[svg-developers] Re: Introducing me and my SVG toy

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
Nice work.  These blots are great and as my art professor might have 
said, "titillating, but verging on the obscene".
http://blotbot.co/#ee0197ca
http://blotbot.co/#3521f9f9

And then our psych profs would remind us of the purpose of the 
rorschach.  Thus far the svg programming community has had a 
disproportionate number of left-handed dual-brained good-humored and 
generally good-hearted folks which has been great.  In 2011 I think svg 
will hit the masses due to economics which might dilute our creativity - 
but its an open standard after-all :-)
Best.




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[svg-developers] Re: Strategy for text input

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
ForeignObject seems like the ideal tag to use for inserting Html content 
within Svg, however I believe IE9 does not (will not?) support the 
ForeignObject tag.  The logic there it seems is that http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=65616

Here are a few decent resources for mixing Svg and Html:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#scripting_HTML
http://www.schepers.cc/svg/blendups/scriptbridge/scriptbridge-insertBug.html

This has been a useful little script and works well for a lot of scenarios:
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/textbox/index.svg

Best.



On 1/19/2011 2:47 PM, gb_n_svg wrote:
> Thomas
>
> Thank you for the advice.
> I wondered if something like that might be an answer, (my colleagues did that 
> with a complex X-Windows UI, but that was 16 years ago!) so now I know!-)
> (Not the answer I had hoped for :-)
>
> I assume I need to define the XHTML name space, and then use that within my 
> SVG?
>
> Thanks again
> GB-)
>
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "th_w@..."  wrote:
>>
>> I tried something similar some time ago, and it's a pain.  I'm not sure 
>> whether you can at all detect all possible keystrokes correctly, not to 
>> speak of accented characters and such.  I'd probably go with an HTML  
>> field inside a  right now, since the editable text currently 
>> is only supported by Opera, I believe.  I would replace the 
>> to-be-edited-text with an, and when editing is done, I would swap 
>> back the text element with updated content.  I didn't try it, but I think it 
>> should be possible.
>
>
>>
>> Thomas W.




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[svg-developers] Re: Need Help to rotate the svg element

2011-02-03 Thread Holger Jeromin
Jacob Beard schrieb am 03.02.2011 17:13:

> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, John Delacour  wrote:
>> At 16:16 + 31/01/2011, fyrd_svg wrote:
>>> SVG elements don't allow the transform attribute and thus cannot be
>>> directly rotated. Simple workaround to this is to wrap the SVG
>>> element in a  and rotate it. For example:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Unless I'm missing something crucial, that simply is not the case.
>> Any element can be transformed. It may well be convenient or
>> desirable to do a part or all or the transformations at  level,
>> but there is no law against transforming any element by itself.
>> Since the original poster wrote simply "i need help on SVG element
>> Rotation...", that's all the help he gets for the moment.
> Alexis is actually correct, and it's in the spec. See the DOM interfaces to
> SVGSVGElement versus SVGGElement:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGSVGElement
> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGGElement
> 
> SVGGElement extends SVGTransformable, whereas SVGSVGElement does not. His
> solution is the way I would approach this.

The mailtext was: "i need help on SVG element Rotation", but the
title was "rotate the svg element".
So it could be interpreted, as he wants to rotate the -element
(which is not rotateable) and not an other element like text, rect,
circle (which is).

-- 
best regards
Holger





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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Need Help to rotate the svg element

2011-02-03 Thread Jacob Beard
Hi John,

Alexis is actually correct, and it's in the spec. See the DOM interfaces to
SVGSVGElement versus SVGGElement:

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGSVGElement
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/struct.html#InterfaceSVGGElement

SVGGElement extends SVGTransformable, whereas SVGSVGElement does not. His
solution is the way I would approach this.

