Re: [svg-developers] Re: XForms in standalone SVG

2005-06-10 Thread Holger Will
Alastair schrieb:

   plus maybe you dont know the spark project allready, there is supposed
   to be a nice textbox there: http://spark.sourceforge.net/

 Hi Holger,

 Haven't had a chance to release my text input yet.  Its a 1 line text
 input with that conforms to the SPARK framework, sitting at 90%
 complete - just need to find some time to finish that extra 10%.  I
 also do have a multi-line textbox in the works that conforms to the
 framework as well.  Hopefully I'll have time to finish it before the
 svg open for Chris Lewis to show off.

 Cheers,
 Alastair

to bad, i was sure i have seen a textbox in one of the spark examples... 
anyways,  i hope you ll find the time.
spark is a great project, i hope to find the time to investigate deeper 
into the framework.
keep up the great work

cheers
Holger




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Re: [svg-developers] Re: XForms in standalone SVG

2005-06-10 Thread Holger Will
Hi Steve

 I had seen your simple XSLT based input box but not your others, the ASV6
 one is great, I can not wait for ASV6 to be in production release 
 (whenever
 that happens!?!!??!)

i guess we have to wait for 1.2 full to become a recomendation... i 
would be happy if mozilla gets better text support, so i could get the 
textbox to run there.

 so I can implement it in my app, until then I will look
 into using your ASV3 version I think,  I had a look on your site but 
 found
 no links to those textboxes...is that on purpose?

just click on the history 01 link on the main page:
http://www.treebuilder.de/default.asp?file=history01.xmltype=html

ok i know my site really needs a rebuild, i ve some prototypes for my 
new pages, but its all not done yet, though everything is better then 
the current version.

 I had seen Jan's before,
 but had not tried to integrate it, perhaps I will make a more concerted
 effort as it seems to have the functionality I need with respect to
 hightlighting text and keyboard interaction (similar to your ASV6 text 
 box),
 the reason I did not persue it last time I saw it is because I could 
 not get
 my head around the complexities of how he handles his classes, modules
 prototypes,  handles exceptions etc... it all seemed very complicated, 
 but
 as I said, perhaps I just need to nut it out.

well if you are not afraid of some scripting, you could as well just 
write your own textbox. the key to text selection is:
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/text.html#InterfaceSVGTextContentElement

cheers
Holger






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Re: [svg-developers] Re: sXBL, loading using JavaScript

2005-06-10 Thread Holger Will
goku5z schrieb:

 I checked Mozilla XBL documentation, and it seems that all the
 definitions are loaded into a DocumentXBL. A template should be
 copied from this docmnt and attached to the custom element. The
 DocmntXBL could be created/modified programatically, but it doesn't
 get much into detail.(and may also differ from the sXBL version) 

the main difference between mozilla XBL  and sXBL , here is , that in 
mozilla , you attach  a binding to a custom element by CSS or javascript.
as far as i understand in sXBL there are no such mechanisms. i agree 
that it would be nice if there were a way to attach a binding via script.

i see one problem with the current proposal, if the only way to attach a 
binding, is by QName matching.

suppose you have these custom elements, and a binding, that renders a 
bar chart from this data. you also have a binding that renders a pie chart.
valueList
 value10/value
 value20/value
/valueList
now suppose you have a few valueLists  in your document, and you want 
the user to change  the appearence of every single  valueList individualy.
in mozilla, you could use javascript to change the binding for each 
valueList , or use combination of CSS-selectors to do so ( as i do in 
this example: http://www.treebuilder.de/svg/xbl/pieChart.xml  )
i wonder how i would do something like that in sXBL. maybe i miss 
something in the spec though.


 I suposse the only way I can find out is by asking the authors.
 Anyway, I appreciate your help -you were the only one to reply.

 cheers,
 David. 

 

cheers
Holger


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Re: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

2005-06-10 Thread Hago Ziegler
Now it works - thanks to both of you.

But: now it runs in the other direction.
How can I control the direction, in which the snake moves?

