Re: svn commit: r359168 - head
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:02:46PM +, Ed Maste wrote: >> E> Author: emaste >> E> Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 >> E> New Revision: 359168 >> E> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 >> E> >> E> Log: >> E> remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries >> E> >> E> We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was >> E> released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient ObsoleteFiles.inc >> E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from >> E> 1999 and earlier. >> >> I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and >> trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about >> keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting >> purposes? >> > > This is what SCM history is for, IMHO. The historical entries serve little > purpose outside of that. Moreover, splitting them up into separate files will make merges more difficult than they need to be/already are. Cheers, -Enji ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r359168 - head
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:58 PM Scott Long wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:02:46PM +, Ed Maste wrote: > > E> Author: emaste > > E> Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 > > E> New Revision: 359168 > > E> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 > > E> > > E> Log: > > E> remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries > > E> > > E> We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was > > E> released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient > ObsoleteFiles.inc > > E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from > > E> 1999 and earlier. > > > > I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and > > trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about > > keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting > > purposes? > > > > This is what SCM history is for, IMHO. The historical entries serve little > purpose outside of that. > We only support upgrading so far into the past. Farther than we can build, sure, but it's still limited. If you have systems older than that, or that haven't been preened, you can get the the last release's tree and do a cleaning. There's no more reason to retain this stuff than there is to retain ancient version compat code in drivers, etc. So while it seems like a good idea to have this back to dirt, in reality it would get little use and the data can be found easily enough now, and in the future. That's why I advised Ed to just delete the entries > 20 years old... Warner ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r359168 - head
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:02:46PM +, Ed Maste wrote: E> Author: emaste E> Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 E> New Revision: 359168 E> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 E> E> Log: E> remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries E> E> We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was E> released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient ObsoleteFiles.inc E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from E> 1999 and earlier. I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting purposes? -- Gleb Smirnoff ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r359168 - head
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:02:46PM +, Ed Maste wrote: > E> Author: emaste > E> Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 > E> New Revision: 359168 > E> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 > E> > E> Log: > E> remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries > E> > E> We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was > E> released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient ObsoleteFiles.inc > E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from > E> 1999 and earlier. > > I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and > trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about > keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting > purposes? > This is what SCM history is for, IMHO. The historical entries serve little purpose outside of that. Scott ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r359168 - head
Wouldn't there been a better way to split up the global obsoletefiles.inc file and put them in to specific components directory or at least split them up by release basis to easier the future deletions? On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:02:46PM +, Ed Maste wrote: > E> Author: emaste > E> Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 > E> New Revision: 359168 > E> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 > E> > E> Log: > E> remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries > E> > E> We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was > E> released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient ObsoleteFiles.inc > E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from > E> 1999 and earlier. > > I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and > trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about > keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting > purposes? > > -- > Gleb Smirnoff > ___ > svn-src-h...@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
svn commit: r359168 - head
Author: emaste Date: Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020 New Revision: 359168 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359168 Log: remove ancient pre-2000 ObsoleteFiles.inc entries We support 10.3 as the minimum version to install from, which was released in the mid-2010s. There's a lot of ancient ObsoleteFiles.inc history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from 1999 and earlier. Modified: head/ObsoleteFiles.inc Modified: head/ObsoleteFiles.inc == --- head/ObsoleteFiles.inc Fri Mar 20 16:00:26 2020(r359167) +++ head/ObsoleteFiles.inc Fri Mar 20 16:02:45 2020(r359168) @@ -9809,49 +9809,6 @@ OLD_FILES+=usr/bin/miniperl OLD_FILES+=usr/bin/sperl # 21XX OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/apmconf -# 199911XX -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/ipfstat -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/ipmon -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/ipnat -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/bad144 -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/wormcontrol -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/named-bootconf -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/kvm_mkdb -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/keyadmin -# 199909XX -OLD_FILES+=usr/lib/libdesrypt_p.a -OLD_FILES+=sbin/ft -# 199903XX -OLD_FILES+=sbin/modload -OLD_FILES+=sbin/modunload -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/natd -# 199812XX -OLD_FILES+=sbin/dset -# 199809XX -OLD_FILES+=sbin/scsi -OLD_FILES+=sbin/scsiformat -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/ncrcontrol -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/tickadj -# 199806XX -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/mkdosfs -# 199801XX -OLD_FILES+=sbin/mount_lfs -OLD_FILES+=sbin/newlfs -OLD_FILES+=sbin/dumplfs -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/qcamcontrol -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/supscan -# 1997 -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/sysctl -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/ctm_scan -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/addgroup -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/rmgroup -# 1996 -OLD_FILES+=sbin/rdisc -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/cdplay -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/supfilesrv -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/routed -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/lsdev -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/yppasswdd ## unsorted # do we still support aout builds? #OLD_FILES+=usr/lib/aout/c++rt0.o @@ -10798,10 +10755,6 @@ OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2 OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libutil.so.2 OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libvgl.so.1 OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libwrap.so.2 -# 19991216 -OLD_FILES+=usr/sbin/xntpdc -# 199909XX -OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libc_r.so.3 # ??? OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libarchive.so.2 OLD_LIBS+=usr/lib/libbsnmp.so.1 ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