Cheers,

Jake

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, John Delacour  wrote:

>
>
> At 16:16 + 31/01/2011, fyrd_svg wrote:
>
> >SVG elements don't allow the transform attribute and thus cannot be
> >directly rotated. Simple workaround to this is to wrap the SVG
> >element in a  and rotate it. For example:
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>
> Unless I'm missing something crucial, that simply is not the case.
> Any element can be transformed. It may well be convenient or
> desirable to do a part or all or the transformations at  level,
> but there is no law against transforming any element by itself.
> Since the original poster wrote simply "i need help on SVG element
> Rotation...", that's all the help he gets for the moment.
>
> JD
>  
>


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[svg-developers] Re: Preliminary information on SVG Open 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
Sure, I'm happy to hit up the MS folks to see what software they might 
offer as well as coordinate w/ the River Valley folks.

And that's great news regarding the Androids - my nephew has really 
liked them and now I'm starting to like them more.  Never thought I'd 
ever write that last sentence - never trust a robot :-)





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[svg-developers] Re: Need Help to rotate the svg element

2011-02-03 Thread John Delacour
At 16:16 + 31/01/2011, fyrd_svg wrote:


>SVG elements don't allow the transform attribute and thus cannot be 
>directly rotated. Simple workaround to this is to wrap the SVG 
>element in a  and rotate it. For example:
>
>
>  
>

Unless I'm missing something crucial, that simply is not the case. 
Any element can be transformed. It may well be convenient or 
desirable to do a part or all or the transformations at  level, 
but there is no law against transforming any element by itself. 
Since the original poster wrote simply "i need help on SVG element 
Rotation...", that's all the help he gets for the moment.

JD




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Re: [svg-developers] SVG in Android 3.0 Honeycomb?

2011-02-03 Thread Jacob Beard
Very good news.

Jake

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Andi Neumann  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> Got this link from Jeff Schiller:
> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/02/android-honeycombs-browser-supports-svg.html
>
> Note that it is not an official announcement by Google, but it is likely
> that the newer Webkit releases in Android 3.0 will have SVG enabled,
> finally. Makes sense in my opinion and I am surprised it did not happen
> earlier.
>
> Andreas
>
>  
>


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[svg-developers] SVG in Android 3.0 Honeycomb?

2011-02-03 Thread Andi Neumann
Hi,

Got this link from Jeff Schiller: 
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/02/android-honeycombs-browser-supports-svg.html

Note that it is not an official announcement by Google, but it is likely that 
the newer Webkit releases in Android 3.0 will have SVG enabled, finally. Makes 
sense in my opinion and I am surprised it did not happen earlier.

Andreas





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[svg-developers] Re: Preliminary information on SVG Open 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Andi Neumann
Hi Jon,

I am still involved with the organization of SVG Open 2011 (we'll have some 
updates soon).

I personally have no experience with Video at all. However, when we are at this 
stage in the organization we will have a look at the options we have regarding 
video recording, including Tegrity.

Would you volunteer in organizing something or do you know someone who would be 
interested in helping?

I wasn't personally in touch with the River Valley folks. It was organized by 
Paris Télécom. I think it would be natural to ask them as well. We could also 
investigate what Microsoft could offer, since it is hosted at their campus.

All pretty much open at this stage.

Thanks for the pointer,
Andreas

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jon Frost  wrote:
>
> Several of the 2010 SVG talks were really well done.  The sound of the 
> speakers was a little soft in several of the videos, but its great 
> nonetheless.
> 
> I have been seeing the Tegrity presentation/lecture software used more 
> of late (http://www.tegrity.com/) and this software does an excellent 
> job of matching the slides to the lecture with bookmarks to enable 
> linking directly to specific topics/chapters within the lecture(s).
> 
> I am not sure which browsers Tegrity support though.  I wanted to 
> recommend that for this next conference we look into the possibility of 
> using Tegrity or a similar tool.  Suggestions on other lecture software? 
>   Andi N., are you in contact with the River Valley folks?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Jon
>






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