Re: svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-05 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> It seems Conrad dropped me from his reply, so I can't include it directly,
> but...
> 
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 06:12:05AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > 04.06.2020 11:29, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Author: bjk (doc committer)
> > > > Date: Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > > > New Revision: 361783
> > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361783
> > > > 
> > > > Log:
> > > >   Add EXAMPLES to killall(1)
> > > >   
> > > >   Submitted by: fernape
> > > >   Differential Revision:https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25002
> > > > 
> > > > Modified:
> > > >   head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > > > 
> > > > Modified: head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > > > ==
> > > > --- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
> > > > (r361782)
> > > > +++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > > > (r361783)
> > > > @@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found 
> > > > and
> > > >  signalled successfully.
> > > >  Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
> > > >  returned.
> > > > +.Sh EXAMPLES
> > > > +Send
> > > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > > +to all firefox processes:
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall firefox
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Send
> > > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > > +to firefox processes belonging to
> > > > +.Va USER :
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -u ${USER} firefox
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Stop all firefox processes:
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -SIGSTOP firefox
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Resume firefox processes:
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -SIGCONT firefox
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually 
> > > > signal them:
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -s firefox
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Send
> > > > +.Dv SIGKILL
> > > > +to csh process running inside jail ID 282:
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -9 -j282 csh
> > > > +.Ed
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +Send
> > > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > > +to all processes matching provided pattern (like vim and vimdiff):
> > > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > > +killall -m 'vim*'
> > > > +.Ed
> > > >  .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
> > > >  Diagnostic messages will only be printed if requested by
> > > >  .Fl d
> > > 
> > > "Firefox" is a trade mark (type of intellectual property) of Mozilla 
> > > Foundation.
> > > Is it OK for us to use this name such way?
> > > 
> > > Isn't it better using a name of some utility we have in the base system 
> > > like systat(1) ?
> > 
> > Purley out of simple safety I agree here.   Though I doubt a case could
> > be made for infringement it is just too easy to do the safe thing.
> 
> I'm not aware of any issues with using a trademark-protected term to refer
> to the product named by the mark,

Actually since you fail to recognize it as a mark with a TM notice this
does have other legal issues  much as Sony didnt recognize the TM
on FreeBSD when used Mozilla could send us a nasty gram.

Probably unlikely, but still possible.

> and don't see how one could claim that
> this usage is an attempt to dilute the mark.  I don't currently plan to
> make any further changes to this example, myself (though I will not stand
> in the way if someone else wants to blandify the example).

Good enough.

> Thanks,
> Ben
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Re: svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-05 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
It seems Conrad dropped me from his reply, so I can't include it directly,
but...

On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 06:12:05AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > 04.06.2020 11:29, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > 
> > > Author: bjk (doc committer)
> > > Date: Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > > New Revision: 361783
> > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361783
> > > 
> > > Log:
> > >   Add EXAMPLES to killall(1)
> > >   
> > >   Submitted by:   fernape
> > >   Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25002
> > > 
> > > Modified:
> > >   head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > > 
> > > Modified: head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > > ==
> > > --- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
> > > (r361782)
> > > +++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > > (r361783)
> > > @@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found and
> > >  signalled successfully.
> > >  Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
> > >  returned.
> > > +.Sh EXAMPLES
> > > +Send
> > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > +to all firefox processes:
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall firefox
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Send
> > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > +to firefox processes belonging to
> > > +.Va USER :
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -u ${USER} firefox
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Stop all firefox processes:
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -SIGSTOP firefox
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Resume firefox processes:
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -SIGCONT firefox
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually signal 
> > > them:
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -s firefox
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Send
> > > +.Dv SIGKILL
> > > +to csh process running inside jail ID 282:
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -9 -j282 csh
> > > +.Ed
> > > +.Pp
> > > +Send
> > > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > > +to all processes matching provided pattern (like vim and vimdiff):
> > > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > > +killall -m 'vim*'
> > > +.Ed
> > >  .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
> > >  Diagnostic messages will only be printed if requested by
> > >  .Fl d
> > 
> > "Firefox" is a trade mark (type of intellectual property) of Mozilla 
> > Foundation.
> > Is it OK for us to use this name such way?
> > 
> > Isn't it better using a name of some utility we have in the base system 
> > like systat(1) ?
> 
> Purley out of simple safety I agree here.   Though I doubt a case could
> be made for infringement it is just too easy to do the safe thing.

I'm not aware of any issues with using a trademark-protected term to refer
to the product named by the mark, and don't see how one could claim that
this usage is an attempt to dilute the mark.  I don't currently plan to
make any further changes to this example, myself (though I will not stand
in the way if someone else wants to blandify the example).

Thanks,

Ben
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Re: svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-04 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43 AM Eugene Grosbein  wrote:
>
> 04.06.2020 11:29, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > --- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
> > (r361782)
> > +++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > (r361783)
> > @@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found and
> >  signalled successfully.
> >  Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
> >  returned.
> > +.Sh EXAMPLES
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > +to all firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > +to firefox processes belonging to
> > +.Va USER :
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -u ${USER} firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Stop all firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -SIGSTOP firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Resume firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -SIGCONT firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually signal 
> > them:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -s firefox
> > +.Ed
>
> "Firefox" is a trade mark (type of intellectual property) of Mozilla 
> Foundation.
> Is it OK for us to use this name such way?

