[svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs

2006-02-09 Thread domenico_strazzullo
Sean,

Of course it's possible. You need to target the document and not 
just the element that makes the call:

function edit2(evt){
//  var objet=evt.target;
var objet = evt.target.ownerDocument;
var tspan1 = objet.getElementById(tspan1); //Works
tspan1.firstChild.data = NewText;
}

It works in IE7 and FF. I'm not sure the last line is what you want 
to do, just a guess, but tspan1 returns an object so you can do 
anything with it.

Domenico


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rafter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sean,
 
 It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each 
browser. Try 
 this code inside of your event:
 
  var target = evt.target;
   var use = null
  if (target == null) return;
  if (target.correspondingUseElement)
use = target.correspondingUseElement;
 
 This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in 
case it 
 is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The 
 correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of 
 inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that 
you 
 should be able to access
 
   use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable)
 
  From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which 
you can 
 use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be 
able 
 to use read only DOM properties. See
 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance
 
 Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the 
link 
 specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced 
element 
 by the specified ID.
 
 Cheers,
 Jeff Rafter
 
 Sean wrote:
  I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use 
tag.  I 
  have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the 
g tag.  
  I want to be able to navigate those elements.  I'm coming to the 
  conclusion that it can't be done.
  
  Sean
  
  Peter Kalev wrote:
  
  Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search 
for the
  g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine 
for me...
 
  Peter Kalev
  Senior Developer,
  SWF, LLC
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM
  To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs
 
  I should say navigate the use element.  I realize that it is 
read only, 
  but I can't figure out how to do that.  Thanks.
 
  Sean wrote:
 
   
 
  Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement  
SVGElementInstance?
 
 
   
 
  Thanks.
 
  Sean
 
  Sean wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi Alastair,
 
  Thanks for the input.  I figured as much with the id, but 
  getElementByName didn't work either.  I was hoping that 
something
   
 
  would 
   
 
  work.  I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing 
works.  
  objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that 
the
   
 
  child 
   
 
  nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the 
approaches
   
 
   
 
  below useless, no pun intended.  My failure to get the use 
tags to
   
 
  work 
   
 
  would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 
210,000 tags.
   
 
  I 
   
 
  have quite the incentive to make it work.  Thanks.
 
  var objet=evt.target;
  alert(objet.childNodes.length);
 
  var child = objet.firstChild;
  i=0;
  while(child != null){
  childSibling = child.nextSibling;
  alert(child.nodeType);
  child = childSibling;
  }
 
  Sean
 
  Alastair Fettes wrote:
 
 
 

 
   
 
  You've made a fundamental mistake.  
 
  1.  The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have 
multiple
 
 
  copies)
   
 
  of an definition.
  2.  The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one 
attribute with a
  specific value document wide (see xs:ID type -
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID).
 
  So therefore you have a fundamental mistake.  The defs 
section and
 
 
  the
   
 
  id invalidate each other.
 
  The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to 
getElementById(
  useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan.  Maybe, i 
don't
  guarantee it.
 
  Alastair
 
  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Sean scene@ wrote:
 
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
  I would like to use the use tags to save much text size as 
below.  
  Problem is grabbing and editing data with onclick events.  
The id
 
 
 
 

 
   
 
  for my 
 
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
  tspan would always be the same, but they would be used in 
different
   
 
  use 
   
 
  tags with unique IDs.  Is there a way to isolate say the 
tspan1
   
 
  under 
   
 
  useFrame2?
 
  SVG
  defs
  g id=textFrame cat=textBox
  text cat=textBox font-size=14 font=sans-serif 
tspan 
  id=tspan1 cat=textBoxText/tspan/text
  texttspan visibility=hidden id=tspan2/tspan/text
  /g
  /defs
  use id=useFrame onclick=edit2(evt); 

[svg-developers] Certificaion

2006-02-09 Thread Fulio Pen
I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good.  Computer skills in 
many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many others,  can be 
certified.  If a certification for svg can be developed, many people may take 
the test.  This will be an incentive for people to learn the technology. I know 
CIW is a certification for web designers.  It will help if svg becomes part of 
it.  
   
