date:20050811

Re: [svg-developers] Let's make some income from SVG

2005-08-11 Thread Jonathan Watt

On 8/11/05, Doug Schepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Francis-
> 
> While I'm not driving a Mercedes (or even a Prius, which I'd prefer), I am
> making money using SVG (as well as other technologies). In my opinion, the
> key is twofold:
> 1) Realize where SVG is the best solution (there are many places it's not);
> 2) Use SVG in concert with other technologies, as was meant to be done;
> 3) [bonus fold] Find a need, and fill that need, with SVG if appropriate.
> 
> SVG is not an end-all-be-all solution, but it is appropriate in many places.
> Personally, I think that pushing browser vendors to adopt SVG (natively, if
> possible) and supporting those efforts (donating time or money to efforts
> like MozSVG,

Hey, I like that. That's a great idea. Donate and save me from working
in a supermarket to pay my rent. :-)


> rewarding vendors by buying products that use SVG), especially
> when they lead to true inline, multi-namespace environments.
> 
> I also think that this list is not the place to do evangelizing pro or con
> SVG. Why would, for instance, Microsoft be monitoring this list.
> Implementors who are supporting SVG are already supporting SVG. You're
> preaching to the choir here... Find companies that aren't supporting SVG who
> should be, and start an email campaign to convince them.
> 
> Francis Hemsher wrote:
> |
> | Gad, is anyone driving a Mercedes and has a monied life style
> | because they are with SVG? I know all of the SVG visionaries
> | are totally un- paid for their efforts, believe it or not,
> | including Adobe.
> 
> That's not true. Adobe makes money selling, for instance, Illustrator and
> Adobe Graphics Server, both of which have SVG as part of their output.
> 
> You are looking to make money from SVG, and I think that's great. A rising
> tide raises all ships. But if you're only advertising on svg-dev, you need
> to fire your marketing guy. Aim your sights on a vertical who needs a
> graphics solution, and start demoing your cool tech to them.
> 
> 
> | If we continue to give away efforts for free, then, in the
> | business world, we are considered prostitutes.
> 
> Hey, check your hyperbolemeter... I think you might have it set a bit high.
> 
> 
> | Set your sites on making an honest return on your
> | efforts..Charge $325/hour for your time for anyone that needs
> | your input.
> 
> Amen! Don't tell anyone anything unless they pay you. That's sure to spread
> adoption. (BTW, Francis, you own me $325 for looking at your site.)
> 
> I'm not saying that we shouldn't be paid. But when I have time, I'm happy to
> help out people on this list, or on IRC (freenode#svg), or by helping with
> the SVG Wiki. Without a community of developers, SVG would really be dead.
> And not fun. And not profitable.
> 
> 
> Regards-
> Doug
> 
> doug . schepers  @ vectoreal.com
> www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions.


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RE: [svg-developers] Re: Mobius portal?

2005-08-11 Thread Barend Köbben

OK, so I checked with IE6+ASV3, the still only got  a title and an email link...


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> From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis Hemsher
> Sent: Friday, 12 August 2005 04:33
> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Mobius portal?
> 
> Barend,
> I would just love to embrace all browsers and operating systems with 
> MobiusPortal. However, it is impossible, and I must keep my sanity!
> MobiusPortal will only function with IE5.5+ and the ASV3 viewer.
> That represent about 90% of the viewing public. I will not design 
> programs to cater to the lowest common denominator, and the 
> continually changing browser environments. 
> 
> Sorry Puppy,
> 
> Francis
> 
> 
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Hello Francis,
> > 
> > It seems on my WIndows box using Firefox, the link 
> www.MobiusPortal.com goes to a page 
> http://www.mobiusportal.com/ie.html [sic!] that has nothing on it 
> but a title and an email link...?
> > 
> > 
> > Barend Köbben
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> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2005 02:47
> > > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [svg-developers] Re: 31 SVG Drawing programs: the 
> > > 32nd Program
> > > 
> > > Hi Ed,
> > > 
> > >  You did great job in compiling the list.
> > > We're a newcomer on the scene. But, if you want to see the 
> > > possibilities of real-time gaming on line, then take a look at:
> > > www.MobiusPortal.com
> > > We are seeking beta users that can demonstrate real-time 
> dyanamic 
> > > use of SVG. We would be most happy to work with anyone that 
> wants to 
> > > create in a real-time grapic game environment.
> > > 
> > > Francis
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "xeipon2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I compiled a list of Vector drawing programs as a part of a
> > > > column I wrote for maa.org:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.maa.org/editorial/mathgames/mathgames_08_01_05.html
> > > > 
> > > > Of these 65 programs I've listed, 31 of them support SVG.  Of
> > > > these, 14 of them are free.
> > > > 
> > > > The next step would be to evaluate each of these to see how
> > > > clean their code is, whether they actually work well with a
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[svg-developers] SVG Developers: $500,000 per year salary

