[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Well that was easy, we had to change type to gzip thanks --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, T Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/06 9:51 AM, Tim Hesse wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. Mozilla/Firefox's SVG will happily deal with svgz files if the server is providing them up with the appropriate content-encoding header. See this link for server configuration tips: http://wiki.svg.org/index.php?title=Server_Configuration Note that local (file:) svgz files will not load, due to this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52282 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
spoke too soon ... doesn't work grrr i hate messing with server configs. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that was easy, we had to change type to gzip thanks --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, T Rowley tor@ wrote: On 9/12/06 9:51 AM, Tim Hesse wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. Mozilla/Firefox's SVG will happily deal with svgz files if the server is providing them up with the appropriate content-encoding header. See this link for server configuration tips: http://wiki.svg.org/index.php?title=Server_Configuration Note that local (file:) svgz files will not load, due to this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52282 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all the doom and gloom coming with Adobe's announcement (which TOTALLY screws up the project I am working on), I have tested Opera's and Firefox's 'native' support of SVG, and here are my problems: * Neither one of them display our SVGs the same. The text is too large in one, and too small in the other. We tried changing font size from px to em, but the problem still remains. * setAttribute is not working at all in FF, and we get varying results in Opera. * Is there a way to pan in Opera? * Is there even a way to pan or zoom in FF? * We made great use of the ASV content menu, and now that goes away. I have been reading on everyone's rants about Adobe pulling the ASV, and I agree with most assessments. Having owned and run a business of my own, I can understand thoughts, but their thoughts are wrong, and I personally feel that it could have serious backlash financially as well as ethically. Adobe is starting to mimic Microsoft's rule at all costs mentality. It is all about money. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
On 9/12/06 9:51 AM, Tim Hesse wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. Mozilla/Firefox's SVG will happily deal with svgz files if the server is providing them up with the appropriate content-encoding header. See this link for server configuration tips: http://wiki.svg.org/index.php?title=Server_Configuration Note that local (file:) svgz files will not load, due to this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52282 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Tim, I'm not sure where this misconception arose, but Firefox does indeed support compressed svg (.svgz) files. You need to make sure your web server properly supports directives though. As per http://jwatt.org/ svg/authoring/#server-configuration, for Apache this means for the .svgz extension: Content-Type: image/svg+xml Content-Encoding: gzip Hope this helps, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece kmartin7@ wrote: With all the doom and gloom coming with Adobe's announcement (which TOTALLY screws up the project I am working on), I have tested Opera's and Firefox's 'native' support of SVG, and here are my problems: * Neither one of them display our SVGs the same. The text is too large in one, and too small in the other. We tried changing font size from px to em, but the problem still remains. * setAttribute is not working at all in FF, and we get varying results in Opera. * Is there a way to pan in Opera? * Is there even a way to pan or zoom in FF? * We made great use of the ASV content menu, and now that goes away. I have been reading on everyone's rants about Adobe pulling the ASV, and I agree with most assessments. Having owned and run a business of my own, I can understand thoughts, but their thoughts are wrong, and I personally feel that it could have serious backlash financially as well as ethically. Adobe is starting to mimic Microsoft's rule at all costs mentality. It is all about money. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
