Re: [svg-developers] obscure things like

[Erik Dahlstrom]

On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 23:26:54 +0200, t...@ymail.com  wrote:

> I successfully tested my freshly written path data parser against the  
> paths found in the "paths-data-##-t.svg" files of the 1.2 Tiny test  
> suite.  But I wonder whether I also have to take into account obscure  
> things like
>
>   

Right, parsing that should give you the coordinates:

   "0.", ".0", ".1" and "2".

> I tested it with Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Batik/Squiggle, librsvg and  
> Inkscape.  Only Chrome does not render it.

Sounds like a bug in Chrome then.

> If a path like this is legal, I think there should be a test case in the  
> test suite, shouldn't it?

It's always nice to be thorough, sure. Have you found any other edge-cases  
like this one while writing your path parser?

Cheers
/Erik

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[svg-developers] Re: obscure things like

[t...@ymail.com]

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Dahlstrom"  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 23:26:54 +0200, t...@...  wrote:
> [...]
> > things like
> >
> >   
> 
> Right, parsing that should give you the coordinates:
> 
>"0.", ".0", ".1" and "2".
> 

That's clear, that's the only possible interpretation.  I only wanted to know 
whether this is covered by the EBNF description found in the specs.

> > I tested it with Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Batik/Squiggle, librsvg and  
> > Inkscape.  Only Chrome does not render it.
> 
> Sounds like a bug in Chrome then.
> 
> > If a path like this is legal, I think there should be a test case in the  
> > test suite, shouldn't it?
> 
> It's always nice to be thorough, sure. Have you found any other edge-cases  
> like this one while writing your path parser?
> 

No, that's the only thing I noticed.  If I discover more, I'll tell you here.

Thomas W.





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Re: [svg-developers] Re: obscure things like

[Bjoern Hoehrmann]

* t...@ymail.com wrote:
>That's clear, that's the only possible interpretation.  I only wanted to
>know whether this is covered by the EBNF description found in the specs.

It is.
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[svg-developers] Re: obscure things like

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--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bjoern Hoehrmann  wrote:
>
> * t...@... wrote:
> >That's clear, that's the only possible interpretation.  I only wanted to
> >know whether this is covered by the EBNF description found in the specs.
> 
> It is.

Thanks!

Grüße
Thomas W.





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Re: Ответ: [svg-developers] A pleasant surpri se

[Andrew Matseevsky]

--- ðÎ, 4.10.10, ddailey  ÐÉÛÅÔ:

> ïÔ: ddailey 
> ôÅÍÁ: Re: ïÔ×ÅÔ: [svg-developers] A pleasant surprise
> ëÏÍÕ: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
> äÁÔÁ: ðÏÎÅÄÅÌØÎÉË, 4 ÏËÔÑÂÒØ 2010, 6:07
> Hi Andrei,
> 
> I tried the link here, but was told "file not found" --
> looks like you moved 
> it somewhere else?
> 
> cheers
> David

Looks like I didn't put this file to my site at all! Sorry, take it now.
Regards, Andrew.



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Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE9 and ASV

[David Leunen]

> There's only one FakeSmile library and, though it hasn't shown much
> activity in quite awhile, maybe someone will help improve it now that we
> know IE9 won't support SMIL. http://leunen.d.free.fr/fakesmile/


The feature list can be found at
http://leunen.d.free.fr/fakesmile/status.html
It's true I have found some time to fix some bugs, but haven't added any
feature for a while.
Though, I just installed IE9 beta yesterday, and I had time to test three
animated SVG's. It seemed to work, but the memory consumption was
dramatically high. Can anyone confirm ? Does anyone know a good debugging
tool for this kind of issue ?



Those are the only two alternatives that I'm really aware of.
>

I think this is interesting and related :
Fabien Cazenave developed "Timesheet
Scheduler":
a JavaScript implementation of SMIL/Timing and SMIL/Timesheets.
Along with a Timesheet Editor for Kompozer.