Hago



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Re: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

2005-06-10 Thread Andre M. Winter - Carto.net
not shure, try to return the path description the other way round.

andré



Now it works - thanks to both of you.

But: now it runs in the other direction.
How can I control the direction, in which the snake moves?

Hago



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Re: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

2005-06-10 Thread Holger Will
Hago Ziegler schrieb:

Now it works - thanks to both of you.

But: now it runs in the other direction.
How can I control the direction, in which the snake moves?

Hago
  

yes what Andé  said should work. or you can just animate to -trackLength.

busTrackAnim.setAttribute('to',-trackLength);

cheers
Holger



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RE: [svg-developers] Re: sXBL, loading using JavaScript

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Schonefeld
Hi Holger,

If you use a handler on the xbl:bound event for a particular binding, don't
you (as the binding's developer) have script access to the the custom
content and also full control of relevant shadow tree? So the document
author need only write:

valueList chartType=bar
value10/value
value20/value
/valueList

or

valueList chartType=pie
value10/value
value20/value
/valueList

I'm thinking that, if the idea of sXBL is to make it simple for the author
to include potentially complex content into a document, then as a general
rule the less exposure they have to script the better.

...meanwhile the code junkies are having more than their share of fun behind
the scenes!

What do you think?

Pete

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Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: sXBL, loading using JavaScript


suppose you have these custom elements, and a binding, that renders a
bar chart from this data. you also have a binding that renders a pie chart.
valueList
value10/value
value20/value
/valueList
now suppose you have a few valueLists  in your document, and you want
the user to change  the appearence of every single  valueList individualy.
in mozilla, you could use javascript to change the binding for each
valueList , or use combination of CSS-selectors to do so ( as i do in
this example: http://www.treebuilder.de/svg/xbl/pieChart.xml  )
i wonder how i would do something like that in sXBL. maybe i miss
something in the spec though.




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RE: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

2005-06-10 Thread Bob Hunter
I use this animated stroke-dasharray in my application as well.  Some of the
paths animate forward and some animate in reverse.  

I haven't had time to figure out exactly what causes it to go one direction
for one line and the opposite direction for another line.  At one time I
thought it had to do which which end of the line was closest to the upper
left corner of the SVG.  

Since I add the animations through javascript, it would be helpful to know
what causes this.  Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Bob




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Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

Hago Ziegler schrieb:

Now it works - thanks to both of you.

But: now it runs in the other direction.
How can I control the direction, in which the snake moves?

Hago
  

yes what Andé  said should work. or you can just animate to -trackLength.

busTrackAnim.setAttribute('to',-trackLength);

cheers
Holger



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Re: [svg-developers] looking for stroke and fill colors of a ShapeNode

2005-06-10 Thread Cameron McCormack
Hi Sylvain.

Sylvain Caillet:
 So i do :
 I first get the GraphicsNodew which is in fact a RootGraphicsNode.
 It has one children : a CanvasGraphicsNode.
 Which has many children which are ShapeNode.
 For each ShapeNode, i can get datas such as :
 - the composite,
 - the rendering hints
 - the Java2D Shape object (Ellipse2D, ExtendedGeneralPath, ...)
 I have also founded a ShapePainter which seems to be interesting for
 me because it contains a Paint object (and a Stroke) but it is a
 protected attribute without any accessor.

 So please, could you tell me where i can find stroke informations
 (style, color) and fill informations (color) for each ShapeNode ?

Well you are right, the ShapePainter returned by
ShapeNode.getShapePainter() contains the stroking and filling
information.  If the ShapeNode is to be filled, it will be a
FillShapePainter.  If the ShapeNode is to be stroked, it will be a
StrokeShapePainter.  And if it has a fill and a stroke, then it will be
a CompositeShapePainter from which you can get the FillShapePainter and
StrokeShapePainter.

The only problem is that these ShapePainter objects don't provide
accessor methods to get the java.awt.Paint object used for the filling
or stroking.  So without any modifications to Batik, you're out of luck.

Why do you need to get this information out of the GVT objects?