2005-08-11 Thread Francis Hemsher

I must tell you that I want to gather the best SVG talent there is, to 
be with MobiusPortal. We are currently in the raggedy-assed-ranger beta 
stage.
But this will evolve, within 6 months, to be a powerful SVG site. I 
will compensate well those that will join MP after beta. Polish your 
resumes..I want you.

Francis
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[svg-developers] Re: Animated Line Drawing?

2005-08-11 Thread acielto

Thanks, everyone, for responding, I will follow you suggestions and
let you know how it went...

AC

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> http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/animated_bustrack.shtml 
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> http://pilat.free.fr/english/animer/france.htm 
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[svg-developers] Re: Let's make some income from SVG

2005-08-11 Thread Francis Hemsher

If you work 40-60 hours a week on SVG, then, when MP get's launched 
you've got a job, and the Mercedes...no kidding.
Francis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Alastair Fettes" 
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> Hi Francis,
> 
> My job is 100% SVG research and I get paid quite well for it.  I 
live
> and breath SVG for 40-60 hours a week, each and every week.   I may
> not be driving a Mercedes (yet) but take into account that I 
graduated
> in April.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alastair
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Francis Hemsher"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Gad, is anyone driving a Mercedes and has a monied life style 
because 
> > they are with SVG? I know all of the SVG visionaries are totally 
un-
> > paid for their efforts, believe it or not, including Adobe.
> > 
> > If we continue to give away efforts for free, then,
> > in the business world, we are considered prostitutes.
> > 
> > Set your sites on making an honest return on your 
efforts..Charge 
> > $325/hour for your time for anyone that needs your input.
> > 
> > Francis

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[svg-developers] Re: Let's make some income from SVG

2005-08-11 Thread Francis Hemsher

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> SVG. Why would, for instance, Microsoft be monitoring this list.

Doug,

I'll bet you a bucket of oranges, MS is, in fact, monitoring this list.
I have stats that show the MS light-fantastic when they are mentioned.

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[svg-developers] Re: Mobius portal?

2005-08-11 Thread Francis Hemsher

Barend,
I would just love to embrace all browsers and operating systems with 
MobiusPortal. However, it is impossible, and I must keep my sanity!
MobiusPortal will only function with IE5.5+ and the ASV3 viewer.
That represent about 90% of the viewing public. I will not design 
programs to cater to the lowest common denominator, and the 
continually changing browser environments. 

Sorry Puppy,

Francis



--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Barend Köbben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Hello Francis,
> 
> It seems on my WIndows box using Firefox, the link 
www.MobiusPortal.com goes to a page 
http://www.mobiusportal.com/ie.html [sic!] that has nothing on it 
but a title and an email link...?
> 
> 
> Barend Köbben
> International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth 
Observation (ITC)
> PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands)
> ph: +31 (0)53 4874253; fax: +31 (0)53 4874335 
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>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis 
Hemsher
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2005 02:47
> > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [svg-developers] Re: 31 SVG Drawing programs: the 
> > 32nd Program
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> >  You did great job in compiling the list.
> > We're a newcomer on the scene. But, if you want to see the 
> > possibilities of real-time gaming on line, then take a look at:
> > www.MobiusPortal.com
> > We are seeking beta users that can demonstrate real-time 
dyanamic 
> > use of SVG. We would be most happy to work with anyone that 
wants to 
> > create in a real-time grapic game environment.
> > 
> > Francis
> > 
> > 
> > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "xeipon2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I compiled a list of Vector drawing programs as a part of a
> > > column I wrote for maa.org:
> > > 
> > > http://www.maa.org/editorial/mathgames/mathgames_08_01_05.html
> > > 
> > > Of these 65 programs I've listed, 31 of them support SVG.  Of
> > > these, 14 of them are free.
> > > 
> > > The next step would be to evaluate each of these to see how
> > > clean their code is, whether they actually work well with a
> > > variety of SVG tasks, an so on.
> > > 
> > > Ed Pegg Jr
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RE: [svg-developers] Problem Internet Explorer: Download archive JSP contend a SVG???

