[svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs
Sean, Of course it's possible. You need to target the document and not just the element that makes the call: function edit2(evt){ // var objet=evt.target; var objet = evt.target.ownerDocument; var tspan1 = objet.getElementById(tspan1); //Works tspan1.firstChild.data = NewText; } It works in IE7 and FF. I'm not sure the last line is what you want to do, just a guess, but tspan1 returns an object so you can do anything with it. Domenico --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rafter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean, It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each browser. Try this code inside of your event: var target = evt.target; var use = null if (target == null) return; if (target.correspondingUseElement) use = target.correspondingUseElement; This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in case it is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that you should be able to access use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable) From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which you can use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be able to use read only DOM properties. See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the link specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced element by the specified ID. Cheers, Jeff Rafter Sean wrote: I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use tag. I have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the g tag. I want to be able to navigate those elements. I'm coming to the conclusion that it can't be done. Sean Peter Kalev wrote: Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search for the g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine for me... Peter Kalev Senior Developer, SWF, LLC -Original Message- From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs I should say navigate the use element. I realize that it is read only, but I can't figure out how to do that. Thanks. Sean wrote: Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement SVGElementInstance? Thanks. Sean Sean wrote: Hi Alastair, Thanks for the input. I figured as much with the id, but getElementByName didn't work either. I was hoping that something would work. I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing works. objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that the child nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the approaches below useless, no pun intended. My failure to get the use tags to work would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 210,000 tags. I have quite the incentive to make it work. Thanks. var objet=evt.target; alert(objet.childNodes.length); var child = objet.firstChild; i=0; while(child != null){ childSibling = child.nextSibling; alert(child.nodeType); child = childSibling; } Sean Alastair Fettes wrote: You've made a fundamental mistake. 1. The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have multiple copies) of an definition. 2. The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one attribute with a specific value document wide (see xs:ID type - http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID). So therefore you have a fundamental mistake. The defs section and the id invalidate each other. The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to getElementById( useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan. Maybe, i don't guarantee it. Alastair --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Sean scene@ wrote: I would like to use the use tags to save much text size as below. Problem is grabbing and editing data with onclick events. The id for my tspan would always be the same, but they would be used in different use tags with unique IDs. Is there a way to isolate say the tspan1 under useFrame2? SVG defs g id=textFrame cat=textBox text cat=textBox font-size=14 font=sans-serif tspan id=tspan1 cat=textBoxText/tspan/text texttspan visibility=hidden id=tspan2/tspan/text /g /defs use id=useFrame onclick=edit2(evt);
[svg-developers] Certificaion
I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good. Computer skills in many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many others, can be certified. If a certification for svg can be developed, many people may take the test. This will be an incentive for people to learn the technology. I know CIW is a certification for web designers. It will help if svg becomes part of it. Just my 2 cents. - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Certificaion
Hey Fulio, Ronan oversees a group called SVG-Jobs, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-jobs/ Sara --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Fulio Pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good. Computer skills in many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many others, can be certified. If a certification for svg can be developed, many people may take the test. This will be an incentive for people to learn the technology. I know CIW is a certification for web designers. It will help if svg becomes part of it. Just my 2 cents. - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Certificaion
Just put more restrictions... ...my two cents... Peter Kalev Senior Developer, SWF, LLC -Original Message- From: Fulio Pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:24 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Certificaion I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good. Computer skills in many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many others, can be certified. If a certification for svg can be developed, many people may take the test. This will be an incentive for people to learn the technology. I know CIW is a certification for web designers. It will help if svg becomes part of it. Just my 2 cents. - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser
Hi Nathan, the svg root element has the .viewport attribute for that purpose which is implemented in Batik. See the file below. a good resource to view the available SVG DOM methods and properties is btw http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/object.asp?id=133 - there aren't comments, but at least you see what is available and inherited. viewport example: -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% onload=viewportTest() script type=text/ecmascript ![CDATA[ function viewportTest() { var viewPort = document.documentElement.viewport; alert(viewPort.x+,+viewPort.y+,+viewPort.width+,+viewPort.height); } ]] /script /svg Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, sent1729 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to get the windows screen size(width and height in pixles), in batik squiglle browser. For ex: in IE using javascript we can say screen.width and screen.height to access the windows screen size information, is there an equivalent command in batik? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Nathan. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Problems with DOM Objects: serialize an XML node to a string...