Cameron

PS: Since this is quite Batik specific, you might like to post to the
Batik mailing lists: http://xml.apache.org/batik/mailList.html

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: sXBL, loading using JavaScript

2005-06-10 Thread Holger Will
Peter Schonefeld schrieb:

 Hi Holger,

 If you use a handler on the xbl:bound event for a particular binding, 
 don't
 you (as the binding's developer) have script access to the the custom
 content and also full control of relevant shadow tree? So the document
 author need only write:

 valueList chartType=bar
 value10/value
 value20/value
 /valueList

 or

 valueList chartType=pie
 value10/value
 value20/value
 /valueList


true, but in mozilla if i want to extent this model to say 100 
chartTypes, i just have 100 bindings, which are far more easy to 
maintain than one binding with 100 cases,
not to mention that if i only use one chartType in a document, i still 
load all 100 bindings, whereas in mozilla, just the used binding will be 
loaded.
a solution avoiding binding via script, would be to allow CSS Selectors 
or XPath on definition-elements  element Attribute.
so i could do something like this:

   xbl:xbl
xbl:definition element=/*//[EMAIL PROTECTED]'bar']
 xbl:template
  !-- svg elements making up a bar Chart --
 /xbl:template
xbl:/definition
xbl:definition element=/*//[EMAIL PROTECTED]'pie']
 xbl:template
  !-- svg elements making up a bar Chart --
 /xbl:template
xbl:/definition
   /xbl:xbl


i think this could be a solution to the dilema:

bar
valueList
value10/value
value20/value
/valueList
/bar
pie
valueList
value10/value
value20/value
/valueList
/pie

so if i want the bar chart to be a pie chart, i can just create a new 
pie, append the bar elements valueList, and delete the original bar element,
but still this is a lot of work compared to  a simple
 valueList.setAttribute(chartType,pie)

i hope this makes sense
cheers
Holger


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2005-06-10 Thread mimasa
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RE: [svg-developers] Help

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Birbeck
Hi Reach...

Some of the issues you raise are outside of the scope of SVG, so I'll
comment on those. Perhaps others will chime in on the SVG-specific
questions.

My solution would be to put the SVG inside an XHTML page, which can then be
used in Opera, FireFox and our Sidewinder Viewer. Even better, use XForms,
and keep the SVG in the XBL files--using Sidewinder (and I think, FireFox).

Although I would suggest this architecture, even if you were just doing
buttons, the main features you need that make this the best solution are
kiosk mode and closing the form.


 I need help with a quick proof of concept involving SVG. I 
 want some experts ou there to tell me if it can be done or 
 not(if not what features cannot be done...) SVG needs to 
 
 - The SVG needs run in a kiosk/Full screen mode taking over 
 the complete desktop

Our Sidewinder Viewer could do that, and so can Opera. In Sidewinder running
in standalone mode you indicate the dimensions of your window in the meta
tags of your XHTML document, with * meaning the entire width or height. In
Opera you use command line options. (I'm guessing FireFox will have
something too, but I don't know.)


 - The screen has gradients need to be maintained

I don't know what that means. If it's to do with the general appearance of
your form in the screenshot then I'd SVG can easily do it.


 - The SVG code needs to render/draw all the curves on the 
 corners and the shapes of the buttons.
 - On mouse over the close button should display a pressed 
 look.

In terms of SVG's capabilities this is of course possible. In terms of how
to do it, you can either code it in SVG directly (or use one of the UI
libraries), or re-skin some XForms with XBL.

On the latter see the recent demo I posted that extends our Google Desktop
Search sample with XBL. The buttons have the following features:

  * rounded buttons;
  * a filter with gradient fill;
  * an animation triggered on ::hover;
  * text colour changes triggered on mouse-click.

Obviously you could invoke any changes to the SVG you like.

 On clicked should close the web page

I don't believe SVG supports this, but it's another reason for putting the
SVG into XHTML, since you can use the HTML close method. Also, XForms 1.1
has a 'close' event, so you could do this declaratively in Sidewinder.