2005-08-11 Thread Marco Mazzeschi

Just try: http://localhost:8080/svg/test.jsp?dummy=.svg

It seems that contentType="image/svg+xml" is not enough for IE.

Marco



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Subject: [svg-developers] Problem Internet Explorer: Download archive JSP
contend a SVG???


Hi all.
I am with a problem to develop SVG using server side in JSP.
My archive test.jsp contains the code:

<%@ page contentType="image/svg+xml" %>

JSP @ SVG 


My test in the browser Internet Explorer http://localhost:8080/svg/test.jsp,
when access this address, a message appears "making download of the archive
test.jsp Open Save Cancel?", I do not obtain to visualize the
archive.

You can help me?

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For the good operation of this application, it is necessary to have
installed in yours computer the plug-in Adobe SVG Viewer (Para o bom
funcionamento deste aplicativo, é necessário ter instalado em seu computador
o plug-in Adobe SVG Viewer).

Português:
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[svg-developers] compute width and height of browser window

2005-08-11 Thread sent1729

Hi everybody,

In internet explorer I am could use window.innerWidth and 
window.innerHeight to obtain the width and height of browser window. I 
could not use the same command (it says "undefined") in Batik Squiggle 
to get the width and height parameters of the batik browser window. Is 
there a way to retrieve the width and height parameters of the browser 
in batik squiggle.

Thanks in advance for any input

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[svg-developers] thanks!

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[svg-developers] Re: CGUI window

2005-08-11 Thread Alastair Fettes

Hi Bazus,

http://spark.sourceforge.net/resources/samples/afettes/demo2/window.svg

Though send the spark email list an message to ask Christopher Lewis
if he's ported his CGUI window to the SPARK framework yet.

Cheers,
Alastair

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Marÿffeda
Bazus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have developed a SVG Interactive Application for a
> bus company. But now i have a problem, because i have
> to fit the Svg Diagram to the Browser size but the
> diagram is widder and higher, i have seen that there
> is a possibility using the CGUI widget window, i would
> like to put my diagram (that is generated dinamically)
> inside a window (or a frame) then i would have my
> diagram scollable because  the window objet has
> scrollbars and fit the window to the browser size.
> 
> I try to so that:
> var wagens_window = new Window(66,110,1318,722);
> wagens_window.setAnchor(SVGDiagram, "right", -10,
> "top", 10);
> wagens_window.addToParent(SVGDiagram);
> wagens_window.createControls( ControlBox.SCROLLV_CTRLS
> | ControlBox.SCROLLH_CTRLS);
>  
> And also with a frame window: 
> var ctrl_opts = ControlBox.SCROLLV_CTRLS |
> ControlBox.SCROLLH_CTRLS;
> var main_menu = null;
> main_frame = new Frame (
>  66,110,1318,722
>  , null,
>  false, null, ctrl_opts, false, true,
> false, main_menu
>);
> 
> main_frame.addToParent(SVGDocument);
> 
> 
> Does anybody have done something like that? i have
> tried it but it doesn't work because i dont know
> exactly what i have to do. Does anybody know any
> examples???
> 
> 
> 
>  --- Alastair Fettes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> 
> 
> -
> Hi Francis,
> 
> My job is 100% SVG research and I get paid quite well
> for it.  I live
> and breath SVG for 40-60 hours a week, each and every
> week.   I may
> not be driving a Mercedes (yet) but take into account
> that I graduated
> in April.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alastair
> 
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Francis
> Hemsher"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Gad, is anyone driving a Mercedes and has a monied
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> Adobe.
> > 
> > If we continue to give away efforts for free, then,
> > in the business world, we are considered
> prostitutes.
> > 
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[svg-developers] Re: how to write to a file using posturl()

2005-08-11 Thread deeti_dave

Dear Chris,

I am trying to post to url very simple data, but all I get is
alert(urlRequestStatus.content);
 from the peice of code below:


function MyObj(msg) { this.msg = msg }
MyObj.prototype.operationComplete = function(urlRequestStatus)
{
if(urlRequestStatus.success)
{
alert('success!!');
if (urlRequestStatus.content!=null)
{
alert(urlRequestStatus.content);
}
}

}
which shows whole php file content.

