Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
> On 21 Jun 2020, at 17:41, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > If you got a Master's degree in South Africa under Apartheid, to many people > that is still symbolic. First I've heard of it (yes, I'm South African). > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Education > > Apartheid is not very long ago and the people that experienced this are still > alive. And many of those folks have MSc/MEng/MBA etc degrees, and are not agitating to change them. M -- signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 18:04 Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 18:54, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:41 PM Hans Petter Selasky > wrote: > >> On 2020-06-21 18:11, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 06:01:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > > I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw > > away yours? > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master > > I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. > >>> > >>> *facepalm* > >> > >> If you got a Master's degree in South Africa under Apartheid, to many > >> people that is still symbolic. > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Education > >> > >> Apartheid is not very long ago and the people that experienced this are > >> still alive. > > > > How is this relevant? > > > > Please let me know when you will find "slave boot record". Until then > > - please revert the commit. > > Because the people I am referring to never got a chance to write any > boot loader at school. > And? How this is relevant? How this changes the fact that in "master boot record" word master has no relation to slavery? > > > > Also, I would recommend you educating yourself on the meaning of the > > word "context". > > I didn't steer this commit discussion into the "Master's degree". > To show you that you should consider the context. Master boot record, as well as master's degree, as well as many-many other usecases have no relation with slavery. Otherwise I would suggest you to write a letter to Oxford to completely remove word "master" from English language along with the letter to your MP to introduce a law which would make using word "master" punishable by death. I really feel the pain people feel about slavery and completely support them, but right here right now you are not helping, you are doing quite opposite. > Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I > should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. > >>> > >>> Hans, if you wanted to make reductio ad absurdum, that point is seen. > >>> Now, please revert the commit. We are *already losing developers* > >>> because of all this shit and it must be stopped. This is definitely > >>> not the right time to make such changes in such manner, leaving alone > >>> the need for the changes per se. > >> > >> Really? > > > > Trying to be funny does not add you more credibility. > > > > --HPS > ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 21/06/2020 16:34, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Author: hselasky > Date: Sun Jun 21 13:34:08 2020 > New Revision: 362466 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362466 > > Log: > Improve wording to be more precise and clear. > No functional change intended. > > s/Master Boot/Main Boot/ (also called MBR) Where does your hate for word 'master', especially in the technical context, come from? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/master > MFC after: 1 week > Sponsored by: Mellanox Technologies -- Andriy Gapon ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
Hi Alexandr, On 2020-06-21 18:54, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:41 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 18:11, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 06:01:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw away yours? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. *facepalm* If you got a Master's degree in South Africa under Apartheid, to many people that is still symbolic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Education Apartheid is not very long ago and the people that experienced this are still alive. How is this relevant? Please let me know when you will find "slave boot record". Until then - please revert the commit. Because the people I am referring to never got a chance to write any boot loader at school. Also, I would recommend you educating yourself on the meaning of the word "context". I didn't steer this commit discussion into the "Master's degree". Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. Hans, if you wanted to make reductio ad absurdum, that point is seen. Now, please revert the commit. We are *already losing developers* because of all this shit and it must be stopped. This is definitely not the right time to make such changes in such manner, leaving alone the need for the changes per se. Really? Trying to be funny does not add you more credibility. --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:41 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 18:11, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 06:01:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >> On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > >>> I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw > >>> away yours? > >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master > >> > >> I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. > > > > *facepalm* > > If you got a Master's degree in South Africa under Apartheid, to many > people that is still symbolic. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Education > > Apartheid is not very long ago and the people that experienced this are > still alive. How is this relevant? Please let me know when you will find "slave boot record". Until then - please revert the commit. Also, I would recommend you educating yourself on the meaning of the word "context". > >> Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I > >> should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. > > > > Hans, if you wanted to make reductio ad absurdum, that point is seen. > > Now, please revert the commit. We are *already losing developers* > > because of all this shit and it must be stopped. This is definitely > > not the right time to make such changes in such manner, leaving alone > > the need for the changes per se. > > Really? Trying to be funny does not add you more credibility. -- Alexandr Kovalenko http://uafug.org.ua/ ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi Alexey, On 2020-06-21 18:11, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 06:01:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw away yours? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. *facepalm* If you got a Master's degree in South Africa under Apartheid, to many people that is still symbolic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Education Apartheid is not very long ago and the people that experienced this are still alive. Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. Hans, if you wanted to make reductio ad absurdum, that point is seen. Now, please revert the commit. We are *already losing developers* because of all this shit and it must be stopped. This is definitely not the right time to make such changes in such manner, leaving alone the need for the changes per se. Really? --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 06:01:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > > I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw > > away yours? > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master > > I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. *facepalm* > Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I > should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. Hans, if you wanted to make reductio ad absurdum, that point is seen. Now, please revert the commit. We are *already losing developers* because of all this shit and it must be stopped. This is definitely not the right time to make such changes in such manner, leaving alone the need for the changes per se. ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 2020-06-21 17:53, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:38 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 17:35, Alexander Motin wrote: Please revert. This is not the area we should make standards at. Besides, you've modified contributed software (file and tcpdump) for no FreeBSD-specifc reason instead of properly upstreaming your change, if you really like so. Noted. I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw away yours? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master I don't see a problem if you have a main computer degree. Actually you have a very good point. Didn't think of that yet. I should be more proud of my Bachelor's than my Masters's apparently. (engineering, computing) A device that is controlling other devices or is an authoritative source.a master wheela master database P.S. Making commit, then creating Wikipedia article based on commit and then using that wiki page to defend your commit - you don't feel that something is fishy here? Isn't this within what is acceptable? Someone committed something, it broke something unforeseen, and we respond and fix it. FreeBSD head is for trying out things. And I did not MFC anything yet! --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:38 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On 2020-06-21 17:35, Alexander Motin wrote: > > Please revert. This is not the area we should make standards at. > > Besides, you've modified contributed software (file and tcpdump) for no > > FreeBSD-specifc reason instead of properly upstreaming your change, if > > you really like so. > > Noted. I wonder should we also rename Master's Degree? Would you throw away yours? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/master (engineering, computing) A device that is controlling other devices or is an authoritative source.a master wheela master database P.S. Making commit, then creating Wikipedia article based on commit and then using that wiki page to defend your commit - you don't feel that something is fishy here? -- Alexandr Kovalenko http://uafug.org.ua/ ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 2020-06-21 17:35, Alexander Motin wrote: Please revert. This is not the area we should make standards at. Besides, you've modified contributed software (file and tcpdump) for no FreeBSD-specifc reason instead of properly upstreaming your change, if you really like so. Noted. --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 21.06.2020 10:48, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 16:43, Warner Losh wrote: >> Please revert. Another part if the guidance was that industry standard >> terms should be used until the industry renames them. This makes FreeBSD >> unique for no good reason. > > Have you forgotten that FreeBSD is an industry leader in many areas and > we are the ones making the standards of the future! Please revert. This is not the area we should make standards at. Besides, you've modified contributed software (file and tcpdump) for no FreeBSD-specifc reason instead of properly upstreaming your change, if you really like so. -- Alexander Motin ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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21.06.2020 21:48, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 16:43, Warner Losh wrote: >> Please revert. Another part if the guidance was that industry standard >> terms should be used until the industry renames them. This makes FreeBSD >> unique for no good reason. > > Hi Warner, > > Have you forgotten that FreeBSD is an industry leader in many areas and we > are the ones making the standards of the future! Even if you are trying make "a precedent" of commit+backout here, it's still wrong. If you are serious... We've already seen really sad example of one of committers, please don't go that way, I really appreciate your past contributions. ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 8:48 AM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 16:43, Warner Losh wrote: > > Please revert. Another part if the guidance was that industry standard > > terms should be used until the industry renames them. This makes FreeBSD > > unique for no good reason. > > Hi Warner, > > Have you forgotten that FreeBSD is an industry leader in many areas and > we are the ones making the standards of the future! > Please back this out. This is not a standard term and we are too small to innovate and set one here. Warner > ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 2020-06-21 16:43, Warner Losh wrote: Please revert. Another part if the guidance was that industry standard terms should be used until the industry renames them. This makes FreeBSD unique for no good reason. Hi Warner, Have you forgotten that FreeBSD is an industry leader in many areas and we are the ones making the standards of the future! --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi Alexey, On 2020-06-21 16:27, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: There is no chicken and egg problem here Hans. You're inventing bogus and unsound terminology that does no good and only confuses our users, code readers, and makes us as a project look like idiots. There is no unsound terminology: https://www.google.com/search?q=main+boot+record At least Google knows exactly what I mean, even without asking if I want to search for "main boot loader" or "master boot loader"! Several people had asked you to revert the commit. It was not properly reviewed, it solves no existing problem, but creates one instead. Like said, there no real breakage. And if you find more that is broken I will write it down, like the Wikipedia link and fix it. Please give me some time. --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 8:38 AM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 15:47, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > What's more clear about calling something that is called Master Boot > > Record something else ? > > What's next ? Will you contact the BBC so they redub all Doctor Who > > episode where "The Master" appears ? Contact Disney so the release a > > new version of Tron where the Master Control Program is call the Main > > Control Program ? > > Hi Manu, > > I didn't know BBC made such episodes. > > And no, I won't contact BBC nor Disney about this. > > The point here is that the Master's Boot Record may be very badly > perceived by some people. Do I need to explain that? > Please revert. Another part if the guidance was that industry standard terms should be used until the industry renames them. This makes FreeBSD unique for no good reason. There also is no slave boot record. Master here comes from the same place as master key. Warner > > ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 09:38 Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 15:47, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > What's more clear about calling something that is called Master Boot > > Record something else ? > > What's next ? Will you contact the BBC so they redub all Doctor Who > > episode where "The Master" appears ? Contact Disney so the release a > > new version of Tron where the Master Control Program is call the Main > > Control Program ? > > Hi Manu, > > I didn't know BBC made such episodes. > > And no, I won't contact BBC nor Disney about this. > > The point here is that the Master's Boot Record may be very badly > perceived by some people. Do I need to explain that? > > --HPS > No it can't. It's an absurd change. - Justin > ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 2020-06-21 15:47, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: What's more clear about calling something that is called Master Boot Record something else ? What's next ? Will you contact the BBC so they redub all Doctor Who episode where "The Master" appears ? Contact Disney so the release a new version of Tron where the Master Control Program is call the Main Control Program ? Hi Manu, I didn't know BBC made such episodes. And no, I won't contact BBC nor Disney about this. The point here is that the Master's Boot Record may be very badly perceived by some people. Do I need to explain that? --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 04:09:15PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 16:02, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Last edited by Hselasky (talk | contribs) 0 seconds ago. > > > > Ah, so you first make changes to FreeBSD and then attempt to edit the > > Wikipedia to look like it supports your views? Seriously Hans?! > > This is a chicken an egg problem. It was easier to start with FreeBSD > and the follow up on Wikipedia. There is no chicken and egg problem here Hans. You're inventing bogus and unsound terminology that does no good and only confuses our users, code readers, and makes us as a project look like idiots. Several people had asked you to revert the commit. It was not properly reviewed, it solves no existing problem, but creates one instead. Please don't "fix" what ain't broken. ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi Alexey, On 2020-06-21 16:02, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Last edited by Hselasky (talk | contribs) 0 seconds ago. Ah, so you first make changes to FreeBSD and then attempt to edit the Wikipedia to look like it supports your views? Seriously Hans?! This is a chicken an egg problem. It was easier to start with FreeBSD and the follow up on Wikipedia. Anyways it is a comment in a text file and if it is not fixed in a few days time, I'll fix the link back to what it was. I'm not running away. --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 01:59:12PM +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 03:48:33PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:46:56 +0200 > > Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > > On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > >> ... > > > >> -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE > > > >> +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE > > > > Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. > > > > > > Yes, it does: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record > > > > > > No, need to revert. > > > > So because some random person on the net created a redirection MBR is > > now defined at Main Boot Record ? WFT > > There's no redirection; this article simply does not exist (well, did > not exist several minutes ago as apparently someone had added a draft > for it just now). Last edited by Hselasky (talk | contribs) 0 seconds ago. Ah, so you first make changes to FreeBSD and then attempt to edit the Wikipedia to look like it supports your views? Seriously Hans?! ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 2020-06-21 15:46, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: ... -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. Yes, it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record The Link will be there in a bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Main_boot_record=edit --HPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Boot_record ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 03:48:33PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:46:56 +0200 > Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > >> ... > > >> -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE > > >> +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE > > > Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. > > > > Yes, it does: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record > > > > No, need to revert. > > So because some random person on the net created a redirection MBR is > now defined at Main Boot Record ? WFT There's no redirection; this article simply does not exist (well, did not exist several minutes ago as apparently someone had added a draft for it just now). ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
> On 21 Jun 2020, at 14:51, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On 2020-06-21 15:46, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >> On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: ... -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE >>> Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. >> Yes, it does: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record > > When you enter "main boot record" in the search field, it automagically > redirects to "master boot record". No, it doesn't. "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name." M -- signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 03:46:56PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >> ... > >> -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE > >> +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE > > Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. > > Yes, it does: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record No, it doesn't. The fast that it does not return 404 does not mean it exists, this is how wikis work. Please read the contents. > No, need to revert. Just as we managed to cool down this shitstorm of controversial commits hitting the tree undiscussed, you're pouring more oil to the flames. This has to stop. Again, this commit must be reverted and DR opened with proposed changes if you feel they're warranted, because IMHO they are not: as with "master volume", MBR has its well defined meaning, there's no "slave boot record" and hence this change was totally uncalled for. ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
21.06.2020 20:34, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Author: hselasky > Date: Sun Jun 21 13:34:08 2020 > New Revision: 362466 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362466 > > Log: > Improve wording to be more precise and clear. > No functional change intended. > > s/Master Boot/Main Boot/ (also called MBR) Please revert. No one has rights to rewrite history and create such a mess, and Master Boot Record is historical term. ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On 2020-06-21 15:46, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: ... -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. Yes, it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record When you enter "main boot record" in the search field, it automagically redirects to "master boot record". --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:46:56 +0200 Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >> ... > >> -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE > >> +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE > > Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. > > Yes, it does: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record > > No, need to revert. > > --HPS So because some random person on the net created a redirection MBR is now defined at Main Boot Record ? WFT -- Emmanuel Vadot ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 13:34:09 + (UTC) Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Author: hselasky > Date: Sun Jun 21 13:34:08 2020 > New Revision: 362466 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362466 > > Log: > Improve wording to be more precise and clear. > No functional change intended. > > s/Master Boot/Main Boot/ (also called MBR) > > MFC after: 1 week > Sponsored by: Mellanox Technologies Hans, please revert this. What's more clear about calling something that is called Master Boot Record something else ? What's next ? Will you contact the BBC so they redub all Doctor Who episode where "The Master" appears ? Contact Disney so the release a new version of Tron where the Master Control Program is call the Main Control Program ? -- Emmanuel Vadot ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On 2020-06-21 15:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: ... -#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE +#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. Yes, it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record No, need to revert. --HPS ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362466 - in head: contrib/file/magic/Magdir contrib/tcpdump lib/geom/part stand/efi/include stand/i386/boot0 sys/dev/hptmv sys/geom/part usr.bin/fortune/datfiles usr.bin/mkimg usr.sbi
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 01:34:09PM +, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > New Revision: 362466 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362466 > > Log: > Improve wording to be more precise and clear. > No functional change intended. Please revert. > ... > -# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record#PTE > +# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_boot_record#PTE Wikipedia does not have an article with this name. ./danfe ___ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
