Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread BL



What site is it?

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  PM
  Subject: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
  Awhile back there was a private web page selling 
  games for "ludicrous" prices but this seller is setting new records for 
  insane, here is one example:Infocom Adventure 
  CollectionActivision  Price: $650.00Where's my credit 
  card, better get this one QUICK As I said only one example, another 
  Stonekeep for $165, for pity's sake!!!TomVisit my web page 
  for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. 
  Drash,  Tom's Ultima, 
  Infocom and RPG page 


Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Marco Thorek
> Stephane Racle schrieb:
> 
> Heh. Actually, that's an interesting one. I never understood the
> fascination with this particular package. It routinely sells on eBay
> for anywhere between $100-$200, but it's really not that
> interesting... For that price, you can probably grab 5 or 6 grey
> boxes, a couple of folios, and some Invisiclues hint books to go with
> that.

Yup. For $600 you could also get at least 20 greys at $30/each. If you
are lucky you could get about all of them, if you manage to grab them
for lower prices.

To me personally that is worth more than owning the Masterpieces.

Marco

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Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread hughfalk


This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic game prices as follows:
 
1994 - Present:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
1986 - 93:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
1977 - 85:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
 
I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).
 
Hugh
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What site is it?

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:26 PM
Subject: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
Awhile back there was a private web page selling games for "ludicrous" prices but this seller is setting new records for insane, here is one example:Infocom Adventure CollectionActivision  Price: $650.00Where's my credit card, better get this one QUICK As I said only one example, another Stonekeep for $165, for pity's sake!!!TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page 

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Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Lee K. Seitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
>
>This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
>game prices as follows:
> 
>1994 - Present:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
>1986 - 93:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
>1977 - 85:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> 
>I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
>on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).

Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II (1982) = $800
   Ultima III (1983) = $900
   Ultima IV (1985) = $800
   Ultima V (1988) = $140

Especially if we add subtitles!

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
   Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
   Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
   Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480

(I was nice and didn't count the colons.)

I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
prices:

   Zork (1980) = $400
   Zork II (1981) = $600
   Zork III (1982) = $700
   Starcross (1982) = $900
   Suspended (1983) = $900
   Planetfall (1983) = $1000
   The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
   Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
   Stationfall (1987) = $220

And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.

   Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
   Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
   Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300

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[SWCollect] Ultima

2004-02-04 Thread Freddie Bingham



I don't know if this Ultima is as rare as the auction states but 
if anyone is interested.. I've bought a few FM Towns Marty Lucasfilm games 
(Loom/Zak/Indy) from this guy and he is very good to deal 
with.
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50227&item=3076277927
 


Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread hughfalk
Lee,

Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system.  So here are 
a couple of changes:

Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."

Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters.  

Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.

So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:

$600 + $230 - $200 = $630

Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than 
$0.

With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.  Enjoy.

Hugh

-Original Message-
From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
>
>This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
>game prices as follows:
> 
>1994 - Present:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
>1986 - 93:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
>1977 - 85:
>Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> 
>I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
>on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).

Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II (1982) = $800
   Ultima III (1983) = $900
   Ultima IV (1985) = $800
   Ultima V (1988) = $140

Especially if we add subtitles!

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
   Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
   Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
   Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480

(I was nice and didn't count the colons.)

I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
prices:

   Zork (1980) = $400
   Zork II (1981) = $600
   Zork III (1982) = $700
   Starcross (1982) = $900
   Suspended (1983) = $900
   Planetfall (1983) = $1000
   The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
   Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
   Stationfall (1987) = $220

And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.

   Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
   Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
   Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300

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Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Stephane Racle




Let's validate the system:

Ultima IX: Ascension is worth $80 + $9 - $90 = -$1, so $0. This must
therefore be be a good system!

Although I still like the -$1 value, because if I had to play this game
again, I'd definitely want to be paid for it! :-P

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Lee,

Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system.  So here are a couple of changes:

Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."

Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters.  

Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.

So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:

$600 + $230 - $200 = $630

Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0.

With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.  Enjoy.

Hugh

-Original Message-
From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
  
  
This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
game prices as follows:

1994 - Present:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
1986 - 93:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
1977 - 85:
Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100

I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).

  
  
Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II (1982) = $800
   Ultima III (1983) = $900
   Ultima IV (1985) = $800
   Ultima V (1988) = $140

Especially if we add subtitles!

   Ultima (1981) = $600
   Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
   Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
   Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
   Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480

(I was nice and didn't count the colons.)

I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
prices:

   Zork (1980) = $400
   Zork II (1981) = $600
   Zork III (1982) = $700
   Starcross (1982) = $900
   Suspended (1983) = $900
   Planetfall (1983) = $1000
   The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
   Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
   Stationfall (1987) = $220

And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.

   Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
   Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
   Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300

  





Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread BL
I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new perfect
system? :)

Brad

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d


> Lee,
>
> Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system.
So here are a couple of changes:
>
> Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."
>
> Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters.
>
> Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.
>
> So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:
>
> $600 + $230 - $200 = $630
>
> Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be
worth less than $0.
>
> With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.  Enjoy.
>
> Hugh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
> >
> >This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
> >game prices as follows:
> >
> >1994 - Present:
> >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
> >1986 - 93:
> >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
> >1977 - 85:
> >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> >
> >I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
> >on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).
>
> Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.
>
>Ultima (1981) = $600
>Ultima II (1982) = $800
>Ultima III (1983) = $900
>Ultima IV (1985) = $800
>Ultima V (1988) = $140
>
> Especially if we add subtitles!
>
>Ultima (1981) = $600
>Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
>Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
>Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
>Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480
>
> (I was nice and didn't count the colons.)
>
> I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
> prices:
>
>Zork (1980) = $400
>Zork II (1981) = $600
>Zork III (1982) = $700
>Starcross (1982) = $900
>Suspended (1983) = $900
>Planetfall (1983) = $1000
>The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
>Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
>Stationfall (1987) = $220
>
> And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.
>
>Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
>Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
>Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300
>
> -- 
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Re: [SWCollect] Talking about rarity/value

2004-02-04 Thread Brian the Fist

I sold him a lucasarts item of some kind recently.  If I recall, he
lives in San Francisco so I can't hold his strange behaviour against
him, I'm sure its something in the water there :p

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> 
> You can check on this link the whole list of feedback eriqchang(219)
> left for others (303 total):
> 
> http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackMemberLeft&memberid=eriqchang&items=25&frompage=-1&item=-1&de=off
> 
> You guys won't believe some of the lines in there...
> 
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>  30-01-2004 15:18Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Talking
>  about rarity/value
>  Solicita-se resposta a swcollect
> 
> eriqchang: wow, this guy is leaving weird feedback. Just scored his
> first
> neg as a result.
> 
> Alexander
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: BL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Talking about rarity/value
> 
> Whos this guy?  He won an auction of mine, and left this for feedback
> - he
> as well as sniped me a couple of times, grr! :)  Wondering if he is on
> this
> list..
> 
> Feedback:
>   I belong to a very elite group of gamers and we all trade on Ebay!
> OH YES
> WE DO!   Buyer   eriqchang( 219)
> 
> Brad
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Chisarick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Talking about rarity/value
> 
> > As an aside I've gotten creamed by this guy on several occasions.  I
> > think he just 'safety bids' on everything :)  I'd love to see his
> > collection.  Perhaps an invite to the list?
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2004, at 12:10 AM, Stephane Racle wrote:
> >
> > > Wow...
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > ViewItem&category=3561&item=3073649958
> > >
> > >
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Re: [SWCollect] Speaking of EA, got me thinking of Ali Baba..

2004-02-04 Thread Brian the Fist
I've got a good pic here too:

http://deep.mshri.on.ca/people/feldman/vgmuseum/

Once I get the flat one I'll scan that in and add it too.  Quality
Software (started by Stuart Smith) made these games.  Later, Stuart
licensed the game engine he made to build these games to EA as
'Adventure Construction Set'.  He must have sold them the right to these
two games as well, which they put into Age of Adventure.  By this time,
I believe Quality Software was already closed for business (but someone
correct me if Im wrong).

Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
> 
> Thanks Chris and Hugh, I didn't know this! Did Quality Software have
> anything to do with EA later on, or?
> 
> Hugh, if it's not too much trouble I'd love to see a picture of the boxes.
> 
> Thanks again!
> Peo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: den 2 februari 2004 18:34
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Speaking of EA, got me thinking of Ali Baba..
> 
> Sure, both games in Age of Adventure (Return of Heracles and Ali Baba) were
> published commercially (separately) by Quality Software in 1983 (Heracles
> for sure 1983, have to check on Ali). I have both CIB if you need any more
> info.
> 
> Hugh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Per-Olof Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Feb 2, 2004 12:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SWCollect] Speaking of EA, got me thinking of Ali Baba..
> 
> Hugh Falk wrote:
> 
> When we were at EA .. 
> 
> This reminds me of an old question I've never really got a good answer on.
> You know, one of the games in Age of Adventure, the Ali Baba one - I
> remember I heard a long time ago that this game was published separately
> sometime in 1982-83, but I've never been able to confirm or deny that. Do
> you or anybody on this list know anything about this? It would be nice to
> finally close the lid on that rumour, if possible..
> 
> - Peo
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Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread C.E. Forman
Quite possibly...

"Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating
Inconvenience from Planet X".

- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d


> I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new perfect
> system? :)
>
> Brad
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect
system.
> So here are a couple of changes:
> >
> > Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."
> >
> > Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters.
> >
> > Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.
> >
> > So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:
> >
> > $600 + $230 - $200 = $630
> >
> > Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be
> worth less than $0.
> >
> > With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.
Enjoy.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
> > >
> > >This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
> > >game prices as follows:
> > >
> > >1994 - Present:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
> > >1986 - 93:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
> > >1977 - 85:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> > >
> > >I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
> > >on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).
> >
> > Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II (1982) = $800
> >Ultima III (1983) = $900
> >Ultima IV (1985) = $800
> >Ultima V (1988) = $140
> >
> > Especially if we add subtitles!
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
> >Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
> >Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
> >Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480
> >
> > (I was nice and didn't count the colons.)
> >
> > I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
> > prices:
> >
> >Zork (1980) = $400
> >Zork II (1981) = $600
> >Zork III (1982) = $700
> >Starcross (1982) = $900
> >Suspended (1983) = $900
> >Planetfall (1983) = $1000
> >The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
> >Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
> >Stationfall (1987) = $220
> >
> > And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.
> >
> >Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
> >Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
> >Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300
> >
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RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Hugh Falk









Hey that gives me a great idea on how to
make this formula REALLY useful.

 

Obviously Ultima IX isn’t worth $0
(contrary to some of our opinions).  So the purpose of the formula below
is to see how much the value has changed since its original list price. 
So negatives are okay in this case as a modifier.  If Ultima IX originally
cost $49.99, it is now worth $28.99 (see below).  So the real formula is:

 

(Original list price) + ((X: where “x”
= a variable from the Table 1 below) * (number of letters in title)) + ((10% of
X) * (number of letters in the subtitle)) – ((X) * (sequel #))

 

So Ultima IX: Ascension is worth:

 

$49.99 + $60 + $9 - $90 =  $28.99

 

And my previous example:  Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: 

$49.99 + $600 + $230 - $200 = $679.99

 

Table 1:

 1994 - Present: X = $101986 - 93: X = $201977 - 85: X = $100

 

 

Notes:  

 

I’m assuming $49.99 as the original list price
in the examples above…don’t know the real list prices for sure.

 

Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as
"letters."

 

Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of
the title letters.  

 

Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for
sequels.

 

Regardless of how many sequels a game has, the final
value of a game can never be worth less than $0.

 

That does it.  I’ll be truly amazed if
anybody can poke any more holes in this system.

 

Hugh

 

-Original
Message-
From: Stephane Racle
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004
4:39 PM
To: swcollect
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my
G*d

 

Let's validate the
system:

Ultima IX: Ascension is worth $80 + $9 - $90 = -$1, so $0. This must therefore
be be a good system!

Although I still like the -$1 value, because if I had to play this game again,
I'd definitely want to be paid for it! :-P

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system.  So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters." Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters.   Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.  Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message-From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PMTo: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:  

This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =game prices as follows: 1994 - Present:Price = (number of letters in game name) x $101986 - 93:Price = (number of letters in game name) x $201977 - 85:Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this methodon your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).    

 Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.    Ultima (1981) = $600   Ultima II (1982) = $800   Ultima III (1983) = $900   Ultima IV (1985) = $800   Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles!    Ultima (1981) = $600   Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100   Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500   Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400   Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of theseprices:    Zork (1980) = $400   Zork II (1981) = $600   Zork III (1982) = $700   Starcross (1982) = $900   Suspended (1983) = $900   Planetfall (1983) = $1000   The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000   Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480   Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.    Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900   Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400   Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300   






[SWCollect] Microsoft Adventure

2004-02-04 Thread Hugh Falk

Typical how these two similar auctions ending at similar times fetched
such different prices:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3657903386

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074898993&category=1
1047

Hugh




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RE: [SWCollect] Microsoft Adventure

2004-02-04 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
I am experiencing the buyer's remorse...

Stuart

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Microsoft Adventure



Typical how these two similar auctions ending at similar times fetched
such different prices:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3657903386

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074898993&category=1
1047

Hugh




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Re: [SWCollect] Microsoft Adventure

2004-02-04 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 02/04/2004 11:57:01 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I am experiencing the buyer's remorse...

Hehe, that is still a good price, I would have paid it Stuart :)

Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page 


RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Hugh Falk
No way...that was 1992.  Only $20 a letter and $2 per subtitle letter.
Then you have to subtract for the sequel.  I'd have to go with:

"The Activision Little Computer People Discovery Kit"  The value of this
game is approximately:

$49.99 + $4500 = $4,549.99

I normally wouldn't want to count words like "Activision" in the value,
but that's the official name of the game.  On the back of the box in
small print it says:  "The Activision Little Computer People Discovery
Kit TM"  It's not a subtitle or to be confused with the various fonts
used on the front.  Other box variations of this game may be worth less.