Would some mismatch with my webserver, as I am not using 
standardized webserver, I have NCServer, which is an ISV webserver.

I would really appreciate it if you can enlighten me a li'l bit 
more...
D Dave


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Peto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> HI DD,
>  
> Best way is to post to a server scripting, i.e. PHP:
>  
> function MyObj(msg) { this.msg = msg }
> MyObj.prototype.operationComplete = function(urlRequestStatus)
> {
>  
>//alert(this.msg+" "+status);
>//alert(this.msg+" "+urlRequestStatus);
>if(urlRequestStatus.success)
>{
>  //alert('success');
>  if (urlRequestStatus.content!=null)
>  {
>alert(urlRequestStatus.content);
>GraphicChanged = false;
>  }
>}
>  
> }
>  
> 
> var fd = null;
> var filename = "NoName.svg";
> function saveFileOk(file,email,fileshort) {
>   //alert(email);
>   var content = glist.getSave();
>   //alert(content);
>   postURL("savefile.php?
filename="+file+"&email="+email,content, new
> MyObj("My message:"));
>   //filename = fileshort;
>   }
>  
>  
> savefile.php:
>  
>  extract($HTTP_GET_VARS);
> extract($HTTP_POST_VARS);
>  
> //$filename="./user/nothing";
> //input $file
> //  $HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA from posturl
> if(!preg_match("/.svg/",$filename)) $filename.=".svg";
> //a little security
> //$filename =  ereg_replace("\.\./", "",$filename);
> echo ("Filename: ".$filename." ");
> if(preg_match("/\.\/user\//",$filename) ||
> preg_match("/\.\.\/svgeditor\/user\//",$filename)) {
> if($fp = fopen($filename,"wb+")) {
>   fputs($fp,'');
>   //fputs($fp,"\n");
>   fputs($fp,$HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA);
>   //fputs($fp,"\n");
>   fclose($fp);
>  
>   echo("File write succeded:");
>   if($email != "") {
> $message = '';
> $message .= "\n";
> $message .= $HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA;
> $message .= "\n";
> mail($email,"Your svg from Resource 
Solutions",$message,"From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]");
> if($lfp = fopen("savelogfile.log","a+")) {
>   $strout = sprintf("Email: %s IP: %s writing file %s on
> %s",$email,$REMOTE_ADDR,$filename,date("d.M.Y, G:m:s", time()));
>   fputs($lfp,$strout);
>   fputs($lfp,"\n");
>   fclose($lfp);
>   }
> }
>   else {
> if($lfp = fopen("savelogfile.log","a+")) {
>   $strout = sprintf("IP: %s writing file %s on
> %s",$REMOTE_ADDR,$filename,date("d.M.Y, G:m:s", time()));
>   fputs($lfp,$strout);
>   fputs($lfp,"\n");
>   fclose($lfp);
>   }
> }
>   }
> else
>   echo("File create failed:");
> }
> else
>   echo ("Nice try!");
> ?>
>  
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of deeti_dave
> Sent: Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 23:11
> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [svg-developers] how to write to a file using posturl()
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I'm back again with question!
> I am using different ways to post some data to an html page:
> 
> function display_vol(evt){
>   var vol = js_arr[0];
> 
>   svgdoc = evt.target.ownerDocument;
>   alert("before postURL()");
>   var somevar = 'In SVG';
>   //postURL('svgWrite.html&avol='+vol,somevar ,callback);
> //postURL("svgWrite.html?avol=",vol ,callback);
> //postURL("svgWrite.html" ,"avol="+vol ,callback);
>   postURL("svgWrite.html?avol="+vol,vol ,callback);
> 
> }
> 
> 
> function callback(obj){
>   var string = '';
>   if(obj.success){
> alert("success!");
> string = obj.content;
> alert(string);
> 
> 
>   }else{
>   alert("request failed !");
>   }
> }
> 
> 
> 
> I tried all the ways commented in the code above to post some 
data, 
> but in html I can not get that value when I run this code. Plese, 
I 
> would really appreciate it if I can get some guidance..
> 
> Thank you
> DD
> 
> 
> 
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[svg-developers] CGUI window

