Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
I did read one study somewhere along the line that suggested damage to the rubber was not nearly what they anticipated, based on the research of others that the investigators had read before they began. Perhaps they were using properly neutralised and washed biodiesel and/or two stage method. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc After researching both methods(Mike's Two stage), I decided to try the two stage method. I plan on using the biod in a Mercedes. Am concerned about damage to the rubber hoses and had talked with someone who is using biod in a Mercedes today. His comment was that by switching to the two stage method, the damage to the rubber was nil. Appears that the rubber damage is due to the methanol and that by removing it in the drying process it eliminates the rubber damage. Comments? JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980788069/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
PLEASE DO NOT E-MAIL ME ANYMORE NBT - E. Beggs wrote: I did read one study somewhere along the line that suggested damage to the rubber was not nearly what they anticipated, based on the research of others that the investigators had read before they began. Perhaps they were using properly neutralised and washed biodiesel and/or two stage method. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc After researching both methods(Mike's Two stage), I decided to try the two stage method. I plan on using the biod in a Mercedes. Am concerned about damage to the rubber hoses and had talked with someone who is using biod in a Mercedes today. His comment was that by switching to the two stage method, the damage to the rubber was nil. Appears that the rubber damage is due to the methanol and that by removing it in the drying process it eliminates the rubber damage. Comments? JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980793161/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
I would suggest, Connie, that you remove yourself from the newsgroup, and not subscribe to any new ones until you figure out that no one emailed you. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax It is not money or dreams that will sustain you, but practical knowledge about the basic systems that sustain you. -- - Original Message - From: CONNIE LEJEUNE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc PLEASE DO NOT E-MAIL ME ANYMORE NBT - E. Beggs wrote: I did read one study somewhere along the line that suggested damage to the rubber was not nearly what they anticipated, based on the research of others that the investigators had read before they began. Perhaps they were using properly neutralised and washed biodiesel and/or two stage method. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc After researching both methods(Mike's Two stage), I decided to try the two stage method. I plan on using the biod in a Mercedes. Am concerned about damage to the rubber hoses and had talked with someone who is using biod in a Mercedes today. His comment was that by switching to the two stage method, the damage to the rubber was nil. Appears that the rubber damage is due to the methanol and that by removing it in the drying process it eliminates the rubber damage. Comments? JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980793900/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: CONNIE LEJEUNE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc PLEASE DO NOT E-MAIL ME ANYMORE NBT - E. Beggs wrote: I did read one study somewhere along the line that suggested damage to the rubber was not nearly what they anticipated, based on the research of others that the investigators had read before they began. Perhaps they were using properly neutralised and washed biodiesel and/or two stage method. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc After researching both methods(Mike's Two stage), I decided to try the two stage method. I plan on using the biod in a Mercedes. Am concerned about damage to the rubber hoses and had talked with someone who is using biod in a Mercedes today. His comment was that by switching to the two stage method, the damage to the rubber was nil. Appears that the rubber damage is due to the methanol and that by removing it in the drying process it eliminates the rubber damage. Comments? JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980794828/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
All post-1990 Mercs should be biodiesel-proof Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980796369/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
Look at www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk/challenge.htm They hit you harder if you use homebrew ethanol - otherwise known as poteen, taxed at about £18 a litre Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980796598/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
OK - it did when I tried it! Mind you, I did light the lamp Will try again and see what happens Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980796962/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
-Original Message- From: biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 29 January 2001 4:05 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc Hi Terry, You mention Custom and excise in relation to Kero . What is the situation in UK with BioD and the money hungry gents.? And what would the situation be if you used home made ethonol instead of kero to cut your petrol - a far safer alternative. Thanks John Oh dear - here we go! Snipp 5. Mixing kero with your petrol may seem like a good idea, until such times as either (a) Customs Excise catch on, or (b) your piston rings seize up with the carbon residue. Seems a shame, for the sake of a few pence a litre. Snip Terry (UK) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980778405/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc
In Australia our usual brake fluid(Grade 3 Super D.O.T.4) SAE j1703 is definitely not a mineral oil and should not be contaminated with mineral oils or used in brake systems requiring mineral oils. Mineral oils will ruin rubber brake parts quick smart but we can wash them in methanol or ethanol. I don't advocate using bioD in brakes here because the boiling point is a bit low BUT MINERAL OIL BRAKE FLUID IS NOT THE NORM WORLD WIDE. Regards John -Original Message- From: biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 29 January 2001 4:05 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel/brake fluid etc Oh dear - here we go! Snip 2. Once upon a time, there were two types of brake fluid - one mineral and one vegetable. The two were not compatible, as the mineral oil used rubber grommets and the vegetable one used man-made ones. Now there is one - mineral. Ergo, using biodiesel - a vegetable oil - in a braking system could cause the system to fail. You have been warned. Snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980780046/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
