Re: [svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
On Nov 30, 2005, at 04:49, Andreas Neumann wrote: It seems like Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with native SVG support is now officially released! Congratulations and many deeply heartfelt thanks to the FF SVG team! We know how hard it can be to implement SVG, especially with support for inlining inside other XML vocabularies and building on top of an existing system, and you've done a brilliant job. You guys rock the Web, -- Robin Berjon Senior Research Scientist Expway, http://expway.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi all, It seems like Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with native SVG support is now officially released! Congratulations to the Mozilla SVG team (Alex, Tim, Jonathan, etc.) for their great work. To my knowledge this is the first webbrowser that implements a good enough SVG and DOM subset to make SVG applications without having to rely on the ASV plugin. Mozilla SVG also supports HTML/SVG communication using ECMAscript. As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces, mimetypes and invalid DOM-methods. If your own examples fails it might well be the cause that you created somehow invalid content - please review Jonathan Watts guidelines: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ Of course there are also missing bits (patterns, text on path, SVG fonts, filters, SMIL animation, etc.) - those are partially addressed in the developers builds - and some missing DOM methods. Please report bugs to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ or http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.svg/ Thanks again to the Mozilla SVG team and please continue your good work! Andreas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi, On 30 nov. 2005, at 10:49, Andreas Neumann wrote: Mozilla SVG also supports HTML/SVG communication using ECMAscript. This is also what the W3C calls Coumpound Documents where different markups can be interleaved together so that a developer can always use what he/she feels is the best choice to handle a given problem. I'm very glad to see Firefox moving in that direction, and we already know for a fact that Opera and Safari/Konqeror are moving in the same direction. As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces, mimetypes and invalid DOM-methods. And we can only applaud the Firefox for going this way, everyone needs to have a strict environment to create better content. Long live SVG in Firefox! Antoine -- Antoine Quint Fuchsia Design SVG Client-side XML Consulting W3C SVG WG Invited Expert http://fuchsia-design.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Antoine, As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces, mimetypes and invalid DOM-methods. And we can only applaud the Firefox for going this way, everyone needs to have a strict environment to create better content. Seconded. Especially since, as you can see in this screenshot of Sidewinder validating and rendering an item from the W3C SVG test suite, not everyone produces valid content: ;) http://www.flickr.com/photos/mark-birbeck/61853700/ You'll see that we've taken the approach of actually attempting to render the document, even if it is invalid. In this screenshot, since the SVG plug-in is ignoring the validation error, we still get to see something. This behaviour is switchable, so that authors can use the browser in 'strict' mode whilst testing their documents, and end-users can use the browser in a 'lax' mode for viewing--otherwise, with so few valid documents around, there wouldn't be much on the web for people to browse! Best regards, Mark Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/ Download our XForms processor from http://www.formsPlayer.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi all, On 11/30/05, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with native SVG support is now officially released! It's worth mentioning that Mozilla Firefox 1.5 release candidate 3 became the official Mozilla Firefox 1.5 release, so if you downloaded rc3 then you're already using the official release. Congratulations to the Mozilla SVG team (Alex, Tim, Jonathan, etc.) for their great work. To my knowledge this is the first webbrowser that implements a good enough SVG and DOM subset to make SVG applications without having to rely on the ASV plugin. Thanks Andreas. :-) As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces, mimetypes and invalid DOM-methods. If your own examples fails it might well be the cause that you created somehow invalid content - please review Jonathan Watts guidelines: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ Absolutely. I know many people who contribute to this list have been fixing their SVG, but if you haven't already I'd encourage to you read that document. I'd also like to point out the FAQ and our SVG in Firefox 1.5 wiki document as other first ports of call if you experience problems with SVG not displaying as expected. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 Of course there are also missing bits (patterns, text on path, SVG fonts, filters, SMIL animation, etc.) - those are partially addressed in the developers builds - and some missing DOM methods. For a list of supported features see the SVG in Firefox 1.5 wiki document. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 Please report bugs to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ or http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.svg/ We'd very much appreciate if people who find bugs could do as much of the bug investigation/narrowing down as they possibly can themselves, and that bugs are filed in bugzilla. (If in doubt as to whether something is a bug, the newsgroup is a good place to ask.) This frees us from these tasks and allows us to concentrate our very limited resources on writing fixes. See http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#reporting-bugs Many thanks to all those people who have and continue to test and report problems. Thanks again to the Mozilla SVG team and please continue your good work! To help complete/improve the SVG implementation and get it to where we want it to be, we could always use some more help. We'd like to hear from anyone that's interested and able to write a bit of SVG, JavaScript, etc., but *especially* from people competent in C++ who could contribute to the implementation itself. Also please consider contributing to the SVG and Mozilla wikis. http://svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
