Re: [svg-developers] ANN: StateCharts Interpretation and Optimization eNgine (SCION) (or scxml-js++)

2011-12-01 Thread Jon Frost
One thing I noticed is that in your drag-and-drop.xhtml sample, and you
probably know this already, but w/ the event listener attached to the
rectangle the drag/drop does not work all too well because the shape is
often dropped by accident simply because the mouse often moves faster than
the shape.  I am on a slower computer though - just wanted to mention it.
 As I think you know, registering the event on the parent svg usually
resolves that issue, and you may even have that as a config option already.

Best of luck with the thesis.

 Jon


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Re: [svg-developers] Re: replicate

2011-11-30 Thread Jon Frost
D3 is definitely picking up steam, and is found in a wide range of
projects.  I actually proposed the idea of a replicate module or plugin
to Mike B. about 5 months ago after I saw that D3 is already designed to
make it easy do much of what declarative replicate does.  Mike said he is
all for the development of modules and plugins and he helps when he can via
the d3 list.

D3 already makes it easy to do several things that Replicate proposed such
as smooth interpolations of shapes, colors, and multiple properties and
attributes over space and over time.  This is a quick demo I put together
based on something else that Mike had done - http://bl.ocks.org/1216850.

The first step would be to determine all that d3 cannot yet do and go from
there, and also discuss the replicate namespace, and how best to integrate
w/ the declarative Replication and Animation syntax.  D3 does not use the
declarative SMIL syntax for animation - it uses scripted transitions
instead as shown here - http://bl.ocks.org/1345853

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Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space

2011-10-31 Thread Jon Frost
Good idea.  Quite a few folks have developed svg-related websites over the
years but as you say, there is no solid centralized up-to-date wiki
resource.

Making use of google docs might be ideal in that it includes a drawing
editor which is based on SVG, and provides solid authentication as well.  I
think custom domain names can be setup on google that integrate with google
docs, but I am not sure whether wiki's, and custom PHP apps can be hosted
along-side a google-docs enabled website.  Hopefully Neil Frasier knows
more about this.

Having a website with a .org extension is a little better for inviting
collaboration and wiki-updates   Some domain names that might be good for
this:
planetsvg.org or .com
svgelves.org or .com
svg-developers.org or .com
svgrocks.org or .com
The last first two already have decent search engine ranking.

No one person has time to do the job, but the wiki community likely has
plenty of time to create something useful.  This effort would likely be
complimentary to the w3c+dev.Opera material that has been mentioned.

Jon


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Re: [svg-developers] normalizedPathSegList

2011-10-22 Thread Jon Frost
Another really useful site is a viewer for code posted to
gist.github.comwhich is
http://bl.ocks.org

For example, you can view my fun SVG example from gist -
https://gist.github.com/1216850
displayed automatically here - http://bl.ocks.org/1216850  (Note, this runs
a little slow in ffox.)

This is more nice work from the inventor / coder Mike Bostock.  I had
started doing something like this for the community on svgelves.com 10 years
ago, but I didn't quite make it easy enough to upload and display the SVGs.
Github is a great code-sharing site and bl.ocks.org just takes advantage of
that really well.

Enjoy.


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Re: [svg-developers] SVG Open, day one...

2011-10-22 Thread Jon Frost
Thanks for the recap David as I missed day 1 as well.  One of the best
aspects of the conference was that there were a lot of interesting a
good-natured folks around.  As usual though, unfortunately we could only
attend some of the talks.

It sounds like the most of the session videos will be available on
svgopen.org within a month.  There will likely be an announcement to this
list at that time.

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Re: [svg-developers] SVG Open, day one...

2011-10-22 Thread Jon Frost
Yes, we're supposed to receive the video's for the talks from the MSoft
folks within 2 weeks.
The d3-specific list has been fairly active over the last 2 months actually
-
http://groups.google.com/group/d3-js

The main d3 website can be found here http://d3js.org with the API and
examples located here - http://mbostock.github.com/d3/api/

A decent video on the specific topic of force-directed visualizations along
with the excellent slides can be found here - http://vimeo.com/29458354

It is jQuery-like but better designed for SVG in many ways and there is a
lot of potential for building SVG UI widgets with D3 as well.  Developers
just need to coordinate to get it started - I think Mike is working out how
best to design the widget architecture, but the d3 library is already
designed to be modular.


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Re: [svg-developers] Point at N distance along a path?

2011-10-09 Thread Jon Frost
There is a short writeup on this here:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#getTotalLength

And decent examples here:
http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/getPointAtLength.svg
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialScripting/example/getPointAtLength.svg

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: national flags for use in db? perhaps ip-to-country.csv

2011-10-09 Thread Jon Frost
The SVG looks really clean too - keep up the good work:
http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/svg/flags/flag.libya.svg


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Re: [svg-developers] Problem loading javascript file in Adobe SVG viewer

2011-07-30 Thread Jon Frost
The issue might be that the PHP code that generates your .js script might
need to specify that it is returning a file of Content-type text/ecmascript
.

