Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol

2001-06-08 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE





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Subject:  Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol




Denatured means adding methanol to ethanol (10% I think) thus rendering it
undrinkable. I don't know if it is anhydrous. But if not sealed tightly it
becomes hydrous quickly (EtOH being very hygroscopic as is Sodium
Hydroxide).Denatured alcohol would be okay to use because it is both kinds of
alcohol, but you will have to account for the less EtOH in the mixture when
using the ethyl esther formula. It will produce both methyl and ethyl esthers.
Joe

denatured. is that 200 proof, and does the denaturing agent affect biodiesel
production?

Steve Spence
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are
 we
  bothering with methanol?  I find myself learning with methanol and
 then
  having to switch to ethanol for environmental advantage.
  
  Mike B
 
  Cost, cost, cost. I pay $3.00 a gallon for methanol in small
 quantities,
  others are paying much less. I can't even make my own anhydrous
  ethanol for less than $10 a gallon, and buying it from a commercial
  producer puts you over $50 a gallon with all the tax.
-K


 That's odd.  Where do you live?  I can buy denatured ethanol at my
 local hardware store for about $7 a gallon (?) I think (I'm trying to
 remember the exact price).  There is no liquor tax on denatured
 ethanol, since you can't drink it.

 David


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Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol

2001-06-07 Thread steve spence

denatured. is that 200 proof, and does the denaturing agent affect biodiesel
production?

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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:22 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are
 we
  bothering with methanol?  I find myself learning with methanol and
 then
  having to switch to ethanol for environmental advantage.
  
  Mike B
 
  Cost, cost, cost. I pay $3.00 a gallon for methanol in small
 quantities,
  others are paying much less. I can't even make my own anhydrous
  ethanol for less than $10 a gallon, and buying it from a commercial
  producer puts you over $50 a gallon with all the tax.
-K


 That's odd.  Where do you live?  I can buy denatured ethanol at my
 local hardware store for about $7 a gallon (?) I think (I'm trying to
 remember the exact price).  There is no liquor tax on denatured
 ethanol, since you can't drink it.

 David


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