[svg-developers] Anti-aliasing in FireFox
Does FireFox have a way to enable anti-aliasing in SVG? I'm thinking along the lines of the 'Higher Quality' context menu item in ASV. Thanks for any help you can give. - Travis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Corecting Javascript for Firefox
* Jeff Schiller wrote: >Perhaps you can try evt.currentTarget? That's what seems to work for >me consistently across IE+ASV6, IE+ASV3, Fx1.5 and O9. Though note that target and currentTarget are quite different, target is the event target (what the event is dispatched to) and currentTarget is what the event listener is attached to, e.g., if you have a bubbling event like 'click' the event might be dispatched to a 'rect' element and the event listener might be registered on a 'g' element that contains the rect, in this case the target is the 'rect' and the currentTarget is the 'g' element. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Weinh. Str. 22 · Telefon: +49(0)621/4309674 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 68309 Mannheim · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Corecting Javascript for Firefox
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Pearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the hope that my hosting company will sort out encoding for SVGZ (if they > don't I'll find another one when it comes up for re-newal), I decided to > correct my Javascript so it works with Firefox. It seemed that the main > problem was in this function, which is used by pretty well all my mouseover, > mouseout and click events: > > function getDoc(evt) { > return evt.getTarget().getOwnerDocument() > } > > Fortunately this is in an external file so Pressumably all I have to do is > change it and most my JavaScript should work in Firefox. As far I could > make out from http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters, I > should change it to: > > function getDoc(evt) { > return evt.target.documentElement > } > > However this gives me an error message in ASV and still doesn't work in > Firefox. Can somebody explain what the problem is? > > Richard Pearman http://www.pixelpalaces.com/ > The next stage in the evolution of web comics: > http://www.onlinecomics.net/pages/details/listing.php?comicID=4415 > Richard, Perhaps you can try evt.currentTarget? That's what seems to work for me consistently across IE+ASV6, IE+ASV3, Fx1.5 and O9. Also, is your host using Apache? If so, you can usually add a .htaccess file into your directory to fix the content encoding yourself. See Jonathan Watt's authoring guidelines page. Regards, Jeff Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: PLEASE CORECT ME
Aha. I guess I need to go learn xml then eh? :-S Alastair --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bjoern Hoehrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Petronel Laviniu MALUTAN - Talente.ro wrote: > >I have the following piece of svg whic is working perfectly without a > >xlink:href and with it is not working ! > > You must write & as & in XML documents. > -- > Björn Höhrmann · mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de > Weinh. Str. 22 · Telefon: +49(0)621/4309674 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de > 68309 Mannheim · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/ > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Corecting Javascript for Firefox
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Pearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > function getDoc(evt) { > return evt.target.documentElement > } > A partial answer : at least evt.target works both in ASV3.03 and Firefox 1.5 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Corecting Javascript for Firefox
In the hope that my hosting company will sort out encoding for SVGZ (if they don't I'll find another one when it comes up for re-newal), I decided to correct my Javascript so it works with Firefox. It seemed that the main problem was in this function, which is used by pretty well all my mouseover, mouseout and click events: function getDoc(evt) { return evt.getTarget().getOwnerDocument() } Fortunately this is in an external file so Pressumably all I have to do is change it and most my JavaScript should work in Firefox. As far I could make out from http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters, I should change it to: function getDoc(evt) { return evt.target.documentElement } However this gives me an error message in ASV and still doesn't work in Firefox. Can somebody explain what the problem is? Richard Pearman http://www.pixelpalaces.com/ The next stage in the evolution of web comics: http://www.onlinecomics.net/pages/details/listing.php?comicID=4415 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Ronan, it would be great to see examples of some of your accessibility solutions for SVG, perhaps you could post links with comments? As Chris points out, SVG would benefit from an accessibility techniques document. regarding meta-data labelling of SVG, http://www.peepo.co.uk uses reasonably extensive RDF descriptions of GUIs, can you perhaps point to an example that you consider relevant? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd Accessible Solutions http://www.eas-i.co.uk On 19 Dec 2005, at 23:04, Ronan Oger wrote: Jonathan, On Monday 19 December 2005 18:07, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: > Ronan, > > as an accessibility consultant I use a variety of equipment and > operating systems, linux since '97-'98**, OS X currently and windows > whenever, certainly all three every workday. Yes, the inclusion of legacy systems into new systems... that painful old problem. Luckily, pre-2000 PCs are totally underweight for the simplest SVG applications, so we are technologically constrained to winXP, win2K, winME, and the serious OSs. > > Accessibility has to be included at each level, from document through > to application and operating system. Agreed. And I would add that there is a need for consistency. specifying the source of input is inappropriate in the document, and specifying the mouseover effects is inappropriate in the OS. I think we would be most prudent to all agree to a set of standards, and them implement those. The thing that would make me happiest is using metadata tags (hence outside of SVG namespace) to describe some behaviour that you can either pick up through a standardized set of scripts or through built-in UA functionality. > It is possible and indeed likely that there may be conflicts, and > this is only one reason why it is critical that accessibility is > included at each level. > Indeed KDE, Gnome and Mozilla each have helpful accessibility experts. > > It is important to separate out DOM level keyboard events such as > text entry from the general application functionality to which 1.1 > refers. > > At the document level it may for instance be essential to provide > some visual indicator to the keyboard user to help them identify > where they are. > in HTML this is frequently a border around the graphic or a change of > background colour. > This can be done by the application, but is frequently controlled by > the author. > These de facto standards have arisen for HTML but are remarkably > absent from SVG at the present time: > These may be defacto standards in html, but SVG applications are far closer to QT or GTK applications than they are to html apps. I propose to you that it makes good business sense to provide shortcut functionality along the lines of those frameworks, and that app developers will be *forced* to do this by their managers when SVG applications begin to fulfil commercial requirements. I firmly believe that it is far more in the interests of the parties interested in accessibility to get the user agents and viewers to implement accessibility hooks that can be implemented by developers than to ask each developer to figure out how to do it themeselves in the code. This is simply asking for trouble. I personally would be happier with a standard we can all live with that offers a lightweight solution via scripting, using declarative tags. Like what the widgets people have been doing for years now with declarative widgets. > See WCAG 2.4: Provide mechanisms to help users find content, orient > themselves within it, and navigate through it. > and 2.4.8 in particular: "Using an icon or text to indicate current > location within navigation bars." > http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/guidelines.html#navigation-mechanisms > > Arbitrary links are likely to be confusing for most users, what is > needed are standards derived through experience. > There is to date remarkably little keyboard navigation data available > for SVG which makes it harder to create techniques and guidelines. > True. Even more perplexing is the addition of new dynamicallay generated links. SVG applications can add/remove links that the developers may not have known about (think wikis). Tabbing is a fine way to go, but is rather fragile when used in context of the complexity that SVG can throw at you. Ronan > Chris Lilley: "an SVG techniques document would help" > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2005Dec/0044.html > > Do please try our keyboard navigation using ff1.5 at http:// > www.peepo.com/index.svg to see how we have attempted to meet 2.4.8. > use the 'tab' key to navigate, 'shift + tab' to go back through the > links. > Correction: your link is http://www.peepo.co.uk/index.svg . It's nice and I like the tabbing functionality. I don't like that it's in scripting and i understand why you are unhappy withthe lack of a spec for this in the w3c. However, I also t
Re: [svg-developers] PLEASE CORECT ME
* Petronel Laviniu MALUTAN - Talente.ro wrote: >I have the following piece of svg whic is working perfectly without a >xlink:href and with it is not working ! You must write & as & in XML documents. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Weinh. Str. 22 · Telefon: +49(0)621/4309674 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 68309 Mannheim · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Please correct me