I suggest asking your hosting company to check this out for you - often they
are happy to help.

Best of luck.
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: CfC: SVG Compatibility Chart and Checker

2011-07-22 Thread Jon Frost
This is a very useful tool, thanks - http://qa-dev.w3.org/~bjoern/svgcc/.
Adding a little description about the tool on that page will help the users
that I point to it.

The overlapping gradients example, is interesting and is similar the
electron wave patterns example I was playing with earlier this year -
planning to incorporate svg-replicate into it.

Firefox 5 and Opera 11.5 fair pretty well with your example.  GPU-enable
browsers often do perform better so you may just need to upgrade to the
latest versions if possible in your environments -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/opera-firefox-chrome,2976.html
BTW, you have a cool first name, IMO.  A short bit about e-wave patterns
here - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/ewav.html

   best,
 Jon


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Re: [svg-developers] Chrome Path Mouseover

2011-07-20 Thread Jon Frost
Ah, the good old days of ASV3.  There is much more interested in SVG these
days because it is built into browsers, but ASV was very well built.

Maybe there would be interest in an ASV fan club event where we discuss the
good old days, similar to the Moosefest - http://www.moosefest.org/  :-)




On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Sean Montague couloir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 http://greenworld.org/chrome-test.svg

 With chrome you need to move the mouse around until you hit the sweet
 spot. FF works well, but is so sensitive its hard to keep mouseover. IE
 with the old ASV 3 plugin is still the best, which I'm trying to
 mothball. I can't test IE9.

 Thanks!
 Sean



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Re: [svg-developers] SVG SMIL on HoneyComb

2011-07-06 Thread Jon Frost
I do not have a newer tablet to test with yet but the latest Android sdk
(version 3.1) is available here -
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

And you can review the SVG capabilities in the SDK's built-in emulator -
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html

Though this does not help with assessing SMIL speed performance on an actual
tablet, should give you a good review of the capabilities.


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[svg-developers] Re: a brick pattern

2011-02-11 Thread Jon Frost
Since this is great stuff, I am updating the svg-replicate project with 
all of the various types of replicate samples I have seen.  Folks, send 
over your interesting creations.

Nice job once again Prof. David D. - its great that you started adding 
the svgr namespace:  xmlns:svgr=http://granite.sru.edu/svgr;
svgr:replicate

I will update the older samples to use that namespace, and I'll work on 
adding named and hexadecimal color value support as well.
http://code.google.com/p/svg-replicate/
Thanks,
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[svg-developers] Release of SVG Web

2011-02-05 Thread Jon Frost
Just saw that there is a new release of SVG Web which support more SMIL 
and now supports IE9:   http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/





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[svg-developers] Re: Drawing a pie chart with only a list of coordinates

2011-02-05 Thread Jon Frost
I have seen a few options over the years, but some of them are not cheap:
http://xceed.com/Chart_ASP_NET_Features.html
http://www.dotnetcharting.com/versionhistory.aspx

This one appears to be free:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/web-image/svgChart.aspx

One of the best free charting/graphing solutions is provotis, but it is 
not .Net-specific - http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/

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[svg-developers] Re: Best SVG Editor...!!

2011-02-04 Thread Jon Frost
For previewing SVG in Html-Kit, it appears that the Adobe SVG Viewer 
plugin is required, apparently due to the embedded IE browser. 
Hopefully this will change when IE9 is released.

I think my brother met the developer of Html-Kit several years ago down 
on Florida.  I'll try to hit up the author on creating a version that 
allows us to select the preview browser, or at least create a version 
that previews with the *IE9 platform preview*.



On 10/9/2010 2:27 PM, ddailey wrote:
 The FA(q) question of the best editor sometimes means different things to
 different folks. Jacob hit the nail on the head for WYSIWYG /GUI editors.
 Inkscape and Illustrator push out a bit of gnarly pseudo-code that becomes a
 bit of a problem for scripting with it later, so SVG-Edit is better at
 creating cleaner code.

 For hand-coding I think the verdict is still out (see and contribute to
 [1] ).

 I've been using a fair amount of HTML-Kit in Windows, these days ever since
 they added a workable SVG plugin. This allows HTML-style markup with
 JavaScript and all-in-one preview capabilities.

 David

 [1]  http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Authoring_tools_and_editors




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[svg-developers] interesting new web app

2011-02-04 Thread Jon Frost
Just FYI,
this new SVG web app contains quite a few good examples including GIS 
features, handling foreignObject across browsers performing text input, 
dynamic loading message, and responsive display of lots of table data 
within SVG.  So far it is looking fairly well done - lots of script.

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2011Feb/0004.html
http://cpswass2.belvoir.army.mil/issue/employment.svg

It looks like there might be some videos as well, though I haven't found 
them.  36 openings in Hawaii.





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[svg-developers] Re: Preliminary information on SVG Open 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
Sure, I'm happy to hit up the MS folks to see what software they might 
offer as well as coordinate w/ the River Valley folks.

