Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
On 27/04/17 18:44, Bruce Simpson wrote: > Hopefully, with packet mode DSL, none of this should be needed again. > JFYI I'm referring to ye olde Packet Transfer Mode (PTM) DSL, TR-009... which dispenses with the need for ATM framing on DSL circuits. Some US ISPs have been observed doing this in the wild. DSL isn't going away any time soon, though -- many of us still use it as a backup circuit for other things (vs Metro Ethernet, G.FAST, DOCSIS etc.) ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
Hopefully, with packet mode DSL, none of this should be needed again. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 06:09:05PM -0700, Ngie Cooper wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > ... > > > Ignore me I see you got it on your change to Updating. > > `Relnotes: yes` and adding UPDATING entries are complementary > IMHO. UPDATING is meant more for those who upgrade via src (might > contain workarounds, etc), whereas `Relnotes: yes` targets release > notes, which can be used by those doing a binary or src based upgrade. > Thanks for catching this! It should have been included here, but I closed the editor too soon and figured getting it in the UPDATING entry was sufficent. -- Brooks signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: ... > Ignore me I see you got it on your change to Updating. `Relnotes: yes` and adding UPDATING entries are complementary IMHO. UPDATING is meant more for those who upgrade via src (might contain workarounds, etc), whereas `Relnotes: yes` targets release notes, which can be used by those doing a binary or src based upgrade. Thanks for catching this! -Ngie ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
> -- Start of PGP signed section. > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:21:50PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > Author: brooks > > > Date: Mon Apr 24 21:21:49 2017 > > > New Revision: 317383 > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/317383 > > > > > > Log: > > > Remove the NATM framework including the en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and > > > patm(4) devices. > > > > > > Maintaining an address family and framework has real costs when we make > > > infrastructure improvements. In the case of NATM we support no devices > > > manufactured in the last 20 years and some will not even work in modern > > > motherboards (some newer devices that patm(4) could be updated to > > > support apparently exist, but we do not currently have support). > > > > > > With this change, support remains for some netgraph modules that don't > > > require NATM support code. It is unclear if all these should remain, > > > though ng_atmllc certainly stands alone. > > > > > > Note well: FreeBSD 11 supports NATM and will continue to do so until at > > > least September 30, 2021. Improvements to the code in FreeBSD 11 are > > > certainly welcome. > > > > > > Reviewed by:philip > > > Approved by:harti > > > > Should have included: > > > > Differential revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 > > Should have further included: > Release Notes: yes Ignore me I see you got it on your change to Updating. -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
-- Start of PGP signed section. > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:21:50PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > > Author: brooks > > Date: Mon Apr 24 21:21:49 2017 > > New Revision: 317383 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/317383 > > > > Log: > > Remove the NATM framework including the en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and > > patm(4) devices. > > > > Maintaining an address family and framework has real costs when we make > > infrastructure improvements. In the case of NATM we support no devices > > manufactured in the last 20 years and some will not even work in modern > > motherboards (some newer devices that patm(4) could be updated to > > support apparently exist, but we do not currently have support). > > > > With this change, support remains for some netgraph modules that don't > > require NATM support code. It is unclear if all these should remain, > > though ng_atmllc certainly stands alone. > > > > Note well: FreeBSD 11 supports NATM and will continue to do so until at > > least September 30, 2021. Improvements to the code in FreeBSD 11 are > > certainly welcome. > > > > Reviewed by: philip > > Approved by: harti > > Should have included: > > Differential revision:https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 Should have further included: Release Notes: yes -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r317383 - in head: . etc/mtree include lib/libc/net rescue/rescue sbin sbin/atm sbin/atm/atmconfig share/man/man4 sys/boot/forth sys/conf sys/dev/en sys/dev/fatm sys/dev/hatm sys/dev/p
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:21:50PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > Author: brooks > Date: Mon Apr 24 21:21:49 2017 > New Revision: 317383 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/317383 > > Log: > Remove the NATM framework including the en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and > patm(4) devices. > > Maintaining an address family and framework has real costs when we make > infrastructure improvements. In the case of NATM we support no devices > manufactured in the last 20 years and some will not even work in modern > motherboards (some newer devices that patm(4) could be updated to > support apparently exist, but we do not currently have support). > > With this change, support remains for some netgraph modules that don't > require NATM support code. It is unclear if all these should remain, > though ng_atmllc certainly stands alone. > > Note well: FreeBSD 11 supports NATM and will continue to do so until at > least September 30, 2021. Improvements to the code in FreeBSD 11 are > certainly welcome. > > Reviewed by:philip > Approved by:harti Should have included: Differential revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 -- Brooks signature.asc Description: PGP signature