2005-08-11 Thread Marÿffffffffffffffffffffffeda Bazus

Hi all,

I have developed a SVG Interactive Application for a
bus company. But now i have a problem, because i have
to fit the Svg Diagram to the Browser size but the
diagram is widder and higher, i have seen that there
is a possibility using the CGUI widget window, i would
like to put my diagram (that is generated dinamically)
inside a window (or a frame) then i would have my
diagram scollable because  the window objet has
scrollbars and fit the window to the browser size.

I try to so that:
var wagens_window = new Window(66,110,1318,722);
wagens_window.setAnchor(SVGDiagram, "right", -10,
"top", 10);
wagens_window.addToParent(SVGDiagram);
wagens_window.createControls( ControlBox.SCROLLV_CTRLS
| ControlBox.SCROLLH_CTRLS);

And also with a frame window:   
var ctrl_opts = ControlBox.SCROLLV_CTRLS |
ControlBox.SCROLLH_CTRLS;
var main_menu = null;
main_frame = new Frame (
 66,110,1318,722
 , null,
 false, null, ctrl_opts, false, true,
false, main_menu
   );

main_frame.addToParent(SVGDocument);

Does anybody have done something like that? i have
tried it but it doesn't work because i dont know
exactly what i have to do. Does anybody know any
examples???

 --- Alastair Fettes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

-
Hi Francis,

My job is 100% SVG research and I get paid quite well
for it.  I live
and breath SVG for 40-60 hours a week, each and every
week.   I may
not be driving a Mercedes (yet) but take into account
that I graduated
in April.

Cheers,
Alastair

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Francis
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> Gad, is anyone driving a Mercedes and has a monied
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> they are with SVG? I know all of the SVG visionaries
are totally un-
> paid for their efforts, believe it or not, including
Adobe.
> 
> If we continue to give away efforts for free, then,
> in the business world, we are considered
prostitutes.
> 
> Set your sites on making an honest return on your
efforts..Charge 
> $325/hour for your time for anyone that needs your
input.
> 
> Francis

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[svg-developers] Re: Let's make some income from SVG

2005-08-11 Thread Alastair Fettes

Hi Francis,

My job is 100% SVG research and I get paid quite well for it.  I live
and breath SVG for 40-60 hours a week, each and every week.   I may
not be driving a Mercedes (yet) but take into account that I graduated
in April.

Cheers,
Alastair

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> paid for their efforts, believe it or not, including Adobe.
> 
> If we continue to give away efforts for free, then,
> in the business world, we are considered prostitutes.
> 
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> $325/hour for your time for anyone that needs your input.
> 
> Francis

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[svg-developers] Re: how to write to a file using posturl()

2005-08-11 Thread deeti_dave

Thank you very much Chris!

I'm gonna try this now :)