for Apache this means for the .svgz extension: Content-Type: image/svg+xml Content-Encoding: gzip Would anyone have the proper setting for Tomcat's web.xml ? TIA, Larry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Hi Lance that extension was build only using a text editor. i have some build script which packes the extension. as you allready found out both the xpi and the jar file are only renamed zips. the code is very messy currently. but if you like to hack on it anyways, i'm willing to send you my build scripts and talk you throu the code. What enhancements did you have in mind for it? i allready have a simple version here which uses a context menue instead of the toolbar. as for improvements i plan: - it would be nice to be able to draw a rect to which to zoom to - i like it to be more compatible to the ASV way of doing zoom and pan. - the options to zoom an pan should be disabled, if zoomAndPan = disabled. - also i was playing with the idea of implementing an UI for the SVG view spec. - yet another useful thing would be to include stelts bookmarklets. - saving the current state of the SVG or rasterize it and put it into the clipboard is possible, too. - but the most important enhancement would be to clean up the code, and comment it. and maybe write a documention for people who want to customize it. you see, there is still a lot to do. thanks for your interrest cheers Holger p.s.: check this site. its a nice toolbar extension tutorial. there are also some tools mentioned. http://www.borngeek.com/firefox/toolbar-tutorial/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Hi, I think these are the settings to look at: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/config/http.html Two attributes are needed assuming you wish to add additional mimetypes: compressableMimeType: The value is a comma separated list of MIME types for which HTTP compression may be used. The default value is text/html,text/xml,text/plain. compression: The Connector may use HTTP/1.1 GZIP compression in an attempt to save server bandwidth. The acceptable values for the parameter is off (disable compression), on (allow compression, which causes text data to be compressed), force (forces compression in all cases), or a numerical integer value (which is equivalent to on, but specifies the minimum amount of data before the output is compressed). If the content-length is not known and compression is set to on or more aggressive, the output will also be compressed. If not specified, this attribute is set to off. . . . Service name=Catalina Connector port=80 maxHttpHeaderSize=8192 URIEncoding=UTF-8 maxThreads=150 minSpareThreads=25 maxSpareThreads=75 enableLookups=false redirectPort=8443 acceptCount=100 connectionTimeout=2 disableUploadTimeout=true compression=on compressableMimeType=text/html,text/xml,text/plain,application/xml, image/svg+xml / . . . Randy -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Mason Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:05 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF for Apache this means for the .svgz extension: Content-Type: image/svg+xml Content-Encoding: gzip Would anyone have the proper setting for Tomcat's web.xml ? TIA, Larry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:51:10 +0200, Tim Hesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Please do test... but yes, we do. cheers -- Charles McCathieNevile, Opera Software: Standards Group hablo español - je parle français - jeg lærer norsk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Opera 9 now! http://opera.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * setAttribute is not working at all in FF, and we get varying results in Opera. Use setAttributeNS(). I've never had a problem with this in either Firefox or Opera. Just remember that the attributes on SVG entities are in the null namespace: var someSVGCircleElement = document.getElementById(foo); someSVGCircleElement.setAttributeNS(null, cx, 300); - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Hi * Is there even a way to pan or zoom in FF? you could use my Zoom and Pan Extension, which can be found here: http://www.treebuilder.de/zoomAndPan/index.htm its still in an early version, and i dont have much time to update it currently, but you can give it a try ;-) cheers Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Holger Wll wrote: Hi * Is there even a way to pan or zoom in FF? you could use my Zoom and Pan Extension, which can be found here: http://www.treebuilder.de/zoomAndPan/index.htm its still in an early version, and i dont have much time to update it currently, but you can give it a try ;-) Well my JAReese is rusty have a friendlier version folks could look into. Another question might also be what tools do you use for making extensions with? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
Lance Dyas wrote: Lance Dyas wrote: Holger Wll wrote: Hi * Is there even a way to pan or zoom in FF? you could use my Zoom and Pan Extension, which can be found here: http://www.treebuilder.de/zoomAndPan/index.htm its still in an early version, and i dont have much time to update it currently, but you can give it a try ;-) Well my JAReese is rusty have a friendlier version folks could look into. Another question might also be what tools do you use for making extensions with? By the way I failed to mention your tool is pretty neat... though a bit in ones face (small icons seem big these days unless one is on the mac in which case folks seem to want really large realistic images instead of icons). Something more subtle would be to my liking. Perhaps right click menu options or better an icon in bottom left corner to say this is an svg then just use keyboard controls or click on the icon to turn on a floating tool bar... something along those lines. What enhancements did you have in mind for it? Smacking my hand on my forehead duuh The jar opens fiine in WinRAR - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
