Re: [biofuel] Re: Thinking about buying a car?

2002-02-24 Thread steve spence

do you know which model had those gears?

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> Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:52:16 -0500
>From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Thinking about buying a car?
>
> I don't need a car to feed myself. I don't necessarily need a car in order
> to make money to pay anyone to feed me. I do need a truck on many occasion
> for picking up engines, building supplies, etc. It might as well be a
diesel
> so I can run it on a renewable, clean fuel I can make myself. BTW, Did you
> know the unimog was originally designed to be a tractor?
>
> http://www.webconx.com/unimog.htm
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>
>
> OKOKOKOK  so my post is a bit behind..   Alot behind...Sorry.. have
been
> busy with school and such and well, i decided to do a paper on Biodiesel
to
> inform some new people about it and how it can prove to be a good thing
for
> the future.  Anyways...  I read a post from Mr Spence about the unimog.
> Sounds like we have come full circle again?!?  I remember a time when
> Minneapolis Moline made a "tractor" that had highway road gears so you
could
> use it to drive down the road.  I have to get pictures of this thing and
set
> up a website to show you what the tractor looked like.  Its kind of
amazing
> how things go full circle sometimes.  Welp, thats my 2 cents for now..
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Re: [biofuel] Re: Thinking about buying a car

2001-12-09 Thread Mark E. Wishart

Doug, its obvious your a city person. Farmers need a truck to run to town to
buy feed and supplies, a truck to pull your livestock trailer.

This is a good reason why the independent farmers need to form a union.
With a union we could stop buying at the highest cost and sell at a lost. We
would have the support with in our union to do like OPEC, cut production and
drive up the food prices. The average American family lives paycheck to
paycheck. With just enough food in their house to last two weeks. Therefore
the farmers would get the recognition and respect they deserve.

Let the farmers of America unite.

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>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:58:48 -0800
>From: "Mark E. Wishart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Thinking about buying a car?
>
> Okay what are your suggestions?
>
> Well show me a car that I can use to do farming tasks to provide food so
you
> can eat.
> **
>
>
> That implies you have or expect to have decent farm ground to work with,
> truth is there is not enough property available to give every motorist
that
> possibility.  If the ability to do farming tasks is foremost, buy a
tractor
> and modify it for your transportation needs.
> Doug
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Re: [biofuel] RE: Thinking about buying a car?

2001-12-06 Thread Andrew Layton

>   Fiat - Nothing.

Nothing to give.


FIAT owns Case New Holland, one of the largest agricultural equipment
producers in this country.  I suppose that gives them an automatic pass on
the "investment in America" excuse.


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Re: [biofuel] RE: Thinking about buying a car?

2001-12-06 Thread Kevin Hamilton

Screw the car companies. I can't believe this message
is even posted.  I mean come on, they just jump on the
patriotic bandwagon with everyone else.