David


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[svg-developers] character to path data in SVG

[ddailey]

I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM interface or function in SVG that 
takes as input a character (i.e., a text string of length one) rendered in a 
given font-family and returns the path coordinates of the outline of that 
object. (something like "w".toPath(ariel, 100) --> "0,0 50,100 100,0 150,100 
200,0 200,5 150,105, 100,5 50,105 0,5 z"  Certainly we can get its bounding 
box, and certainly there are utilities in Inkscape and Illustrator to do that, 
but how about in plain old SVG with JavaScript? I would like to make some 
pseudo-random distortions to a typeface but can't remember the command, if 
there ever was one. 

sheepishly
David

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Re: [svg-developers] character to path data in SVG

[Bjoern Hoehrmann]

* ddailey wrote:
>I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM interface or function in
>SVG that takes as input a character (i.e., a text string of length one)
>rendered in a given font-family and returns the path coordinates of the
>outline of that object. (something like "w".toPath(ariel, 100) --> "0,0
>50,100 100,0 150,100 200,0 200,5 150,105, 100,5 50,105 0,5 z"  Certainly
>we can get its bounding box, and certainly there are utilities in
>Inkscape and Illustrator to do that, but how about in plain old SVG with
>JavaScript? I would like to make some pseudo-random distortions to a
>typeface but can't remember the command, if there ever was one. 

There is no such function in SVG 1.1 or SVG Tiny 1.2. Also note that a
glyph is not necessarily a single path, with SVG fonts you can have more
or less arbitrary content to make up a glyph.
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[svg-developers] Re: character to path data in SVG

[jeff_schiller]

What Bjoern said.

By the way, I would like to see this functionality exposed at some point in the 
future so that web-based graphical editors (like SVG-edit) can convert SVG text 
to paths...

Jeff

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bjoern Hoehrmann  wrote:
>
> * ddailey wrote:
> >I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM interface or function in
> >SVG that takes as input a character (i.e., a text string of length one)
> >rendered in a given font-family and returns the path coordinates of the
> >outline of that object. (something like "w".toPath(ariel, 100) --> "0,0
> >50,100 100,0 150,100 200,0 200,5 150,105, 100,5 50,105 0,5 z"  Certainly
> >we can get its bounding box, and certainly there are utilities in
> >Inkscape and Illustrator to do that, but how about in plain old SVG with
> >JavaScript? I would like to make some pseudo-random distortions to a
> >typeface but can't remember the command, if there ever was one. 
> 
> There is no such function in SVG 1.1 or SVG Tiny 1.2. Also note that a
> glyph is not necessarily a single path, with SVG fonts you can have more
> or less arbitrary content to make up a glyph.
> -- 
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: character to path data in SVG

[ddailey]

What Jeff said.

Ditto.

David
  - Original Message - 
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  To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:40 PM
  Subject: [svg-developers] Re: character to path data in SVG



  What Bjoern said.

  By the way, I would like to see this functionality exposed at some point in 
the future so that web-based graphical editors (like SVG-edit) can convert SVG 
text to paths...

  Jeff

  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bjoern Hoehrmann  wrote:
  >
  > * ddailey wrote:
  > >I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM interface or function in
  > >SVG that takes as input a character (i.e., a text string of length one)
  > >rendered in a given font-family and returns the path coordinates of the
  > >outline of that object. (something like "w".toPath(ariel, 100) --> "0,0
  > >50,100 100,0 150,100 200,0 200,5 150,105, 100,5 50,105 0,5 z" Certainly
  > >we can get its bounding box, and certainly there are utilities in
  > >Inkscape and Illustrator to do that, but how about in plain old SVG with
  > >JavaScript? I would like to make some pseudo-random distortions to a
  > >typeface but can't remember the command, if there ever was one. 
  > 
  > There is no such function in SVG 1.1 or SVG Tiny 1.2. Also note that a
  > glyph is not necessarily a single path, with SVG fonts you can have more
  > or less arbitrary content to make up a glyph.
  > -- 
  > Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjo...@... · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de
  > Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de
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