D Dave


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Peto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> HI DD,
>  
> Best way is to post to a server scripting, i.e. PHP:
>  
> function MyObj(msg) { this.msg = msg }
> MyObj.prototype.operationComplete = function(urlRequestStatus)
> {
>  
>//alert(this.msg+" "+status);
>//alert(this.msg+" "+urlRequestStatus);
>if(urlRequestStatus.success)
>{
>  //alert('success');
>  if (urlRequestStatus.content!=null)
>  {
>alert(urlRequestStatus.content);
>GraphicChanged = false;
>  }
>}
>  
> }
>  
> 
> var fd = null;
> var filename = "NoName.svg";
> function saveFileOk(file,email,fileshort) {
>   //alert(email);
>   var content = glist.getSave();
>   //alert(content);
>   postURL("savefile.php?
filename="+file+"&email="+email,content, new
> MyObj("My message:"));
>   //filename = fileshort;
>   }
>  
>  
> savefile.php:
>  
>  extract($HTTP_GET_VARS);
> extract($HTTP_POST_VARS);
>  
> //$filename="./user/nothing";
> //input $file
> //  $HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA from posturl
> if(!preg_match("/.svg/",$filename)) $filename.=".svg";
> //a little security
> //$filename =  ereg_replace("\.\./", "",$filename);
> echo ("Filename: ".$filename." ");
> if(preg_match("/\.\/user\//",$filename) ||
> preg_match("/\.\.\/svgeditor\/user\//",$filename)) {
> if($fp = fopen($filename,"wb+")) {
>   fputs($fp,'');
>   //fputs($fp,"\n");
>   fputs($fp,$HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA);
>   //fputs($fp,"\n");
>   fclose($fp);
>  
>   echo("File write succeded:");
>   if($email != "") {
> $message = '';
> $message .= "\n";
> $message .= $HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA;
> $message .= "\n";
> mail($email,"Your svg from Resource 
Solutions",$message,"From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]");
> if($lfp = fopen("savelogfile.log","a+")) {
>   $strout = sprintf("Email: %s IP: %s writing file %s on
> %s",$email,$REMOTE_ADDR,$filename,date("d.M.Y, G:m:s", time()));
>   fputs($lfp,$strout);
>   fputs($lfp,"\n");
>   fclose($lfp);
>   }
> }
>   else {
> if($lfp = fopen("savelogfile.log","a+")) {
>   $strout = sprintf("IP: %s writing file %s on
> %s",$REMOTE_ADDR,$filename,date("d.M.Y, G:m:s", time()));
>   fputs($lfp,$strout);
>   fputs($lfp,"\n");
>   fclose($lfp);
>   }
> }
>   }
> else
>   echo("File create failed:");
> }
> else
>   echo ("Nice try!");
> ?>
>  
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of deeti_dave
> Sent: Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 23:11
> To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [svg-developers] how to write to a file using posturl()
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I'm back again with question!
> I am using different ways to post some data to an html page:
> 
> function display_vol(evt){
>   var vol = js_arr[0];
> 
>   svgdoc = evt.target.ownerDocument;
>   alert("before postURL()");
>   var somevar = 'In SVG';
>   //postURL('svgWrite.html&avol='+vol,somevar ,callback);
> //postURL("svgWrite.html?avol=",vol ,callback);
> //postURL("svgWrite.html" ,"avol="+vol ,callback);
>   postURL("svgWrite.html?avol="+vol,vol ,callback);
> 
> }
> 
> 
> function callback(obj){
>   var string = '';
>   if(obj.success){
> alert("success!");
> string = obj.content;
> alert(string);
> 
> 
>   }else{
>   alert("request failed !");
>   }
> }
> 
> 
> 
> I tried all the ways commented in the code above to post some 
data, 
> but in html I can not get that value when I run this code. Plese, 
I 
> would really appreciate it if I can get some guidance..
> 
> Thank you
> DD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[svg-developers] "glyph width" Calculation

2005-08-11 Thread Arun Chakaravarthy


Hi all,

I am doing the implemention of Text Rendering for SVGFont in SVGT.

I am calculating the positions of each character of the text by considering the 
hori-adv-x, widths, 
glyph-orientation, letter-spacing and other required attributes.

But, if the widths attribute is not given, I  have to calculate the glyph width 
for each character with my own calculations .

First, I calculated the glyph width just by traversing all the glyph's path 
data('d' attribute) and get the difference between the Maximum  x value and 
Minimum y value.
But my calculations went wrong in case of bezier curves.

I tried Some other ways...but in vain.

I want to know the best way to calculate the widths  of glyphs having bezier 
points also in its path data.
Please help me.

Thanks,

Regards,
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: read svg file from the webpage

2005-08-11 Thread Andre M. Winter - Carto.net

hi sam

no, you can't on a client machine that accesses two different servers. 
that is not a SVG issue but has been that way back in 1997 when i first 
had this problem. this is a client side script security reason.

you need to make the reading code AND the svg coming form one unique 
domain, there is no workaround on the client side.

