Ronan:
Can you summarize the SVG-T/SVG-B/SVG-everything
compliance/compatibility proposed for FF/Mozilla?
Thanks!
- Rick
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:35 AM
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Subject: [svg-developers] [update] Mozilla SVG report from XTech 2005
Hi, SVG Developers,
I gave a SVG/Perl talk at XTech 2005 (XML Europe) on Thursday about
template-driven business graphs in SVG using Perl. I'll post the talk
somewhere when I get the chance and pass on the url here.
While I was there, I took advantage to meet with the Mozilla dev team
who were there in force demonstrating XUL/SVG interaction on Mozilla.
On Thursday afternoon, there was a Mozilla BOF meeting and I managed to
get SVG support on the table.
Here is therefore the latest SVG Mozilla news:
1/ Nightly builds of the SVG 1.1 can be downloaded from the ftp site
below (these may be unstable and are not yet considered Alpha level)
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
These builds support SVG. Notice, there is a selection switch in the
options (somewhere) that turns on and off native SVG so you can also use
the Adobe browser within the application for comparison.
The Firefox 1.1 alpha 1 release Deer Park also supports SVG and will
be out any day. Week(s), not month(s).
2/ SVG in Mozilla will support http and XML methods, but will not
provide 'getURL', 'parseXML', and 'postURL' methods until they become
part of a specification. Content developers will therefore need to
provide a javascript equivalent built in legal script rather than built
in proprietary methods. I proposed the benefit of adding these into the
codebase temporarily, but the Moz team declined to embrace this. KEY
NOTE: Sockets ARE supported using ecma's standard html methods provided
within the ecmascript core. It will be up to developers to identify the
browser support and send the right ecmascript code, and generate bridges
from the above methods to the actual ecmascript methods.
3/ MOZ SVG will support scripting
4/ MOZ SVG will support XForms.
5/ MOZ SVG will not support SMIL at first, but Mozilla intend to support
the full SVG 1.0 (1.1?) specification as soon as possible. Actually, I
hear there is currently *some* SMIL support, and more coming, but it is
not supported yet.
6/ The SVG Moz team seem to not really know where their priorities need
to be adnd had a lot of questions about 'most useful' features. My line
was that they would probably find that at least 90% of the SVG spec is
needed by at least 50% uf app developers. I highlighted the need for
get/pstURL, SMIL, scripting, and fonts. I said filters were nice but not
a killer. And finally, graceful degradation was highlighted as an
important feature for missing stuff.
7/ The Moz team is concentrating on matching the rendering that Opera8
provides. I heard it mentioned that Opera may be working on implementing
a full-SVG version of their browser, since they currently support SVGT
only.
All in all, the Mozilla group showed real enthusiasm about SVG and seem
to be working as fast as they can. They requested that I pass on a
request for bug reports on FF1.1 to the svg-developers mailing list.
All and all, XTech 2005 showed a great deal of interest in SVG. A number
of vendors highlighted SVG support in either the current or the pending
versions of their code. The biggest criticism about SVG I recieved from
non-insider-svg-developers was that there is a derth of publishing
platforms. Hopefully this will change soon...
Cheers,
Ronan
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