Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7
In message , =?utf-8?Q?Edward _Tomasz_Napiera=C5=82a?= writes: > > > > On 16 Nov 2018, at 18:40, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > > In message <201811161804.wagi44wc047...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, > > "Rodney W. Gri > > mes" writes: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0...@freebsd.org> wro > te: > > A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signallin > >> g > init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), > but > this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. > > >>> > >>> I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning f > or > >>> doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has > >>> become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown > >>> functionality... > >>> > >>> I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of > >>> which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdo > wn > >>> -r now'. > >> > >> I support this position. > > > > reboot(2) should be changed to signal init(8). RB_AUTOBOOT should > > signal init while a new RB_FASTBOOT or RB_LEGACY (or pick a name) would > > preserve traditional behavior. RB_POWEROFF, RB_POWERCYCLE and RB_HALT > > would also signal init except when RB_FASTBOOT flag is set. > > Wouldnât this break rebooting when UID 1 is not init(8)? You mean PID 1, right? This would obviously require special case handling when the caller is PID 1. Tangentially, though Linux vaguely documents RB_*, they document LINUX_REBOOT_* in their man page, which obviously doesn't work here. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7
> On 16 Nov 2018, at 18:40, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <201811161804.wagi44wc047...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, > "Rodney W. Gri > mes" writes: On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0...@freebsd.org> wrote: A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signallin >> g init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), but this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. >>> >>> I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning for >>> doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has >>> become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown >>> functionality... >>> >>> I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of >>> which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdown >>> -r now'. >> >> I support this position. > > reboot(2) should be changed to signal init(8). RB_AUTOBOOT should > signal init while a new RB_FASTBOOT or RB_LEGACY (or pick a name) would > preserve traditional behavior. RB_POWEROFF, RB_POWERCYCLE and RB_HALT > would also signal init except when RB_FASTBOOT flag is set. Wouldn’t this break rebooting when UID 1 is not init(8)? ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7
In message <201811161804.wagi44wc047...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Gri mes" writes: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0...@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signallin > g > > > init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), > > > but > > > this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. > > > > > > > I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning for > > doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has > > become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown > > functionality... > > > > I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of > > which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdown > > -r now'. > > I support this position. reboot(2) should be changed to signal init(8). RB_AUTOBOOT should signal init while a new RB_FASTBOOT or RB_LEGACY (or pick a name) would preserve traditional behavior. RB_POWEROFF, RB_POWERCYCLE and RB_HALT would also signal init except when RB_FASTBOOT flag is set. This aligns us better with what Linux is currently doing. IIRC Solaris still uses the legacy behavior however Solaris isn't relevant any more. Linux is pretty much the standard and we should endeavour to conform as much as we can. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0...@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signalling > > init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), > > but > > this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. > > > > I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning for > doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has > become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown > functionality... > > I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of > which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdown > -r now'. I support this position. -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0...@freebsd.org> wrote: > A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signalling > init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), > but > this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. > I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning for doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown functionality... I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdown -r now'. Warner ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