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samcctan wrote:

>Thanks Andreas!
>I think I understand what you mean here. I am very new in this area. 
>So hope you don't mind if I ask any of the silly questions.
>
>Is there any other codes that enable me to read any svg file in the 
>webpage? I am actually creating a plugin for Firefox (as IE is more 
>strict in its security matter), which able to do read svg file from 
>any of the webpage (doesn't matter where those svg loaded from - 
>which server).
>
>Is there any other ways to do so?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sam
>
>--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Neumann" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi, 
>> 
>>this looks like you are running into the security restrictions. 
>> 
>>With .getURL and XMLHttpRequest you can only read data from the 
>>
>>
>same 
>  
>
>>source than the original HTML/SVG file comes from. This means that 
>>if you read the original file from the local machine you can only 
>>get data from the local machine. Likewise, if you load the svg from 
>>webserver A you can only do the getURL/XMLHttpRequests to server A 
>>and not to server B. 
>> 
>>There is no workaround other than using server A as a proxy for 
>>server B, if you need to access server B. 
>> 
>>Andreas 
>> 
>> 
>>--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "samcctan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>wrote: 
>>
>>
>>>Hi all, 
>>> 
>>>I am using JavaScript to read SVG file. At this moment I am 
>>>  
>>>
>>reading  
>>
>>
>>>from a local SVG file and it is working. But now, I am going to 
>>>  
>>>
>>want  
>>
>>
>>>to read SVG file from the webpage. 
>>> 
>>>This is my code to read local SVG file (from local machine): 
>>> 
>>>function init(){ 
>>>
>>>readXML("SVGBarGraph.svg"); 
>>>loadFile(); 
>>>} 
>>>function readXML(url){ 
>>>if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { 
>>>req = new XMLHttpRequest(); 
>>>req.overrideMimeType ("text/xml"); 
>>>req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
>>>req.open("GET", url, true); 
>>>req.send(null); 
>>>} else if (window.ActiveXObject) { 
>>>   req = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); 
>>>if (req) { 
>>>req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
>>>req.open("GET", url, true); 
>>>req.send(); 
>>>} 
>>>} 
>>>}  
>>> 
>>>function processReqChange() {  
>>> 
>>>   if (req.readyState == 4 && req.responseXML) {  
>>> var resp = req.responseXML; 
>>>parseSVGFile(resp);  
>>>   }  
>>>}  
>>> 
>>>function parseSVGFile(svgDOM){  
>>>   ... (my codes) 
>>>} 
>>> 
>>>Could anyone help me or give me some advices? 
>>> 
>>>Thanks in advance, 
>>> 
>>>Sam
>>>  
>>>
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[svg-developers] Re: read svg file from the webpage

2005-08-11 Thread samcctan

Thanks Andreas!
I think I understand what you mean here. I am very new in this area. 
So hope you don't mind if I ask any of the silly questions.

Is there any other codes that enable me to read any svg file in the 
webpage? I am actually creating a plugin for Firefox (as IE is more 
strict in its security matter), which able to do read svg file from 
any of the webpage (doesn't matter where those svg loaded from - 
which server).

Is there any other ways to do so?

Thanks,

Sam

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Neumann" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, 
>  
> this looks like you are running into the security restrictions. 
>  
> With .getURL and XMLHttpRequest you can only read data from the 
same 
> source than the original HTML/SVG file comes from. This means that 
> if you read the original file from the local machine you can only 
> get data from the local machine. Likewise, if you load the svg from 
> webserver A you can only do the getURL/XMLHttpRequests to server A 
> and not to server B. 
>  
> There is no workaround other than using server A as a proxy for 
> server B, if you need to access server B. 
>  
> Andreas 
>  
>  
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "samcctan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote: 
> > Hi all, 
> >  
> > I am using JavaScript to read SVG file. At this moment I am 
> reading  
> > from a local SVG file and it is working. But now, I am going to 
> want  
> > to read SVG file from the webpage. 
> >  
> > This is my code to read local SVG file (from local machine): 
> >  
> > function init(){ 
> > 
> > readXML("SVGBarGraph.svg"); 
> > loadFile(); 
> > } 
> > function readXML(url){ 
> > if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { 
> > req = new XMLHttpRequest(); 
> > req.overrideMimeType ("text/xml"); 
> > req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
> > req.open("GET", url, true); 
> > req.send(null); 
> > } else if (window.ActiveXObject) { 
> >req = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); 
> > if (req) { 
> > req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
> > req.open("GET", url, true); 
> > req.send(); 
> > } 
> > } 
> > }  
> >  
> > function processReqChange() {  
> >  
> >if (req.readyState == 4 && req.responseXML) {  
> > var resp = req.responseXML; 
> > parseSVGFile(resp);  
> >}  
> > }  
> >  
> > function parseSVGFile(svgDOM){  
> >... (my codes) 
> > } 
> >  
> > Could anyone help me or give me some advices? 
> >  
> > Thanks in advance, 
> >  
> > Sam





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[svg-developers] Re: read svg file from the webpage

2005-08-11 Thread Andreas Neumann

Hi, 
 
this looks like you are running into the security restrictions. 
 