Please do not use all caps in your subject line. It can cause consternation with the reader and could make people not want to help you. As for fixing your problem: have you added the xlink namespace to your svg? http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink/"; ...> ... Alastair --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Petronel Laviniu MALUTAN - Talente.ro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends > I have the following piece of svg whic is working perfectly without a > xlink:href and with it is not working ! > What seem to be wrong !? > > THE CODE IS NOT WORKING WIT HREF > ...00"> xlink:href="iteminfo.php?son=3&father=2&nbr=&id=3&name=1994+-+1996" > target="main"> style="font-size:12.00px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;fill:# > 00;fill-opacity:1.000;stroke:none;stroke-width:1.000px;stroke-lineca > p:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1.000;font-family:Bitstream > Vera Sans" x="18" y="52">1994 - 1996 / > THE CODE IS WORKING WITHOUT HREF > ...00"> style="font-size:12.00px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;fill:# > 00;fill-opacity:1.000;stroke:none;stroke-width:1.000px;stroke-lineca > p:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1.000;font-family:Bitstream > Vera Sans" x="18" y="52">1994 - 1996 / > Thank you > Petronel > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: PLEASE CORECT ME
Is your script embedded within SVG or externally referenced? If intenral, did you wrap your script in CDATA? What implementations does this not work on? --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Petronel Laviniu MALUTAN - Talente.ro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends > I have the following piece of svg whic is working perfectly without a > xlink:href and with it is not working ! > What seem to be wrong !? > > THE CODE IS NOT WORKING WIT HREF > ...00"> xlink:href="iteminfo.php?son=3&father=2&nbr=&id=3&name=1994+-+1996" > target="main"> style="font-size:12.00px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;fill:# > 00;fill-opacity:1.000;stroke:none;stroke-width:1.000px;stroke-lineca > p:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1.000;font-family:Bitstream > Vera Sans" x="18" y="52">1994 - 1996 / > THE CODE IS WORKING WITHOUT HREF > ...00"> style="font-size:12.00px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;fill:# > 00;fill-opacity:1.000;stroke:none;stroke-width:1.000px;stroke-lineca > p:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1.000;font-family:Bitstream > Vera Sans" x="18" y="52">1994 - 1996 / > Thank you > Petronel > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] PLEASE CORECT ME
Dear friends I have the following piece of svg whic is working perfectly without a xlink:href and with it is not working ! What seem to be wrong !? THE CODE IS NOT WORKING WIT HREF ...00">1994 - 1996 / 1994 - 1996 / Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] get all foreign namespace elements below a node in SVG
On Dec 22, 2005, at 16:55, rwkemper wrote: > what is the best method to get all elements below a node which are in > a foreign name space ? > What I'm looking for is something like getElementsByTagNameNS > ('ns','name') > but just the elements in 'ns' name space BELOW the current node and > not all elements of the document. getElementsByTagNameNS() called on an element only searches the descendants of that element. -- Robin Berjon Senior Research Scientist Expway, http://expway.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] get all foreign namespace elements below a node in SVG
Dear All, what is the best method to get all elements below a node which are in a foreign name space ? What I'm looking for is something like getElementsByTagNameNS ('ns','name') but just the elements in 'ns' name space BELOW the current node and not all elements of the document. Do I really have to traverse the tree or is there any better option ? Thanks for your hints in advance Rolf Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[svg-developers] Re: Subject: Saving SVG
Petronel, I would encourage you to contribute to the SVG Wiki: http://svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php I think the wiki is the place where all info and links to various SVG resources should ideally go. Unfortunately, the wiki has seen hard times in the last couple years (first it was spammed to death, then resurrected but now very much out of date). We need SVG community participation here (myself included). Please contact Doug Scheppers (info on main page) for an account for this wiki. Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Petronel Laviniu MALUTAN - Talente.ro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the mean time can we did an effort of centralising all available tools > regarding SVG and somebody create a HTM page containing links to these tools > like ASV and INKSCAPE AND SKETSA and DRAW and maybe many other like some > tools for animation ? > I am thinking that as much as I am owner and have access to around 5-10 > web sites, and for sure many of you stay much better, we can put the tools > on the main site for a while and we will surelly increase the poeople whihc > have interess in using SVG. > > What are you saying people ? > Are we trying ? > > Regards from Petronel > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/