-- "Alan S. Petrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark E. Wishart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  Which Motor Co.  Cares About the USA?
> 
> Or at least who wants to look like they "care" about
> the USA.  
> 
> All of the ones that make money over here.  And it's
> the money they care
> about.  And that's especially including the Big 3!  
> 
> >   Aston Martin - Nothing.
> 
> Not suprizing.  They don't have much to contribute. 
> 
>   
> >   Audi - Nothing.  Audi's web site states "Audi
> News:
> >  Always up to the minute."
> 
> See Volkswagen, since they own Audi.  
>   
> >   BMW - Nothing despite other press
> releases/postings
> >  since 09/11/01.
> >   Last updated 09/13/01.
> 
> Hardly suprizing.  The family that owns BMW is too
> dignified to attempt
> to proffit from 9-11.  
> 
> >   Daewoo International - Nothing.
> 
> Again, they don't really have anything to give.  And
> indeed it would
> probably be Daewoo Of America doing the giving, if
> they had anything to
> give.  
>   
> >   Daimler Chrysler (includes Dodge, Jeep,
> Mercedes-Benz
> >  and Plymouth)$10 million to support the children
> and
> >  victims in addition to other donations from their
> >  employees, dealers and suppliers.
> 
> They probably took that out of petty cash.  They
> probably spend that
> much on advertizing on any given sunday during the
> football games.  And
> I'm sure it came out of the advertizing budget.  
>   
> >   Fiat - Nothing.
> 
> Nothing to give.  
>   
> >   Ford Motor Company (includes Jaguar, Lincoln,
> Mazda,
> >  Mercury and Volvo) $1 million to the American Red
> >  Cross, matching employee contributions to the
> American
> >  Red Cross and 10 Excursions to the New York Fire
> >  Department.
> >   The company has also offered emergency response
> team
> >  services and office space to displaced government
> >  employees.
> 
> Hmm...  A whole _million_ dollars.  That's probably
> what they spend on
> advertizing during a single football game.  
> 
> >   General Motors (includes Buick, Cadillac,
> Chevrolet,
> >  Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saab and Saturn) -- $1
> million to the American Red
> >  Cross, matching employee contributions and a
> fleet of
> >  vans, trucks and SUVs.
> 
> Again, a whole _million_ dollars. 
> Ooooh!  Take it out of
> petty cash!  
>   
> >   Harley-Davidson Motor Cycles - Donated one
> million
> >  dollars and 30 new motorcycles to the NYPD to
> assist
> >  in relief efforts and replace motor cycles lost
> in the
> >  attack.  Harley-Davidson's own employees drove
> the
> >  cycles to NY in a day and a half and turned over
> the
> >  keys personally to the NYC Motor Division.  Check
> out
> >  their website at www.harleydavidson.com for info
> and
> >  pictures of their generosity.
> 
> Well, as much money as HD has poured into the V-Rod,
> I'm kind of
> suprized they had anything left.  But then when
> they're selling
> motorcycles for 4 times the price of the competition
> they can afford to
> give more.  
>   
> >   Honda (includes Acura) - Nothing.
> >   "The latest news on Honda can always be found
> right
> >  here?" No press releases/postings since 9/04/01
> when
> >  the release boasted "American Honda Motor Co.,
> Inc. 
> >  recorded its second best sales month ever in
> August."
> >   My search included: hondamotorcycle.com [other
> press
> >  releases posted on this site since 9/11/01),
> >  honda.com, honda2001.com, world.honda.com,
> acura.com
> >  and honda.co.jp.
> 
> But keep in mind, Honda builds all of their US
> market cars over here. 
> Of 96% or so US parts.  In fact they build so many
> cars over here that
> they are a net exporter.  In doing this they keep
> many thousands of
> Americans employed, and add much to our economy. 
> Not to mention their
> legendary quality and reliability has dragged the
> Big 3 kicking and
> screaming into building better quality products.  If
> their multi billion
> dollar investment in the US economy doesn't say
> caring, what does?  
> 
> >   Hyundai Motors Group (includes Kia) -- $300,000
> to
> >  the American 
> >  Red Cross.
> 
> Wow.  Hyundai could actually afford to give
> something?  I'm impressed.  
> 
> >   Isuzu - Nothing.
> 
> See General Motors, since GM owns 49% of the
> company.  
>   
> >   Mitsubishi Motors - Nothing
> Mitsubishi-motors.co.jp
> >  site states, "The latest news about Mitsubishi
> >  Motors."  I also searched mitsubishimotors.com.
> 
> See Daimler-Chrysler since they own a controlling
> interest in the
> company.  
>   
> >   Nissan - Nothing despite other press
> >  releases/postings since 09/11/01.
> 
> But while you're at it, don't miss the fact that
> Nissan has been
> building vehicles in the US since 1960, and in fact
> build all of their
> US market vehicles in 4 plants in Tennessee.  Thus
> keeping thousands of
> Ameri