So unless somebody is going to argue that this isn't technically a game,
I'm sorry to say that this is probably the most valuable game out there.
I hope you all have one.

On a similar note, should we raise the value of games by Bill Budge and
Sid Meier because they use their names in the title? Or should we
exclude their names?  Do you list these games in your DB as "Sid Meier's
Civilization " or just "Civilization"?

As soon as somebody gets tired of this thread, please tell me to stop.
No seriously, please tell me to stop.

Hugh



-Original Message-
From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d

Quite possibly...

"Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating
Inconvenience from Planet X".

- Original Message - 
From: "BL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d


> I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new
perfect
> system? :)
>
> Brad
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect
system.
> So here are a couple of changes:
> >
> > Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."
> >
> > Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title
letters.
> >
> > Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.
> >
> > So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:
> >
> > $600 + $230 - $200 = $630
> >
> > Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never
be
> worth less than $0.
> >
> > With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.
Enjoy.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
> > >
> > >This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
> > >game prices as follows:
> > >
> > >1994 - Present:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
> > >1986 - 93:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
> > >1977 - 85:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> > >
> > >I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
> > >on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).
> >
> > Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II (1982) = $800
> >Ultima III (1983) = $900
> >Ultima IV (1985) = $800
> >Ultima V (1988) = $140
> >
> > Especially if we add subtitles!
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
> >Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
> >Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
> >Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480
> >
> > (I was nice and didn't count the colons.)
> >
> > I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
> > prices:
> >
> >Zork (1980) = $400
> >Zork II (1981) = $600
> >Zork III (1982) = $700
> >Starcross (1982) = $900
> >Suspended (1983) = $900
> >Planetfall (1983) = $1000
> >The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
> >Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
> >Stationfall (1987) = $220
> >
> > And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.
> >
> >Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
> >Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
> >Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300
> >
> > -- 
> > Lee K. Seitz
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!

2004-02-04 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
I think the most valuable game is:
Seastalker: Horatio Sebastian Paraknishparpishkamishpan and the Ultramarine
Bioceptor. : )

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:33 AM
To: 'C.E. Forman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d


No way...that was 1992.  Only $20 a letter and $2 per subtitle letter.
Then you have to subtract for the sequel.  I'd have to go with:

"The Activision Little Computer People Discovery Kit"  The value of this
game is approximately:

$49.99 + $4500 = $4,549.99

I normally wouldn't want to count words like "Activision" in the value,
but that's the official name of the game.  On the back of the box in
small print it says:  "The Activision Little Computer People Discovery
Kit TM"  It's not a subtitle or to be confused with the various fonts
used on the front.  Other box variations of this game may be worth less.

So unless somebody is going to argue that this isn't technically a game,
I'm sorry to say that this is probably the most valuable game out there.
I hope you all have one.

On a similar note, should we raise the value of games by Bill Budge and
Sid Meier because they use their names in the title? Or should we
exclude their names?  Do you list these games in your DB as "Sid Meier's
Civilization " or just "Civilization"?

As soon as somebody gets tired of this thread, please tell me to stop.
No seriously, please tell me to stop.

Hugh



-Original Message-
From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d

Quite possibly...

"Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating
Inconvenience from Planet X".

- Original Message -
From: "BL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d


> I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new
perfect
> system? :)
>
> Brad
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect
system.
> So here are a couple of changes:
> >
> > Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters."
> >
> > Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title
letters.
> >
> > Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels.
> >
> > So for example, Ultima II:  Revenge of the Enchantress is worth:
> >
> > $600 + $230 - $200 = $630
> >
> > Note:  Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never
be
> worth less than $0.
> >
> > With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out.
Enjoy.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: Software Collecting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
> > >
> > >This is really shameless.  I suggest a standard for classic =
> > >game prices as follows:
> > >
> > >1994 - Present:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10
> > >1986 - 93:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20
> > >1977 - 85:
> > >Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100
> > >
> > >I think this is much more reasonable.  Feel free to use this method
> > >on your sites.  No need to mention me as the source (please).
> >
> > Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector.
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II (1982) = $800
> >Ultima III (1983) = $900
> >Ultima IV (1985) = $800
> >Ultima V (1988) = $140
> >
> > Especially if we add subtitles!
> >
> >Ultima (1981) = $600
> >Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100
> >Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500
> >Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400
> >Ultima V:  Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480
> >
> > (I was nice and didn't count the colons.)
> >
> > I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these
> > prices:
> >
> >Zork (1980) = $400
> >Zork II (1981) = $600
> >Zork III (1982) = $700
> >Starcross (1982) = $900
> >Suspended (1983) = $900
> >Planetfall (1983) = $1000
> >The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000
> >Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480
> >Stationfall (1987) = $220
> >
> > And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles.
> >
> >Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900
> >Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400
> >Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300
> >
> > --
> > Lee K. Seitz
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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