  Just my 2 cents. 


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[svg-developers] Re: Certificaion

2006-02-09 Thread kubik_sj
Hey Fulio,
Ronan oversees a group called SVG-Jobs,  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-jobs/

Sara
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 I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good.  Computer 
skills in many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many 
others,  can be certified.  If a certification for svg can be 
developed, many people may take the test.  This will be an incentive 
for people to learn the technology. I know CIW is a certification for 
web designers.  It will help if svg becomes part of it.  

   Just my 2 cents. 
 
   
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RE: [svg-developers] Certificaion

2006-02-09 Thread Peter Kalev
Just put more restrictions...

...my two cents...

Peter Kalev
Senior Developer,
SWF, LLC


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From: Fulio Pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:24 AM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] Certificaion

I wonder whether the job market for svg skills is good.  Computer skills
in many fields, such a java, A+, Microsoft, Oracle and many others,  can
be certified.  If a certification for svg can be developed, many people
may take the test.  This will be an incentive for people to learn the
technology. I know CIW is a certification for web designers.  It will
help if svg becomes part of it.  
   
  Just my 2 cents. 


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[svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser

2006-02-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Nathan, 
 
the svg root element has the .viewport attribute for that purpose 
which is implemented in Batik. 
 
See the file below. 
 
a good resource to view the available SVG DOM methods and properties 
is btw http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/object.asp?id=133 - there aren't 
comments, but at least you see what is available and inherited. 
 
viewport example: 
-- 
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? 
!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; 
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% 
onload=viewportTest() 
script type=text/ecmascript 
![CDATA[ 
function viewportTest() { 
var viewPort = 
document.documentElement.viewport; 

alert(viewPort.x+,+viewPort.y+,+viewPort.width+,+viewPort.height); 
} 
]] 
/script 
/svg 
 
Hope this helps, 
Andreas 
 
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 Hi all, 
  
 Is it possible to get the windows screen size(width and height 
in  
 pixles), in batik squiglle browser. For ex: in IE using javascript 
we  
 can say screen.width and screen.height to access the windows 
screen  
 size information, is there an equivalent command in batik? 
  
 Any help is greatly appreciated. 
  
 Thanks 
 Nathan. 
 
 






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[svg-developers] Re: Problems with DOM Objects: serialize an XML node to a string...

2006-02-09 Thread Verusa Domethildes
Hi Martin.

I'm so happy! The example that you posted helped me... :)
I'm using IE 6 and ASV 3. Thank you so much!

This article about SVG Server Side is interesting too..
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/02/27/batik/index.html

Regards,

Verusa Domethildes



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 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Verusa Domethildes
 verusa@ wrote:
 
  I'm using this code in HTML file, but it's returning undefined.
  
  var xmlDoc = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLDOM);
  var svgDoc = document.embeds[workArea].getSVGDocument();
  var workArea= svgDoc.getElementById(workArea);
  var markup = workArea.xml;
  alert(markup);
 
 Which SVG viewer are you using?
 If that is Adobe SVG viewer rendering your SVG in that HTML embed
 element named workArea then you need to employ the printNode 
function
 the viewer provides.
 If that is Firefox 1.5 rendering the SVG then you can use an
 XMLSerializer. Should work with Opera 9 preview too.
 
 Getting at printNode, a function that the Adobe SVG viewer 
implements,
 from script in the HTML document is a bit convoluted, here is one
 example that works for me with IE 6 and Adobe SVG viewer 3:
 http://home.arcor.de/martin.honnen/svg/test2006020601.html
 
 You could also put script in the SVG document that exports the
 printNode function with e.g.
   parent.svgPrintNode = printNode
 and then call 
   svgPrintNode(yourNode)
 with script in the HTML document in IE with the Adobe viewer.







