', your clock is
 set to zero. It usually gets set to zero in an email address if the
 person sending the message has an outdated email client, or an
 intermediary mail server has problems.
 
 Many times the archive [link below] cannot decipher the date from
 someone's email, but I wrote it to set the date to the current day
 instead of setting it to 1969, resulting in it being less wrong.
 --
 Martin K
 http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/
 
 bob allen wrote:
  is that date some sort of default value if a computer clock screws up?
  I see that date attached to mail to me every once in a while.
 
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