generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all
The same thing bothers me about ALL Americans _ I don't care if the subject someone is writing about is on topic, they shouldn't include generalizations either way. 1. SUVs do not project the beliefs of all Americans. 2. Just because some/most/all of spam comes from the US does not mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. 3. Just because Bush wants to go to war and some people support him doesn't mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. If a person wants to make a political statement: FINE. But do NOT make sweeping generalizations that serve no purpose. 96.5% of people agree with me on this. Do your research if you want to say something offensive. Thank you, that was me venting for the year. --- Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:59 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- DVD Rentals with No Late Fees - Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/abvVKB/pEZFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all
Whew!!! Well, I guess we should just all be thankful we weren't born with red hair, black skin, Jewish, Hispanic, Polish, Armenian, blonde, Native American, Italian, Iranian, Scandanavian or anything else.you know they're all alike. - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all The same thing bothers me about ALL Americans _ I don't care if the subject someone is writing about is on topic, they shouldn't include generalizations either way. 1. SUVs do not project the beliefs of all Americans. 2. Just because some/most/all of spam comes from the US does not mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. 3. Just because Bush wants to go to war and some people support him doesn't mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. If a person wants to make a political statement: FINE. But do NOT make sweeping generalizations that serve no purpose. 96.5% of people agree with me on this. Do your research if you want to say something offensive. Thank you, that was me venting for the year. --- Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:59 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all
At 11:06 PM 2/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: Well, I guess we should just all be thankful we weren't born with red hair, black skin, Jewish, Hispanic, Polish, Armenian, blonde, Native American, Italian, Iranian, Scandanavian or anything else.you know they're all alike. Yeah, we are all alike! :-) - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all The same thing bothers me about ALL Americans _ I don't care if the subject someone is writing about is on topic, they shouldn't include generalizations either way. 1. SUVs do not project the beliefs of all Americans. 2. Just because some/most/all of spam comes from the US does not mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. 3. Just because Bush wants to go to war and some people support him doesn't mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. If a person wants to make a political statement: FINE. But do NOT make sweeping generalizations that serve no purpose. 96.5% of people agree with me on this. Do your research if you want to say something offensive. Thank you, that was me venting for the year. --- Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:59 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all
Whew!!! Well, I guess we should just all be thankful we weren't born with red hair, black skin, Jewish, Hispanic, Polish, Armenian, blonde, Native American, Italian, Iranian, Scandanavian or anything else.you know they're all alike. I don't think so cuz somes got hair an some don't. Somes young and others ain't. Somes walk others bike or use public transportation. Frankly, I think its the economy stu*** or that there Stu***UV business tax break. In fact, somes got more money to burn then cents or maybe they just needs one cuz they gots their reasons. __ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- DVD Rentals with No Late Fees - Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/abvVKB/pEZFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: generalizations RE: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all
The same thing bothers me about ALL Americans _ I don't care if the subject someone is writing about is on topic, they shouldn't include generalizations either way. But has anybody done that? I don't think anybody said that. I think people - the list, members, us, whatever - were accused of saying it, but I don't think it happened. Ed's message was satirical, and it did not include the word all, as Curtis claims. Take your own advice Martin, check it out. What I've noticed from the non-Americans here posting on these issues, including myself, is a lot of concern NOT to say ALL Americans, and to explain why not. Worldwide, it's very noticeable that in practice people distinguish between America (the government and its foreign and domestic policies - Washington) and Americans - even when people have suffered as a result of US action they generally like and welcome individual Americans. Like this, from a US diplomat stationed in Athens: Even here in Greece, purported hotbed of European anti-Americanism, we have more and closer friends than the American newspaper reader can possibly imagine. Even when they complain about American arrogance, Greeks know that the world is a difficult and dangerous place, and they want a strong international system, with the U.S. and EU in close partnership. From: U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/international/27WEB-TNAT.html?ex=104 7447483ei=1en=c49116966b23e15e So no sweeping generalizations. But it's nonetheless true to say that Americans are only 4% of the world's population but they use 25% of the world's energy and generate more than 33% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions. BUT, when I say things like that (many others do too, including Americans) I usually include the other OECD countries - Australia comes pretty close, the rest (France, Germany, Japan) use about half the amount of energy per capita that Americans do, for the same per capita productivity, but that's still WAY too much, wildly more than their equitable share. These are not sweeping statements. 1. SUVs do not project the beliefs of all Americans. 2. Just because some/most/all of spam comes from the US does not mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. 3. Just because Bush wants to go to war and some people support him doesn't mean it projects the beliefs of all Americans. Quite right - but I don't think anyone has claimed or would claim otherwise. If a person wants to make a political statement: FINE. But do NOT make sweeping generalizations that serve no purpose. 96.5% of people agree with me on this. Do your research if you want to say something offensive. Thank you, that was me venting for the year. Damn, Martin, don't be so rough on yourself - it's only March! Best Keith --- Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:59 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
