Re: [svg-developers] how to set the attribute xlink:href of USE element through using javascript
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:48:50 +0200, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please try u.setAttributeNS(http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;, href,#myRect); This should also work: u.href.baseVal = #myRect; Cheers /Erik -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] onload event is not firing when image added via script
Hello chaps, I'm playing around with SVG on Opera (fun!), but I'm having trouble with the onload event - I'd like to be notified when an image I add (through the DOM) has loaded, as per the example below. But in Opera 9.23 it doesn't appear to do the onload. Am I misinterpreting how onload is supposed to work? Is it a bug or feature-to-be-implemented in Opera? (What I want to do is display a movie one frame at a time so that there aren't any visual glitches - I figure I need to display an image, load the new image in front with display=none, and when the new image has finished loading change the display to inline and remove the old image from behind). Cheers, Andrew. In the below example, I would expect (provided test.jpg is in the correct place) first an alert foo, then an alert bar. However, only the first event is triggered. ?xml version=1.0? svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; version=1.1 viewBox=0 0 200 200 onload=init() script type=text/ecmascript ![CDATA[ function init() { var img1 = document.createElement(image); img1.setAttribute('height', 100); img1.setAttribute('width', 100); img1.setAttribute('onload', alert('bar');); img1.setAttributeNS('http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink', 'xlink:href', 'test.jpg'); document.getElementById(test).appendChild(img1); } ]] /script g id=test/ image x=100 y=0 height=100 width=100 onload=alert('foo'); xlink:href=test.jpg/ /svg - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] onload event is not firing when image added via script
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:38:21 +0200, shellshear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello chaps, I'm playing around with SVG on Opera (fun!), but I'm having trouble with the onload event - I'd like to be notified when an image I add (through the DOM) has loaded, as per the example below. But in Opera 9.23 it doesn't appear to do the onload. Am I misinterpreting how onload is supposed to work? Is it a bug or feature-to-be-implemented in Opera? It worked fine if I switched the setAttribute(onload) bit for this: img1.addEventListener(load, function() { alert('bar'); }, false); FF2 behaves the same as Opera here, and Safari 3.0.2 strangely reported more than a few load events. Not sure if there should be a difference between setting onload and registering an eventlistener, will follow up on that. Cheers /Erik -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] animating gradientTransform with SMIL? ASV bug?
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:41:27 +0200, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After building the page at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4h.svg (visible in either IE/ASV or Opera 9.23), I decided it would be cool to let the various linear gradients rotate, sort of like in http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4i.svg (you may have to wait a moment after the grid is built for the SMIL to start) -- but this uses linearGradient id=g fy=0 gradientTransform=rotate(45 .5 .5) animate attributeName=x1 dur=5s values=0; 1 repeatCount=indefinite/ animate attributeName=y2 dur=7s values=0; 1; 0 repeatCount=indefinite/ [...] instead of what I wanted to do: linearGradient id=g fy=0 gradientTransform=rotate(45 .5 .5) animate attributeName=gradientTransform dur=5s values='rotate(0 .5 .5)'; 'rotate(360 .5 .5)' repeatCount=indefinite/ My reading of the SVG1.1 spec suggests that gradientTransform should be animateable but the instance of it at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4j.svg only works in Opera (not in IE) -- is this a bug in IE/ASV, as I rather suspect, or am I doing something wrong? The test-results here says that ASV can animate gradientTransform: http://olaf.kilu.de/svgtest/index.php?in=ntattributes#grapa Is there a list of known bugs in IE/ASV ? Some can be found here: http://wiki.svg.org/Known_Bugs Cheers /Erik -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Xml2PDF Server 2007 version 1.1 is released
Altsoft is proud to announce the release of Xml2PDF Server 2007 version 1.1 and the accompanying family of products. In addition to new features and enchancements the release includes a new product Xml2PDF Commander 2007 that provides the command line interface to Xml2PDF Server 2007. Altsoft Xml2PDF 2007 is a family of products for automatic conversion of Microsoft Word 2003-2007, XSL-FO, SVG and XHTML documents into PDF, XPS, PS and TIFF output. It contains now the free Xml2PDF Workstation 2007 for desktop use, the commercial Xml2PDF Server 2007 (.NET API), and the new Xml2PDF Commander 2007 for server use via command line interface. The major new features of Xml2PDF 2007 version 1.1 are: - VML line-art support for Microsoft Word 2003-2007 - Generation of PDF output conforming PDF/A or PDF/X specifications The new Xml2PDF Commander 2007 is distributed as a stand-alone command-line application or as a free add-on to Xml2PDF Server 2007. It also provides integration with Gradual SWITCH 07, the document workflow automation solution. Please, visit Gradual Software web site at http://www.gradual.com/ to explore new opportunities in integrating Altsoft Xml2PDF Server 2007 into complex automation workflows. The free Xml2PDF Workstation 2007 and the trial versions of Xml2PDF Server 2007 and Commander 2007 are available for download at http://www.alt-soft.com/Downloads.aspx . Please, visit Altsoft web site at http://www.alt- soft.com/Products.aspx for more information on Xml2PDF family of products. Altsoft S.A. http://alt-soft.com/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: onload event is not firing when image added via script
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, shellshear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: function init() { var img1 = document.createElement(image); img1.setAttribute('height', 100); img1.setAttribute('width', 100); img1.setAttribute('onload', alert('bar');); img1.setAttributeNS('http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink', 'xlink:href', 'test.jpg'); document.getElementById(test).appendChild(img1); } Consider using namespace aware DOM methods when scripting SVG: var svgNs = http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;; var img1 = document.createElementNS(svgNs, image); img1.setAttributeNS(null, 'height', 100); img1.setAttributeNS(null, 'width', 100); img1.addEventListener('load', function (evt) { alert('loaded'); }, false); img1.setAttributeNS('http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink', 'xlink:href', 'kiboInside.gif'); document.getElementById(test).appendChild(img1); } That way (using addEventListener (as already pointed out)) the code works with Mozilla and Opera - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: animating gradientTransform with SMIL? ASV bug?