Hi Martin. I'm so happy! The example that you posted helped me... :) I'm using IE 6 and ASV 3. Thank you so much! This article about SVG Server Side is interesting too.. http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/02/27/batik/index.html Regards, Verusa Domethildes --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Verusa Domethildes verusa@ wrote: I'm using this code in HTML file, but it's returning undefined. var xmlDoc = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLDOM); var svgDoc = document.embeds[workArea].getSVGDocument(); var workArea= svgDoc.getElementById(workArea); var markup = workArea.xml; alert(markup); Which SVG viewer are you using? If that is Adobe SVG viewer rendering your SVG in that HTML embed element named workArea then you need to employ the printNode function the viewer provides. If that is Firefox 1.5 rendering the SVG then you can use an XMLSerializer. Should work with Opera 9 preview too. Getting at printNode, a function that the Adobe SVG viewer implements, from script in the HTML document is a bit convoluted, here is one example that works for me with IE 6 and Adobe SVG viewer 3: http://home.arcor.de/martin.honnen/svg/test2006020601.html You could also put script in the SVG document that exports the printNode function with e.g. parent.svgPrintNode = printNode and then call svgPrintNode(yourNode) with script in the HTML document in IE with the Adobe viewer. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] mouse dblclick event
how do I get mouse dblclick event? regards [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs
Domenico, First, thanks for pointing me to the resizable text wrap. It was just what I needed. With regards to the use tag, I was hoping I could reuse a tspan element and modify the text for each use tag, but once I change tspan1, all the references would reflect it. So using a tspan in the defs and reusing over and over for separate text boxes is not possible. Sean domenico_strazzullo wrote: Sean, Of course it's possible. You need to target the document and not just the element that makes the call: function edit2(evt){ // var objet=evt.target; var objet = evt.target.ownerDocument; var tspan1 = objet.getElementById(tspan1); //Works tspan1.firstChild.data = NewText; } It works in IE7 and FF. I'm not sure the last line is what you want to do, just a guess, but tspan1 returns an object so you can do anything with it. Domenico --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rafter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean, It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each browser. Try this code inside of your event: var target = evt.target; var use = null if (target == null) return; if (target.correspondingUseElement) use = target.correspondingUseElement; This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in case it is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that you should be able to access use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable) From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which you can use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be able to use read only DOM properties. See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the link specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced element by the specified ID. Cheers, Jeff Rafter Sean wrote: I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use tag. I have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the g tag. I want to be able to navigate those elements. I'm coming to the conclusion that it can't be done. Sean Peter Kalev wrote: Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search for the g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine for me... Peter Kalev Senior Developer, SWF, LLC -Original Message- From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs I should say navigate the use element. I realize that it is read only, but I can't figure out how to do that. Thanks. Sean wrote: Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement SVGElementInstance? Thanks. Sean Sean wrote: Hi Alastair, Thanks for the input. I figured as much with the id, but getElementByName didn't work either. I was hoping that something would work. I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing works. objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that the child nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the approaches below useless, no pun intended. My failure to get the use tags to work would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 210,000 tags. I have quite the incentive to make it work. Thanks. var objet=evt.target; alert(objet.childNodes.length); var child = objet.firstChild; i=0; while(child != null){ childSibling = child.nextSibling; alert(child.nodeType); child = childSibling; } Sean Alastair Fettes wrote: You've made a fundamental mistake. 1. The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have multiple copies) of an definition. 2. The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one attribute with a specific value document wide (see xs:ID type - http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID). So therefore you have a fundamental mistake. The defs section and the id invalidate each other. The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to getElementById( useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan. Maybe, i don't guarantee it. Alastair --- In
[svg-developers] Re: mouse dblclick event
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I get mouse dblclick event? You might want to check the click event and the detail property of the event object: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Events/events.html#Events-MouseEvent - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs
Jeff, As of now, I realize I cannot use the use tags the way I thought I could, but I'm still curios. Either I'm missing something or I don't get what is going on. If I understand correctly, use = target.correspondingUseElement; should give me the use tag I clicked on. Which means use.getAttribute(id); should return the id of the use tag. I get id is null. Should I be getting null or the id? Thanks. Sean Jeff Rafter wrote: Sean, It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each browser. Try this code inside of your event: var target = evt.target; var use = null if (target == null) return; if (target.correspondingUseElement) use = target.correspondingUseElement; This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in case it is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that you should be able to access use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable) From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which you can use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be able to use read only DOM properties. See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the link specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced element by the specified ID. Cheers, Jeff Rafter Sean wrote: I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use