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[svg-developers] mouse dblclick event

2006-02-09 Thread ilker
how do I get mouse dblclick event?

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs

2006-02-09 Thread Sean
Domenico,

First, thanks for pointing me to the resizable text wrap.  It was just 
what I needed.

With regards to the use tag,  I was hoping I could reuse a tspan element 
and modify the text for each use tag, but once I change tspan1, all the 
references would reflect it.  So using a tspan in the defs and reusing 
over and over for separate text boxes is not possible.

Sean

domenico_strazzullo wrote:

Sean,

Of course it's possible. You need to target the document and not 
just the element that makes the call:

function edit2(evt){
// var objet=evt.target;
   var objet = evt.target.ownerDocument;
   var tspan1 = objet.getElementById(tspan1); //Works
   tspan1.firstChild.data = NewText;
}

It works in IE7 and FF. I'm not sure the last line is what you want 
to do, just a guess, but tspan1 returns an object so you can do 
anything with it.

Domenico


--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rafter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Sean,

It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each 


browser. Try 
  

this code inside of your event:

 var target = evt.target;
  var use = null
 if (target == null) return;
 if (target.correspondingUseElement)
   use = target.correspondingUseElement;

This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in 


case it 
  

is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The 
correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of 
inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that 


you 
  

should be able to access

  use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable)

 From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which 


you can 
  

use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be 


able 
  

to use read only DOM properties. See

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance

Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the 


link 
  

specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced 


element 
  

by the specified ID.

Cheers,
Jeff Rafter

Sean wrote:


I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use 
  

tag.  I 
  

have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the 
  

g tag.  
  

I want to be able to navigate those elements.  I'm coming to the 
conclusion that it can't be done.

Sean

Peter Kalev wrote:

  

Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search 


for the
  

g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine 


for me...
  

Peter Kalev
Senior Developer,
SWF, LLC


-Original Message-
From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs

I should say navigate the use element.  I realize that it is 


read only, 
  

but I can't figure out how to do that.  Thanks.

Sean wrote:

 



Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement  
  

SVGElementInstance?
  

   

  

 



Thanks.

Sean

Sean wrote:



   

  

Hi Alastair,

Thanks for the input.  I figured as much with the id, but 
getElementByName didn't work either.  I was hoping that 


something
  

 



would 
 



work.  I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing 


works.  
  

objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that 


the
  

 



child 
 



nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the 


approaches
  

 



 



below useless, no pun intended.  My failure to get the use 


tags to
  

 



work 
 



would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 


210,000 tags.
  

 



I 
 



have quite the incentive to make it work.  Thanks.

var objet=evt.target;
alert(objet.childNodes.length);

var child = objet.firstChild;
i=0;
while(child != null){
childSibling = child.nextSibling;
alert(child.nodeType);
child = childSibling;
}

Sean

Alastair Fettes wrote:



  

 



You've made a fundamental mistake.  

1.  The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have 
  

multiple
  

   

  

copies)
 



of an definition.
2.  The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one 
  

attribute with a
  

specific value document wide (see xs:ID type -
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID).

So therefore you have a fundamental mistake.  The defs 
  

section and
  

   

  

the
 



id invalidate each other.

The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to 
  

getElementById(
  

useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan.  Maybe, i 
  

don't
  

guarantee it.

Alastair

--- In 

[svg-developers] Re: mouse dblclick event

2006-02-09 Thread Martin Honnen
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how do I get mouse dblclick event?

You might want to check the click event and the detail property of the
event object:
http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Events/events.html#Events-MouseEvent






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Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs

2006-02-09 Thread Sean
Jeff,

As of now, I realize I cannot use the use tags the way I thought I 
could, but I'm still curios.  Either I'm missing something or I don't 
get what is going on.  If I understand correctly, use = 
target.correspondingUseElement; should give me the use tag I clicked 
on.  Which means use.getAttribute(id); should return the id of the use 
tag.  I get id is null.  Should I be getting null or the id?  Thanks.