To animate transform values you need to use an animateTransform element try: animateTransform attributeName=gradientTransform dur=5s repeatCount=indefinite type=rotate values=0 .5 .5;360 .5 .5/ that should work. Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After building the page at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4h.svg (visible in either IE/ASV or Opera 9.23), I decided it would be cool to let the various linear gradients rotate, sort of like in http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4i.svg (you may have to wait a moment after the grid is built for the SMIL to start) -- but this uses linearGradient id=g fy=0 gradientTransform=rotate(45 .5 .5) animate attributeName=x1 dur=5s values=0; 1 repeatCount=indefinite/ animate attributeName=y2 dur=7s values=0; 1; 0 repeatCount=indefinite/ [...] instead of what I wanted to do: linearGradient id=g fy=0 gradientTransform=rotate(45 .5 .5) animate attributeName=gradientTransform dur=5s values='rotate(0 .5 .5)'; 'rotate(360 .5 .5)' repeatCount=indefinite/ My reading of the SVG1.1 spec suggests that gradientTransform should be animateable but the instance of it at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/triangles4j.svg only works in Opera (not in IE) -- is this a bug in IE/ASV, as I rather suspect, or am I doing something wrong? Is there a list of known bugs in IE/ASV ? David - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: onload event is not firing when image added via script
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if there should be a difference between setting onload and registering an eventlistener, will follow up on that. Cheers /Erik Erik While you're looking into that, see: http://brian.sol1.net/svg/tests/deferred-tree.xhtml Opera's failure to run the above properly seems related. Thanks! Bruce - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Using acute accent
Andrew á could be either #225; or #0225; - the decimal versions. For reasons I don't understand the hex versions - #X21; #X021; - do not work. Jerry Thank you, Jerry. I wonder how I convert all the characters I get from the users via the internet into the #0233 form? Let's say I get a http request with acute accented a (code 0xE1 or 225 decimal). Will it be safe if I represent it as #225 in my svg code? Thank you, Andrew - Original Message From: Jerrold Maddox mailto:jxm22%40psu.edu[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.comsvg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 2:18:28 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Using acute accent Andrew Unicode is the best bet I find - for e with an acute accent try: #0233; And see if it works. Jerry Hi I am new to SVG so please bear with me :) When I convert my ttf to svg in the output svg file there are no references to acute accent (probably the way it should be) Now when I try to create a text with an accented letter I got no letter at all in some systems or a square character on other. Could you please point me to some resource which describes how to deal with the accented letters? Thank you, Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
[svg-developers] SVG Map Prototype from Electricite de France
I'd like to share this presenation from the FOSS4G conference: http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations/view.php?abstract_id=213 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Google searching for SVGs now on?
Google searching for SVGs now on? anyone else spot that SVG is now recognised? eg a search for heavy snow svg does rank... and there are interesting cultural contrasts which will provide much to consider... this copyright statement which was new to me: This image is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain, because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/画像:Japanese_Weather_symbol_ (Heavy_snow).svg regards Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Google searching for SVGs now on?
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ~:'' ãããã¨ããããã¾ããã [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google searching for SVGs now on? anyone else spot that SVG is now recognised? eg a search for heavy snow svg does rank... Well, filetype:svg has worked for quite a while now (almost a year, maybe?). So I don't think this is anything new. Thanks, --kirby - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] oops -- was Google searching for SVGs now on?
Nope I was wrong -- I thought the link provided by a search for hello here is some text lying along a bezier curve pointed to an svg document, but it turns out it pointed to an HTML document that I forgot I had left laying around somewhere. It looks as though the text inside SVG documents is not being indexed by Google, unless someone knows otherwise. David - Original Message - From: ddailey To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Google searching for SVGs now on? Additionally, I seem to recall someone mentioning that contents of text within an SVG document are included in the Google results. A Google search on hello here is some text lying along a bezier curve would confirm this to be true, but I don't know for how long this has worked. David - Original Message - From: skatethere To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Google searching for SVGs now on? --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ~:'' ã‚ã‚ŠãŒã¨ã†ãã–ã„ã¾ã—ãŸã€‚ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google searching for SVGs now on? anyone else spot that SVG is now recognised? eg a search for heavy snow svg does rank... Well, filetype:svg has worked for quite a while now (almost a year, maybe?). So I don't think this is anything new. Thanks, --kirby [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/