Yes.  You can of course refer to trademarks in writing, or else no one
could write news or blog about Firefox™, Chrome™, Windows™, Linux™, or
even FreeBSD™.  There is no likelihood of confusion with the firefox
product or dilution of the trademark, and the use is non-commerical.

Conrad
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Re: svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-04 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 04.06.2020 11:29, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> 
> > Author: bjk (doc committer)
> > Date: Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > New Revision: 361783
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361783
> > 
> > Log:
> >   Add EXAMPLES to killall(1)
> >   
> >   Submitted by: fernape
> >   Differential Revision:https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25002
> > 
> > Modified:
> >   head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > 
> > Modified: head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> > ==
> > --- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
> > (r361782)
> > +++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> > (r361783)
> > @@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found and
> >  signalled successfully.
> >  Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
> >  returned.
> > +.Sh EXAMPLES
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > +to all firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > +to firefox processes belonging to
> > +.Va USER :
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -u ${USER} firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Stop all firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -SIGSTOP firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Resume firefox processes:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -SIGCONT firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually signal 
> > them:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -s firefox
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGKILL
> > +to csh process running inside jail ID 282:
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -9 -j282 csh
> > +.Ed
> > +.Pp
> > +Send
> > +.Dv SIGTERM
> > +to all processes matching provided pattern (like vim and vimdiff):
> > +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> > +killall -m 'vim*'
> > +.Ed
> >  .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
> >  Diagnostic messages will only be printed if requested by
> >  .Fl d
> 
> "Firefox" is a trade mark (type of intellectual property) of Mozilla 
> Foundation.
> Is it OK for us to use this name such way?
> 
> Isn't it better using a name of some utility we have in the base system like 
> systat(1) ?

Purley out of simple safety I agree here.   Though I doubt a case could
be made for infringement it is just too easy to do the safe thing.

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Re: svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-04 Thread Eugene Grosbein
04.06.2020 11:29, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> Author: bjk (doc committer)
> Date: Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> New Revision: 361783
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361783
> 
> Log:
>   Add EXAMPLES to killall(1)
>   
>   Submitted by:   fernape
>   Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25002
> 
> Modified:
>   head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> 
> Modified: head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
> ==
> --- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
> (r361782)
> +++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
> (r361783)
> @@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found and
>  signalled successfully.
>  Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
>  returned.
> +.Sh EXAMPLES
> +Send
> +.Dv SIGTERM
> +to all firefox processes:
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall firefox
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Send
> +.Dv SIGTERM
> +to firefox processes belonging to
> +.Va USER :
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -u ${USER} firefox
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Stop all firefox processes:
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -SIGSTOP firefox
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Resume firefox processes:
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -SIGCONT firefox
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually signal 
> them:
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -s firefox
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Send
> +.Dv SIGKILL
> +to csh process running inside jail ID 282:
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -9 -j282 csh
> +.Ed
> +.Pp
> +Send
> +.Dv SIGTERM
> +to all processes matching provided pattern (like vim and vimdiff):
> +.Bd -literal -offset indent
> +killall -m 'vim*'
> +.Ed
>  .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
>  Diagnostic messages will only be printed if requested by
>  .Fl d

"Firefox" is a trade mark (type of intellectual property) of Mozilla Foundation.
Is it OK for us to use this name such way?

Isn't it better using a name of some utility we have in the base system like 
systat(1) ?

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svn commit: r361783 - head/usr.bin/killall

2020-06-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Author: bjk (doc committer)
Date: Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
New Revision: 361783
URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361783

Log:
  Add EXAMPLES to killall(1)
  
  Submitted by: fernape
  Differential Revision:https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25002

Modified:
  head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1

Modified: head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1
==
--- head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 02:36:41 2020
(r361782)
+++ head/usr.bin/killall/killall.1  Thu Jun  4 04:29:43 2020
(r361783)
@@ -145,6 +145,50 @@ utility exits 0 if some processes have been found and
 signalled successfully.
 Otherwise, a status of 1 will be
 returned.
+.Sh EXAMPLES
+Send
+.Dv SIGTERM
+to all firefox processes:
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall firefox
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Send
+.Dv SIGTERM
+to firefox processes belonging to
+.Va USER :
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -u ${USER} firefox
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Stop all firefox processes:
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -SIGSTOP firefox
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Resume firefox processes:
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -SIGCONT firefox
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Show what would be done to firefox processes, but do not actually signal them:
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -s firefox
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Send
+.Dv SIGKILL
+to csh process running inside jail ID 282:
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -9 -j282 csh
+.Ed
+.Pp
+Send
+.Dv SIGTERM
+to all processes matching provided pattern (like vim and vimdiff):
+.Bd -literal -offset indent
+killall -m 'vim*'
+.Ed
 .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
 Diagnostic messages will only be printed if requested by
 .Fl d
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