 I have uploaded the screenshot in the files section.

Looks pretty straightforward to me!

Regards,

Mark


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[svg-developers] how to implement Font-variant attribute for SVGT

2005-06-10 Thread T.Arun Chakaravarthy
Hi All,

I am doing SVGT 1.2 Viewer ...
I have to do font: font Variant .
I want to know what r the conditions to be taken in account for 
implementing font variant attribute


Please help me...


With Thanks and Regards
Arun AC




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2005-06-10 Thread binshadaad
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Re: [svg-developers] Line moving on a path

2005-06-10 Thread Hago Ziegler
Bob Hunter schrieb:

 Since I add the animations through javascript, it would be helpful to  
 know
 what causes this.

This afternoon I tested what Holger and André wrote:

busTrackAnim.setAttribute('to',trackLength); makes it go clockwise, and
busTrackAnim.setAttribute('to',-trackLength); the other way.

If I change the direction of the path, also the animation changes its
moving direction.

Hago


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[svg-developers] SVG compatibility and roadmap ? is is supported by IE?

2005-06-10 Thread himanshukhurana10
Hi all,
I wanted to know the following:
1: Is SVG supported in IE,Netscape,Opera or Firefox/Mozzila?
2:  When should one expect these browsers to be SVG compliant
3: What is the other best way to view SVG files if  not suported by
the browser?

Thanks
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[svg-developers] Re: SVG compatibility and roadmap ? is is supported by IE?

2005-06-10 Thread skatethere
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, himanshukhurana10
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I wanted to know the following:
 1: Is SVG supported in IE,Netscape,Opera or Firefox/Mozzila?

No, No, Not yet, Partially.

 2:  When should one expect these browsers to be SVG compliant

Not soon, if ever, depending on what version and profile of the spec
you care about. Mozilla (and in the next release Firefox) have native
support for significant portions of 1.0 and some of 1.1 (including a
fair amount of DOM and static SVG, but lacking for instance filters
and animation). I hear Opera is working on the 1.1 spec as well. 1.2
is not yet finalized, so little has been done on that. Netscape will
probably adopt the Mozilla SVG branch eventually, and there's no
indication IE will ever support SVG natively. Safari is allegedly
going to have SVG support in a future release.

 3: What is the other best way to view SVG files if  not suported by
 the browser?

Well, if not supported by the browser, the *only* other way is via
plugin (or external application, if that's your thing). Adobe SVG
Viewer (ASV) has not had a major release in years; the current
version, 3.01, supports only v1.0 of the spec. It's rumored that they
are awaiting the release of v1.2 (if that ever happens) before
finalizing a new version (the beta of which has been available for
years as well). The Corel plugin is dead, AFAIK. I'm not aware of
other plugins, although other viewers (such as from BATIK) are
available.

  --kirby




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[svg-developers] getting data from XML document

2005-06-10 Thread maria ulfa
hi,
 
i want to call some data in GML from an object with the same id in SVG, i tried 
to use DOM, but it didn't work.
Can't DOM be used to read XML data from another XML document?
 
how can we call an element with a specified attribute. i can't use 
xmlDoc.selectNodes(XPath pattern) with Javascript and i can't find 
another way.
 
i  really need your help.
thanks for the attention,



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RE: [svg-developers] Re: sXBL, loading using JavaScript

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Schonefeld
Hi Holger, From your example I can see that the XPath expression becomes
very useful. I wonder why it is missing??

Pete



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a solution avoiding binding via script, would be to allow CSS Selectors
or XPath on definition-elements  element Attribute.
so i could do something like this:

   xbl:xbl
xbl:definition element=/*//[EMAIL PROTECTED]'bar']
 xbl:template
  !-- svg elements making up a bar Chart --
 /xbl:template
xbl:/definition
xbl:definition element=/*//[EMAIL PROTECTED]'pie']
 xbl:template
  !-- svg elements making up a bar Chart --
 /xbl:template
xbl:/definition
   /xbl:xbl




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