With .getURL and XMLHttpRequest you can only read data from the same 
source than the original HTML/SVG file comes from. This means that 
if you read the original file from the local machine you can only 
get data from the local machine. Likewise, if you load the svg from 
webserver A you can only do the getURL/XMLHttpRequests to server A 
and not to server B. 
 
There is no workaround other than using server A as a proxy for 
server B, if you need to access server B. 
 
Andreas 
 
 
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "samcctan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 
> Hi all, 
>  
> I am using JavaScript to read SVG file. At this moment I am 
reading  
> from a local SVG file and it is working. But now, I am going to 
want  
> to read SVG file from the webpage. 
>  
> This is my code to read local SVG file (from local machine): 
>  
> function init(){ 
> 
> readXML("SVGBarGraph.svg"); 
> loadFile(); 
> } 
> function readXML(url){ 
> if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { 
> req = new XMLHttpRequest(); 
> req.overrideMimeType ("text/xml"); 
> req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
> req.open("GET", url, true); 
> req.send(null); 
> } else if (window.ActiveXObject) { 
>req = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); 
> if (req) { 
> req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; 
> req.open("GET", url, true); 
> req.send(); 
> } 
> } 
> }  
>  
> function processReqChange() {  
>  
>if (req.readyState == 4 && req.responseXML) {  
>   var resp = req.responseXML; 
> parseSVGFile(resp);  
>}  
> }  
>  
> function parseSVGFile(svgDOM){  
>... (my codes) 
> } 
>  
> Could anyone help me or give me some advices? 
>  
> Thanks in advance, 
>  
> Sam 




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[svg-developers] read svg file from the webpage

2005-08-11 Thread samcctan

Hi all,

I am using JavaScript to read SVG file. At this moment I am reading 
from a local SVG file and it is working. But now, I am going to want 
to read SVG file from the webpage.

This is my code to read local SVG file (from local machine):

function init(){
   
readXML("SVGBarGraph.svg");
loadFile();
}
function readXML(url){
if (window.XMLHttpRequest) {
req = new XMLHttpRequest();
req.overrideMimeType ("text/xml");
req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
req.open("GET", url, true);
req.send(null);
} else if (window.ActiveXObject) {
   req = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
if (req) {
req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
req.open("GET", url, true);
req.send();
}
}
} 

function processReqChange() { 

   if (req.readyState == 4 && req.responseXML) { 
var resp = req.responseXML;
parseSVGFile(resp); 
   } 
} 

function parseSVGFile(svgDOM){ 
   ... (my codes)
}

Could anyone help me or give me some advices?

Thanks in advance,

Sam





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[svg-developers] Re: Animated Line Drawing?

2005-08-11 Thread Andreas Neumann

Hi, 
 
here are two more examples for the same approach Doug proposed: 
 
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/animated_bustrack.shtml 
and 
http://pilat.free.fr/english/animer/france.htm 
 
Andreas 
 
 




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RE: [svg-developers] Animated Line Drawing?

2005-08-11 Thread Doug Schepers

Hi, AC-

I think what you want is something like this:



   
  
  
   



The key is getting the stroke-dashoffset correct; it should match the total
length of the line you want drawn. You could write a simple script to
discover the length of your line, or you can do it by hand... Start with 0,
and work your way up by larger increments (10, 20, 30), until you get in the
ballpark, then tweak it by smaller increments.

The second animation isn't relevant to your question, I just put it in there
for style.


Regards-
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www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions.
 

Acielto wrote:
| 
| Hello, Everyone, I am new to SVG and would like to know if 
| someone can share with me how to accomplished the following: 
| 
| I want to go from point A to point B, in a straight line or 
| path, but have the line/path painted/colored/stroked over 
| time as it goes along the path, similar to drawing a line 
| with a pencil from the top of a page to the bottom without 
| lifting the pencil off the paper, so instead of rendering the 
| line instantly, it unfolds in some color over time...
| 
| Any help will be greatly appreciated...
| 
| Much Thnx
| 
| AC



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