tag. I have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the g tag. I want to be able to navigate those elements. I'm coming to the conclusion that it can't be done. Sean Peter Kalev wrote: Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search for the g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine for me... Peter Kalev Senior Developer, SWF, LLC -Original Message- From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs I should say navigate the use element. I realize that it is read only, but I can't figure out how to do that. Thanks. Sean wrote: Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement SVGElementInstance? Thanks. Sean Sean wrote: Hi Alastair, Thanks for the input. I figured as much with the id, but getElementByName didn't work either. I was hoping that something would work. I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing works. objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that the child nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the approaches below useless, no pun intended. My failure to get the use tags to work would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 210,000 tags. I have quite the incentive to make it work. Thanks. var objet=evt.target; alert(objet.childNodes.length); var child = objet.firstChild; i=0; while(child != null){ childSibling = child.nextSibling; alert(child.nodeType); child = childSibling; } Sean Alastair Fettes wrote: You've made a fundamental mistake. 1. The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have multiple copies) of an definition. 2. The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one attribute with a specific value document wide (see xs:ID type - http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID). So therefore you have a fundamental mistake. The defs section and the id invalidate each other. The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to getElementById( useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan. Maybe, i don't guarantee it. Alastair --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to use the use tags to save much text size as below. Problem is grabbing and editing data with onclick events. The id for my tspan would always be the same, but they would be used in different use tags with unique IDs. Is there a way to isolate say the tspan1 under useFrame2? SVG defs g id=textFrame cat=textBox text cat=textBox font-size=14 font=sans-serif tspan id=tspan1 cat=textBoxText/tspan/text texttspan visibility=hidden id=tspan2/tspan/text /g /defs use id=useFrame onclick=edit2(evt); xlink:href=#textFrame transform=translate(10,25)/ use id=useFrame2 onclick=edit2(evt); xlink:href=#textFrame transform=translate(10,50)/ JS function edit2(evt){ var
[svg-developers] Interesting interview with Miguel de Icaza cofounder of gnome
Interesting interview with Miguel de Icaza cofounder of gnome, ximian and mono. The bottom of the article he talks about the biggest risk to the open source community and XAML Regards, Ron DeSerranno Mobiform Software Ltd. http://www.mobiform.com Download the Aurora XAML Designer Now! http://www.mobiform.com/Eng/aurora.html - The Article - http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/04/28/interview_with_miguel_de _icaza_cofounder_of_gnome_ximian_and_mono.html Q. What do you see as the greatest danger to the continuing adoption and progress of open source? A. Microsoft realizes today that Linux is competing for some of the green pastures that it's been enjoying for so long; I think that Longhorn is a big attempt to take back what they owned before. Longhorn has kind of a scary technology called Avalon, which when compounded with another technology called XAML, it's fairly dangerous. And the reason is that they've made it so it's basically an HTML replacement. The advantage is it's probably as easy as writing HTML, so that means that anybody can produce this content with a text editor. It's basically an HTML Next Generation. A lot more widgets, a lot more flexibility, more richer experience - way, way richer experience. You get basically the native client experience with Web- like deployments. So you develop these extremely rich applications but they can be deployed as easily as the Web is. It's just like going to a URL: you go to Google, and you get the Web page and it works. So it's the same deployment model but the user interface interaction is just fantastic. Of course, the only drawback is that this new interaction is completely tied to .Net and WinFX. So we see that as a very big danger. A lot of people today cannot migrate to Linux or cannot migrate to Mozilla because a lot of their internal Web sites happen to use IE extensions. Now imagine a world where you can only use XAML. It's massive - I'm so scared - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Google Maps to use svg
Looks like there is still life in the old dog (svg) yet, in the latest version of Google Maps code that developers can access through the Google Maps API, Google have added functions for using SVG with the maps. http://jibbering.com/blog/?p=179 http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Google-Maps-API - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser
Hi, You could use Java AWT Toolkit to query Screen size. Toolkit toolKit = Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit().getScreenSize() Regards Tonny Kohar -- Sketsa SVG Graphics Editor http://www.kiyut.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser
Dear Andreas Neumann, I am not trying to get the screen width and height of the SVG canvas.Instead I am trying to get the computers sccreen resoultion and set the svg root's viewbox to match the computer screen resolution. I certainly appreciate your reply. Any further input will be helpful. Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nathan, the svg root element has the .viewport attribute for that purpose which is implemented in Batik. See the file below. a good resource to view the available SVG DOM methods and properties is btw http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/object.asp?id=133 - there aren't comments, but at least you see what is available and inherited. viewport example: -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% onload=viewportTest() script type=text/ecmascript ![CDATA[ function viewportTest() { var viewPort = document.documentElement.viewport; alert(viewPort.x+,+viewPort.y+,+viewPort.width+,+viewPort.height); } ]] /script /svg Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, sent1729 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to get the windows screen size(width and height in pixles), in batik squiglle browser. For ex: in IE using javascript we can say screen.width and screen.height to access the windows screen size information, is there an equivalent command in batik? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Nathan. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format Svg Format Data - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group svg-developers on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/