[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-24 Thread Andreas
The bug is fixed in 4.0b8.

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas paw...@... wrote:

 You are right. Fox 3.6.11 zoom it.The upcoming Fox on Ubuntu 10.10 not. 
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
 
  Here's FF3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04:
  http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff3.6-svg-zoom.png
  FF4b6 on Ubuntu:
  http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff4b6-svg-zoom.png
  
  I see you're using Minefield, though. Maybe this is a new bug, and should be
  reported.
  
  Jake
  
  On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Andreas pawelf@ wrote:
  
  
  
   A screenshot:
  
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/75063...@n00/5105193014/
  
  
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   Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
   
Really? That seems to be working for me.
   
Jake
   
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Andreas pawelf@ wrote:
   


 In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.


 --- In 
 svg-developers@yahoogroups.comsvg-developers%40yahoogroups.comsvg-developers%
   40yahoogroups.com,
 Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
 
  Hi Marjn,
 
  So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
  Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside 
  an
   SVG
  document: using the image element, and using the use element.
  Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not
   support
  using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with
   the
 use
  element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit
   bug[0]
 that
  has prevented the use element from linking to external resources;
   but,
  webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in 
  order
   to
  make this work across browsers, some work is required:
 
 

   http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 
  The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an 
  extra
 column
  of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect
   Webkit
  browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think
   the
  markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be
 better
  to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
  improvements, I'd like to hear it.
 
  Best,
 
  Jake
 
  [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
 
  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo.com@ wrote:
 
  
  
   Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
   http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
   it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the
   svg
 files
   aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the 
   same
 folder.
  
   Marijn
  
  
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   Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
   
Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is
 failing
   just
by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
   
Jake
  
  
  
 
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-22 Thread Andreas
A screenshot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/75063...@n00/5105193014/

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:

 Really? That seems to be working for me.
 
 Jake
 
 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Andreas paw...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.
 
 
  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
  
   Hi Marjn,
  
   So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
   Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an SVG
   document: using the image element, and using the use element.
   Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not support
   using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with the
  use
   element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit bug[0]
  that
   has prevented the use element from linking to external resources; but,
   webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order to
   make this work across browsers, some work is required:
  
  
  http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
  
   The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra
  column
   of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect Webkit
   browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think the
   markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be
  better
   to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
   improvements, I'd like to hear it.
  
   Best,
  
   Jake
  
   [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
  
   On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo.com@ wrote:
  
   
   
Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg
  files
aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same
  folder.
   
Marijn
   
   
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Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:

 Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is
  failing
just
 by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?

 Jake
   
   
   
  
  
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-22 Thread Jacob Beard
Here's FF3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04:
http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff3.6-svg-zoom.png
FF4b6 on Ubuntu:
http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff4b6-svg-zoom.png

I see you're using Minefield, though. Maybe this is a new bug, and should be
reported.

Jake

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Andreas paw...@web.de wrote:



 A screenshot:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/75063...@n00/5105193014/


 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:
 
  Really? That seems to be working for me.
 
  Jake
 
  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Andreas paw...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.
  
  
   --- In 
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 40yahoogroups.com,
   Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
   
Hi Marjn,
   
So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an
 SVG
document: using the image element, and using the use element.
Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not
 support
using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with
 the
   use
element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit
 bug[0]
   that
has prevented the use element from linking to external resources;
 but,
webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order
 to
make this work across browsers, some work is required:
   
   
  
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
   
The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra
   column
of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect
 Webkit
browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think
 the
markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be
   better
to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
improvements, I'd like to hear it.
   
Best,
   
Jake
   
[0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
   
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo.com@ wrote:
   


 Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
 http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the
 svg
   files
 aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same
   folder.

 Marijn


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 svg-developers%40yahoogroups.comsvg-developers%

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 Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
 
  Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is
   failing
 just
  by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
 
  Jake



   
   
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[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-22 Thread Andreas
You are right. Fox 3.6.11 zoom it.The upcoming Fox on Ubuntu 10.10 not. 

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:

 Here's FF3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04:
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff3.6-svg-zoom.png
 FF4b6 on Ubuntu:
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/ff4b6-svg-zoom.png
 
 I see you're using Minefield, though. Maybe this is a new bug, and should be
 reported.
 
 Jake
 
 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Andreas paw...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  A screenshot:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/75063...@n00/5105193014/
 
 
  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
  
   Really? That seems to be working for me.
  
   Jake
  
   On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Andreas pawelf@ wrote:
  
   
   
In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.
   
   
--- In 
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  40yahoogroups.com,
Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:

 Hi Marjn,

 So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
 Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an
  SVG
 document: using the image element, and using the use element.
 Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not
  support
 using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with
  the
use
 element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit
  bug[0]
that
 has prevented the use element from linking to external resources;
  but,
 webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order
  to
 make this work across browsers, some work is required:


   
  http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg

 The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra
column
 of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect
  Webkit
 browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think
  the
 markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be
better
 to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
 improvements, I'd like to hear it.

 Best,

 Jake

 [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo.com@ wrote:

 
 
  Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
  http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
  it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the
  svg
files
  aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same
folder.
 
