Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space
I am glad to see such movement! I think the mailing list itself is quite cumbersome to operate with and some new community infrastructure could help to attract more people to SVG! Zdenek On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:39 PM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.netwrote: Hey Jeff! Thanks for the suggestion. I just looked into Google Sites a bit and it indeed looks quite promising. I think I'll ask one of our energetic students to consider putting together something there to see if it might address some of the needs for collaboration and sharing - it certainly solves a lot of the problems you alluded to with domains, CMS et cetera. Another option would be to set up a Moodle site at a friendly University somewhere. Moodle is pretty easy to use, and has layers of authoring privilege but it's more set up as an instructional thing than a document management system. Google Sites, if it is human-engineered like others of Google's projects (Google +, Sketchup, gmail, etc.) oughta be pretty easy to learn. I'm assuming it would support SVG? That's one of the hassles with Moodle -it only does SVG if one uses the embed tag, which of course raises accessibility concerns, and I suspect we'd like this to be an outward looking site as well as a community site. Though I must say that SVG/SMIL looks very nice in the midst of an otherwise HTML-esque sort of thingy. Among the collaborations I would imagine being hosted there would be (and please chime in with others that I know people have mentioned): . A place for flags of the world - there are too many for one person to make them all . A place for work with SVG textures (naturalistic scene generation with filters) . Clever gadgets and machines made with SMIL . Emoji . SVG widgets - progress bars, clocks, color pickers, zoom and pan interfaces, sliders, scrollbars, etc. . Examples using replicate . Simulated 3D effects (like cylindrical rotation) . A contest to see who can introject the most content-appropriate SMIL into Wikipedia . Elegantly scripted things . Things that are elegantly marked up . Identifying frequently used icons for which the code could be improved (like the HTML5 logo or the uncopyright symbol) and then fixing them . Semantic primitives (like emoji only systematically collected rather than whimsically) . Collecting use cases for new SVG features . Collecting acid tests (do we prefer the name torture tests now that acid has been neutralized by some sort of alkaline poisoning?) - Jeff I recall that you had gathered a lot of these somewhere? . Links to nice examples If it were all wiki-like then all editors could improve any parts of it and if certain pages languish out of neglect it wouldn't have to prevent other pages from being vital and interesting. It certainly looks like it would be less hassle than the Drupal thing that you and Rob Russell wrestled with a few years back. Maybe if we get something set up, we can let the members of the SVG IG know and perhaps even sanction the activity there? Might others opine? Cheers David From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schiller Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 3:42 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.net mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net wrote: ** I know some of you may have tired of this discussion from the last time it emerged, but perhaps technologies have changed in the past two years. Might there be some wiki-ish space that the SVG community could camp in and set up tents and exhibits and tables with wares and perhaps the occasional live entertainment, and which would leave legacy footprints with semi-permanent URL's? At the risk of sounding like a mindless Google drone, has anyone ever tried out Google Sites http://sites.google.com/? In combination with Google Docs, Google Groups, Google+ there are a lot of options for collaboration, discussion and sharing. Of course there are lots of other options too, but it seems like no one has the energy to get the domain, host a site, maintain CMS software, etc. Regards, Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg
Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.netwrote: ** I know some of you may have tired of this discussion from the last time it emerged, but perhaps technologies have changed in the past two years. Might there be some wiki-ish space that the SVG community could camp in and set up tents and exhibits and tables with wares and perhaps the occasional live entertainment, and which would leave legacy footprints with semi-permanent URL's? At the risk of sounding like a mindless Google drone, has anyone ever tried out Google Sites http://sites.google.com/? In combination with Google Docs, Google Groups, Google+ there are a lot of options for collaboration, discussion and sharing. Of course there are lots of other options too, but it seems like no one has the energy to get the domain, host a site, maintain CMS software, etc. Regards, Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space
Good idea. Quite a few folks have developed svg-related websites over the years but as you say, there is no solid centralized up-to-date wiki resource. Making use of google docs might be ideal in that it includes a drawing editor which is based on SVG, and provides solid authentication as well. I think custom domain names can be setup on google that integrate with google docs, but I am not sure whether wiki's, and custom PHP apps can be hosted along-side a google-docs enabled website. Hopefully Neil Frasier knows more about this. Having a website with a .org extension is a little better for inviting collaboration and wiki-updates Some domain names that might be good for this: planetsvg.org or .com svgelves.org or .com svg-developers.org or .com svgrocks.org or .com The last first two already have decent search engine ranking. No one person has time to do the job, but the wiki community likely has plenty of time to create something useful. This effort would likely be complimentary to the w3c+dev.Opera material that has been mentioned. Jon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG-Wiki
Doug Schepers schrieb: Hi- Many of you have wondered what happened to the SVG-Wiki. For those that don't know of it, the SVG-Wiki was started several years ago by Niklas Gustavsson, a talented developer, who passed it into the hands of www.svg.org. It was populated and corrected by many in this community as a central resource for SVG knowledge. Unfortunately, it became the target for unscrupulous spammers, who would nightly replace the content with (mostly Chinese) advertisements and links. Despite the best efforts of many dedicated antispammers, the load became too great, and the wiki had to be taken down. I took on the task of restoring and securing the wiki a few months ago, but work pressures prevented me from following through promptly. I passed it on to other volunteers, but the format of the archives proved to be a barrier, as did the lack of a current installation. However, recognizing the need for this great resource (and with some gentle prodding by others to remind me), I came back to the task, and hope to restore the wiki to its glory days. I'm doing a mostly by-hand restoration of the structure and content into a more secure (I hope!) MediaWiki installation. You can view it at its temporary home at: http://svg-whiz.com/wiki/ When it is once again stable and useful, it will go back to living at svg.org (though I may mirror it). Currently, I've restored about 1/2 to 2/3 of the content. However, I've noticed that much of the old content is out of date! It doesn't take into account FireFox, or many of the (hopefully) upcoming features of SVG 1.2 or sXBL. Also, it suffers from poor organization, which I'm trying to amend a bit (without being too obtrusive). So, I'm looking for volunteers to help with the restoration and revision of the SVG-Wiki. I hated to do it, but I made the wiki account-only. If you want to help out, I will have to make you an account. I will also make the raw archives available on request. Regards- Doug doug . schepers @ vectoreal.com www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. Hi Dough this is really great news ! thank you very much ! i will contact you later for an account, just wanted to say thanks. cheers Holger Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h9fcnc1/M=362329.6886308.7839368.1510227/D=groups/S=1706030389:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123320960/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!/a./font ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Wiki
Just getting back into SVG. What's the story with the wiki? (I love instantatlas.com. Great stuff.) On 3/28/05, Antoine Quint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 mars 2005, at 17:02, Marjorie Roswell wrote: http://wiki.svg.org/ used to be a great resource, before a spammer took over. Who's able to help restore it? I'm happy to help, if someone gives me access. It's in the process of being restored. Stay tuned. Antoine -- Antoine Quint — Fuchsia Design SVG Client-side XML Consulting W3C Invited Expert (SVG and CDF) http://fuchsia-design.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Wiki
On 28 mars 2005, at 17:02, Marjorie Roswell wrote: http://wiki.svg.org/ used to be a great resource, before a spammer took over. Who's able to help restore it? I'm happy to help, if someone gives me access. It's in the process of being restored. Stay tuned. Antoine -- Antoine Quint Fuchsia Design SVG Client-side XML Consulting W3C Invited Expert (SVG and CDF) http://fuchsia-design.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