Sean

Jeff Rafter wrote:

Sean,

It can be done, it just has to be done differently in each browser. Try 
this code inside of your event:

 var target = evt.target;
   var use = null
 if (target == null) return;
 if (target.correspondingUseElement)
   use = target.correspondingUseElement;

This is a sure way to get the use element from the target (in case it 
is not correctly returned as an SVGElementInstance). The 
correspondingElement property is not itself reliable (because of 
inconsitent implementation interpretations). Once you have that you 
should be able to access

   use.instanceRoot, use.animatedInstanceRoot (less reliable)

 From that you should get a reliable SVGElementInstance on which you can 
use the correspondingElement property. Additionally you should be able 
to use read only DOM properties. See

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGElementInstance

Also, once you have the use element, you can simply follow the link 
specified in the URI reference or simply lookup the referenced element 
by the specified ID.

Cheers,
Jeff Rafter

Sean wrote:
  

I can get the use tag, I want to be able to navigate the use tag.  I 
have the use referencing a g tag with several elements under the g tag.  
I want to be able to navigate those elements.  I'm coming to the 
conclusion that it can't be done.

Sean

Peter Kalev wrote:



Why don't you wrap the use element in a g id=, search for the
g and then look for the use inside the g... Works fine for me...

Peter Kalev
Senior Developer,
SWF, LLC


-Original Message-
From: Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:21 AM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: use tag and unique IDs

I should say navigate the use element.  I realize that it is read only, 
but I can't figure out how to do that.  Thanks.

Sean wrote:

 

  

Does any one have examples of using SVGUseElement  SVGElementInstance?
   



 

  

Thanks.

Sean

Sean wrote:



   



Hi Alastair,

Thanks for the input.  I figured as much with the id, but 
getElementByName didn't work either.  I was hoping that something
 

  

would 
 

  

work.  I tried the childNodes and firstChild, but nothing works.  
objet.childNodes.length returns 0, which appears to mean that the
 

  

child 
 

  

nodes under the use tag don't get recognized, rendering the approaches
 

  

 

  

below useless, no pun intended.  My failure to get the use tags to
 

  

work 
 

  

would mean the difference between using 35,000 tags and 210,000 tags.
 

  

I 
 

  

have quite the incentive to make it work.  Thanks.

var objet=evt.target;
alert(objet.childNodes.length);

var child = objet.firstChild;
i=0;
while(child != null){
childSibling = child.nextSibling;
alert(child.nodeType);
child = childSibling;
}

Sean

Alastair Fettes wrote:



  

 

  

You've made a fundamental mistake.  

1.  The idea behind a defs section is to resuse (have multiple
   



copies)
 

  

of an definition.
2.  The idea of an ID attribute is to only have one attribute with a
specific value document wide (see xs:ID type -
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#ID).

So therefore you have a fundamental mistake.  The defs section and
   



the
 

  

id invalidate each other.

The only thing you could (possibly) do would be to getElementById(
useFrame2 ).childNodes.foo.bar to get the tspan.  Maybe, i don't
guarantee it.

Alastair

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 



   



I would like to use the use tags to save much text size as below.  
Problem is grabbing and editing data with onclick events.  The id


   

  

 

  

for my 


 



   



tspan would always be the same, but they would be used in different
 

  

use 
 

  

tags with unique IDs.  Is there a way to isolate say the tspan1
 

  

under 
 

  

useFrame2?