  Marijn
 
 
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  Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
  
   Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is
failing
  just
   by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
  
   Jake
 
 
 


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[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-21 Thread Andreas
In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:

 Hi Marjn,
 
 So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
 Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an SVG
 document: using the image element, and using the use element.
 Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not support
 using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with the use
 element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit bug[0] that
 has prevented the use element from linking to external resources; but,
 webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order to
 make this work across browsers, some work is required:
 
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 
 The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra column
 of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect Webkit
 browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think the
 markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be better
 to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
 improvements, I'd like to hear it.
 
 Best,
 
 Jake
 
 [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
 
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
  http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
  it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg files
  aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same folder.
 
  Marijn
 
 
  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
  
   Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is failing
  just
   by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
  
   Jake
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-21 Thread Jacob Beard
Really? That seems to be working for me.

Jake

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Andreas paw...@web.de wrote:



 In your example, it don't zoom in Fox.


 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:
 
  Hi Marjn,
 
  So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
  Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an SVG
  document: using the image element, and using the use element.
  Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not support
  using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with the
 use
  element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit bug[0]
 that
  has prevented the use element from linking to external resources; but,
  webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order to
  make this work across browsers, some work is required:
 
 
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 
  The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra
 column
  of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect Webkit
  browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think the
  markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be
 better
  to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
  improvements, I'd like to hear it.
 
  Best,
 
  Jake
 
  [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
 
  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo@... wrote:
 
  
  
   Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
   http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
   it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg
 files
   aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same
 folder.
  
   Marijn
  
  
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 40yahoogroups.com,

   Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
   
Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is
 failing
   just
by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
   
Jake
  
  
  
 
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-20 Thread marijn.kampf
Thanks Jake, that worked.

@Chaals: The embed doesn't work in Adobe Illustrator CS2 / Inkscape 0.48 
(including Jake's solution). My final use is converting SVGs into a PDFs / PNGs 
with rsvg-convert so the design can be printed on t-shirts and used for forum 
avatars (see www.vanvanvans.com/designer). 

I've ended up not using the image element. I'm altering the SVG in PHP and I'm 
including the SVG files without ?xml and doctype headers into a defsg 
id='svgBack'svg complete file/g/defs element at the top. I include the 
images using use overflow='visible' transform='matrix(0.555 0 0 0.555 0 0)' 
xlink:href='#svgBack' /use

I've done it this way, as I'm manipulating the content of the SVG in PHP, this 
way I don't have the save the intermediate results on disc, speeding stuff up.

Thank you for your help and suggestions.

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:

 Hi Marjn,
 
 So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
 Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an SVG
 document: using the image element, and using the use element.
 Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not support
 using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with the use
 element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit bug[0] that
 has prevented the use element from linking to external resources; but,
 webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order to
 make this work across browsers, some work is required:
 
 http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 
 The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra column
 of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect Webkit
 browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think the
 markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be better
 to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
 improvements, I'd like to hear it.
 
 Best,
 
 Jake
 
 [0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499
 
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
  http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
  it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg files
  aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same folder.
 
  Marijn
 
 
  --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jacob Beard jbeard4@ wrote:
  
   Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is failing
  just
   by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
  
   Jake
 
   
 
 
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-19 Thread marijn.kampf
Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at: 
http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg files 
aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same folder.

Marijn

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 Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is failing just
 by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
 
 Jake





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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-19 Thread Jacob Beard
Hi Marjn,

So, this turned out to be less straightforward than I was expecting.
Basically, I know of two ways to embed external SVG content inside an SVG
document: using the image element, and using the use element.
Unfortunately, Gecko, including Firefox 3.6 and 4b6, seems to not support
using image with external SVG resources; however, it does work with the use
element. On the other hand, there has been a longstanding webkit bug[0] that
has prevented the use element from linking to external resources; but,
webkit does support using image with external resources. So, in order to
make this work across browsers, some work is required:

http://live.echo-flow.com/stackoverflow/www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg

The shapes in the middle should now load everywhere. I added an extra column
of shapes on the far right: the star should load everywhere expect Webkit
browsers, and the circle should load everywhere but Firefox. I think the
markup I use to make this work is pretty evil, and it might just be better
to duplicate each image element. If anyone has any suggestions for
improvements, I'd like to hear it.

Best,

Jake

[0] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:58 AM, marijn.kampf yahoo@gwobbel.com wrote:



 Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
 http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg files
 aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the same folder.

 Marijn


 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jacob Beard jbea...@... wrote:
 
  Yes, this should be supported. It's hard to tell where this is failing
 just
  by looking at the text. Can you post a live example?
 
  Jake

  



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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:58:24 +0200, marijn.kampf yahoo@gwobbel.com  
wrote:

 Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
 http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
 it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg  
 files aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the  
 same folder.

Works fine for me (Opera). Where are you seeing the problem?

cheers

Chaals

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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Embed SVG from SVG

2010-10-19 Thread Jerrold Maddox
It also works in Safari.

Jerry

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.comwrote:



 On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:58:24 +0200, marijn.kampf 
 yahoo@gwobbel.comyahoo.com%40gwobbel.com

 wrote:

  Thanks for looking at this Jake, a live example can be found at:
  http://www.vanvanvans.com/test/embed.svg
  it should display two red circles and two red stars, however the svg
  files aren't shown, only the png files. All files are present in the
  same folder.

 Works fine for me (Opera). Where are you seeing the problem?

 cheers

 Chaals

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 http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
  



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