Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
Jim Leonard wrote: into three paragraphs, but it's typical form if you're not a lawyer. (If you are, or want to sound like one, then here's an actual cease and desist letter I just remembered two things: Particularly nasty wording or harsh language or accusations are not good practice for cease and desist letters. Also, if you threaten legal action, be prepared to actually follow up on it. Don't make legal threats unless you're serious. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
Thanks Jim. I just wanted to make sure people acknowledge that I know what I'm talking about, so that when I ask them to -please- remove the content or at least mention the source, I'm taken serious. I'm not going to start cross-atlantic court action over it (he, imagine that!). About the RPG main genre: You probably know more games than anyone else under the sun, but nobody is perfect. Well, the Pope claims to be, but who wants to be like the Pope? ;-) Marco Jim Leonard schrieb: Jim Leonard wrote: into three paragraphs, but it's typical form if you're not a lawyer. (If you are, or want to sound like one, then here's an actual cease and desist letter I just remembered two things: Particularly nasty wording or harsh language or accusations are not good practice for cease and desist letters. Also, if you threaten legal action, be prepared to actually follow up on it. Don't make legal threats unless you're serious. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
Marco Thorek wrote: Hm, can you give me a sample of the cease desist? I'm not that familiar with the US legal system and having that could come in handy. Just recently I found another site that lifted some of the bios I compiled on the Infocom authors in their entirety. A proper cease and desist letter would be something that has three paragraphs: - First paragraph introduces yourself or your identity, and links you to the intellectual property you are going to talk about - Second paragraph lists the infractions (what the guy is doing wrong) - Third paragraph asks that the person cease and desist (exact wording is important!) said behavior None of these paragraphs necessarily need to be very long, or even formatted into three paragraphs, but it's typical form if you're not a lawyer. (If you are, or want to sound like one, then here's an actual cease and desist letter to use as reference: http://www.mobygames.com/featured_article/feature,7/section,23/ Personally, I just shot him a quick note: Hi, I noticed in this auction that you are using images from MobyGames.com without our permission. Please cease and desist this immediately or will be forced to take action which includes, but is not limited to, contacting ebay in regards to having your account suspended or revoked. Your prompt attention in this matter is greatly appreciated. I didn't want to go into it much because I wasn't expecting a reply. As it turns out, he promised not to do it again, so I left it at that. (PS. RPGs sure look great there among the main genres ;-) Yeah, rub it in... :-) You have to know it was a blow to my ego that I royally screwed that up. And Hack was one of my first addicted games, even!! How could I have blown it? Oh well; it's fixed for all eternity now. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
Edward Franks wrote: On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:59 AM, Jim Leonard wrote: No feedback on this -- is this information helpful/useful? If not, let me know. We aim to please. I'm not doing enough to need the info at the moment. By the way, is this auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3008172904category=11050 legitimately using Moby Games images? Of course not. The only auctioneers we permit to use our images are members of this list, and only with some note that says the images are used with permission and providing the URL of mobygames. I have emailed the person. Thanks for the heads-up. Normally I wouldn't give a crap, except that this guy was not only using multiple images, but doing so to totally misrepresent the product (the covers aren't part of the item!). -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:59 AM, Jim Leonard wrote: No feedback on this -- is this information helpful/useful? If not, let me know. We aim to please. I'm not doing enough to need the info at the moment. By the way, is this auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3008172904category=11050 legitimately using Moby Games images? -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Using MobyGames Info
No feedback on this -- is this information helpful/useful? If not, let me know. We aim to please. Jim Leonard wrote: C.E. Forman wrote: Actually, Jim, this brings up something I wanted to ask you: Would it be possible for me to get a basic list of gameID, title, and publisher from Moby? I've considered setting up links from my trade and vault items to MobyGames, if additional info on the games exists... with your permission, of course. Like what GameTZ uses. How about what GameTZ uses *exactly*? Here's the link: http://www.mobygames.com/misc/ugtz_download I cleared it with my partners, so you (and any other website implementors on this list) are allowed to use it provided that you make it obvious you are linking to MobyGames somehow, either through text or a tiny graphic or something. (Link text of just more info, etc. would not be enough.) We provided the little icon that UGTZ/GameTZ uses, so feel free to save it from their pages and use it. If you need larger icons or ads, you can find them here: http://www.mobygames.com/info/link/ The output of the above link is very simple: Banjo-Kazooie; Nintendo 64; http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId=3583 Sonic Adventure; Dreamcast; http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId=3530 Quake II; DOS; http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId=405 ..etc. For older PC games, most collectors on this list will only look at the DOS and Booter platforms. Sorry, no C64 or Atari yet, but they are planned to be implemented. If you have any questions, just ask. Again, our only requirement is that you make it obvious it's MobyGames you're linking to. Automatically pulling the info up in framesets or otherwise disguising MobyGames' information will probably get us miffed :) Otherwise, enjoy! -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/