SVG
defs
g id=textFrame cat=textBox
text cat=textBox font-size=14 font=sans-serif tspan 
id=tspan1 cat=textBoxText/tspan/text
texttspan visibility=hidden id=tspan2/tspan/text
/g
/defs
use id=useFrame onclick=edit2(evt); xlink:href=#textFrame 
transform=translate(10,25)/
use id=useFrame2 onclick=edit2(evt); xlink:href=#textFrame 
transform=translate(10,50)/

JS
function edit2(evt){
var 

[svg-developers] Interesting interview with Miguel de Icaza cofounder of gnome

2006-02-09 Thread mobiform
Interesting interview with Miguel de Icaza cofounder of gnome, 
ximian and 
mono. The bottom of the article he talks about the biggest risk to 
the open 
source community and XAML 

Regards,

Ron DeSerranno
Mobiform Software Ltd.
http://www.mobiform.com

Download the Aurora XAML Designer Now!
http://www.mobiform.com/Eng/aurora.html


- The Article -

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/04/28/interview_with_miguel_de
_icaza_cofounder_of_gnome_ximian_and_mono.html


Q. What do you see as the greatest danger to the continuing adoption 
and 
progress of open source?

A. Microsoft realizes today that Linux is competing for some of the 
green 
pastures that it's been enjoying for so long; I think that Longhorn 
is a big 
attempt to take back what they owned before. Longhorn has kind of a 
scary 
technology called Avalon, which when compounded with another 
technology 
called XAML, it's fairly dangerous. And the reason is that they've 
made it so 
it's basically an HTML replacement. The advantage is it's probably 
as easy as 
writing HTML, so that means that anybody can produce this content 
with a text 
editor. 

It's basically an HTML Next Generation. A lot more widgets, a lot 
more 
flexibility, more richer experience - way, way richer experience. 
You get 
basically the native client experience with Web- like deployments. 
So you 
develop these extremely rich applications but they can be deployed 
as easily 
as the Web is. It's just like going to a URL: you go to Google, and 
you get 
the Web page and it works. So it's the same deployment model but the 
user 
interface interaction is just fantastic.

Of course, the only drawback is that this new interaction is 
completely tied 
to .Net and WinFX. So we see that as a very big danger. A lot of 
people today 
cannot migrate to Linux or cannot migrate to Mozilla because a lot 
of their 
internal Web sites happen to use IE extensions. Now imagine a world 
where you 
can only use XAML.

It's massive - I'm so scared







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[svg-developers] Google Maps to use svg

2006-02-09 Thread lakeuk
Looks like there is still life in the old dog (svg) yet, in the latest 
version of Google Maps code that developers can access through the 
Google Maps API, Google have added functions for using SVG with the 
maps.

http://jibbering.com/blog/?p=179
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Google-Maps-API





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[svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser

2006-02-09 Thread Tonny Kohar
Hi,

You could use Java AWT Toolkit to query Screen size.

Toolkit toolKit = Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit().getScreenSize()

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: get screen size in batik squiggle browser

2006-02-09 Thread senthilnathan kannan
Dear Andreas Neumann,
   
  I am not trying to get the screen width and height of the SVG canvas.Instead 
I am trying to get the computers sccreen resoultion and set the svg root's 
viewbox to match the computer screen resolution.
   
  I certainly appreciate your reply. Any further input will be helpful.
  

Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Nathan, 

the svg root element has the .viewport attribute for that purpose 
which is implemented in Batik. 

See the file below. 

a good resource to view the available SVG DOM methods and properties 
is btw http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/object.asp?id=133 - there aren't 
comments, but at least you see what is available and inherited. 

viewport example: 
-- 
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? 
!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; 
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% 
onload=viewportTest() 
script type=text/ecmascript 
  ![CDATA[ 
function viewportTest() { 
  var viewPort = 
document.documentElement.viewport; 
  
alert(viewPort.x+,+viewPort.y+,+viewPort.width+,+viewPort.height); 
} 
  ]] 
/script 
/svg 

Hope this helps, 
Andreas 

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 Hi all, 
  
 Is it possible to get the windows screen size(width and height 
in  
 pixles), in batik squiglle browser. For ex: in IE using javascript 
we  
 can say screen.width and screen.height to access the windows 
screen  
 size information, is there an equivalent command in batik? 
  
 Any help is greatly appreciated. 
  
 Thanks 
 Nathan. 
 







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