And that's great news regarding the Androids - my nephew has really 
liked them and now I'm starting to like them more.  Never thought I'd 
ever write that last sentence - never trust a robot :-)





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[svg-developers] Re: Strategy for text input

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
ForeignObject seems like the ideal tag to use for inserting Html content 
within Svg, however I believe IE9 does not (will not?) support the 
ForeignObject tag.  The logic there it seems is that div tags layered 
on top of the Svg should work just as well.  There has been mixed 
support for ForeignObject in other browsers as well such as:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=65616

Here are a few decent resources for mixing Svg and Html:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#scripting_HTML
http://www.schepers.cc/svg/blendups/scriptbridge/scriptbridge-insertBug.html

This has been a useful little script and works well for a lot of scenarios:
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/textbox/index.svg

Best.



On 1/19/2011 2:47 PM, gb_n_svg wrote:
 Thomas

 Thank you for the advice.
 I wondered if something like that might be an answer, (my colleagues did that 
 with a complex X-Windows UI, but that was 16 years ago!) so now I know!-)
 (Not the answer I had hoped for :-)

 I assume I need to define the XHTML name space, and then use that within my 
 SVG?

 Thanks again
 GB-)

 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, th_w@...th_w@...  wrote:

 I tried something similar some time ago, and it's a pain.  I'm not sure 
 whether you can at all detect all possible keystrokes correctly, not to 
 speak of accented characters and such.  I'd probably go with an HTMLinput  
 field inside aforeignObject  right now, since the editable text currently 
 is only supported by Opera, I believe.  I would replace the 
 to-be-edited-text with aninput, and when editing is done, I would swap 
 back the text element with updated content.  I didn't try it, but I think it 
 should be possible.



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[svg-developers] Re: Introducing me and my SVG toy

2011-02-03 Thread Jon Frost
Nice work.  These blots are great and as my art professor might have 
said, titillating, but verging on the obscene.
http://blotbot.co/#ee0197ca
http://blotbot.co/#3521f9f9

And then our psych profs would remind us of the purpose of the 
rorschach.  Thus far the svg programming community has had a 
disproportionate number of left-handed dual-brained good-humored and 
generally good-hearted folks which has been great.  In 2011 I think svg 
will hit the masses due to economics which might dilute our creativity - 
but its an open standard after-all :-)
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[svg-developers] Re: Animation

2011-02-02 Thread Jon Frost
Hi Baruch :
Mandalas are pretty cool.  I think your attached image may have been 
lost in transit due to the yahoo group settings.  Is this the image you 
are wanting to animate?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sri_Yantra_256bw.gif

Rotation and animation of lines and shapes is definitely possible with 
SVG.  Unfortunately, there are no great SVG/SMIL animation tools as of 
yet, but its not too difficult, and there are some useful svg libraries 
that help w/ animation.

Was your query answered or did you find a solution yet?  If not, then I 
can work on animating it with you as there are various options and 
considerations depending on the browsers you intend to use/support.

Best,
  Jon



On 1/28/2011 9:38 PM, Baruch Bashan wrote:
 Thank you for your answers!  I apologize for such a newbie question.
 I'd like to make the lines of the mandala move/rotate
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandala - page bottom).
 I'd like the effect to have all of the lines spinning.

 Can't seem to find how to do this.  Any suggestions??
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[svg-developers] Re: Preliminary information on SVG Open 2011

2011-02-01 Thread Jon Frost
Several of the 2010 SVG talks were really well done.  The sound of the 
speakers was a little soft in several of the videos, but its great 
nonetheless.

I have been seeing the Tegrity presentation/lecture software used more 
of late (http://www.tegrity.com/) and this software does an excellent 
job of matching the slides to the lecture with bookmarks to enable 
linking directly to specific topics/chapters within the lecture(s).
http://apollo.tegrityonline.com/tegrityUtils/InstructorViewer.aspx?directLink=1startTime=0currSessionGUID=923b5994-e20d-4f5f-a948-f921158ea8a6httpSessionKey=e235048f-eb86-4205-b19a-20f0fc53d8c7

I am not sure which browsers Tegrity support though.  I wanted to 
recommend that for this next conference we look into the possibility of 
using Tegrity or a similar tool.  Suggestions on other lecture software? 
  Andi N., are you in contact with the River Valley folks?

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[svg-developers] Re: Preliminary information on SVG Open 2011

2011-02-01 Thread Jon Frost
Several of the 2010 SVG talks were really well done.  The sound of the 
speakers was a little soft in several of the videos, but its great 
nonetheless.

I have been seeing the Tegrity presentation/lecture software used more 
of late (http://www.tegrity.com/) and this software does an excellent 
job of matching the slides to the lecture with bookmarks to enable 
linking directly to specific topics/chapters within the lecture(s).

I am not sure which browsers Tegrity support though.  I wanted to 
recommend that for this next conference we look into the possibility of 
using Tegrity or a similar tool.  Suggestions on other lecture software? 
  Andi N., are you in contact with the River Valley folks?

Thanks,
  Jon





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