Re: [swinog] NetFlow

[Peter Haag]

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- --On August 30, 2005 12:25:31 -0400 Raffael Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| I am doing some research on NetFlow and wanted to ask you guys a few things:
|
| How are you using NetFlow? For what purposes? Billing? Security? Do you
| have NetFlow enabled on all your routers? Do you enable it on all the
| interfaces or just on the external/internal interface? Do you utilize any
| tool to stitch the NetFlows back together? Why would you do that?
|
| I guess you can tell that I was never exposed to NetFlow in the ISP world.
| Any answers or comments are really appreciated.

You may have a look at our tools from SWITCH-CERT. We use them mostly for 
security
related issues.

Backend:  
Frontend: 

- Peter

|
| Thanks
|
|   -raffy
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|   Senior Security Engineer @ ArcSight Inc.
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Re: [swinog] CCNP

[Daniele Guazzoni]

Zoran

is really a matter of self discipline and motivation.
I did CCNA and CCNP almost on my own (2 courses at Getronics), the main 
effort using Cisco press and related books, CCO and of course hands-on 
on some real hardware...


Personally I use the kick in the ass method:
1) set the exam date
2) study / try / repeat
3) pass the exam (are there alternatives ?...)

This way I have the kick and a real target to focus on.

Until now I used to success with them, I will see next monday if I also 
get the CCIE qualification that way...


My suggestion to you (I don't know your actual knowledge level):
get some Boson tests (real test simulation) and walk through.
That way you can find out where are your weak points and you can get 
specific self-study books and/or get training.


Save the 16k for the CCIE track...


Daniele


Zoran Brakus wrote:

Hello

 I'm looking for a best way to upgrade my CCNA and become a CCNP. At
 the moment, I have the following options on my mind:

 a) CCNP academy
- it costs around 16k CHF; a lot of money, isn't it?
- is CCNP course organized somewhere in Zürich or Zug (preferably
  on weekends)?
- can I expect to have academy lessons in English language or only
  German?

 b) to make my own lab (ebay), buy all books and try to become a "home
made" CCNP? :-)

 c) ?

 I would appreciate any info and/or suggestions.

 Thanx



--



best regards

--
Daniele Guazzoni
Senior Network Engineer, CCNA, CCNP

Ackersteinstrasse 203
CH-8049 Zurich
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it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
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Re: [swinog] CCNP

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

--- Zoran Brakus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I'm looking for a best way to upgrade my CCNA and become a CCNP. At
>  the moment, I have the following options on my mind:
> 
>  a) CCNP academy
> - it costs around 16k CHF; a lot of money, isn't it?

it's waaay too high price for quite a moderate degree.
A set of ciscopress books will not cost you more than few hundred francs.
And if you find a job where you have access to some roiuters, that will 
be enough.

I would recommend gaining some real-life experience and head for CCIE, 
and not wasting time for those numerous exams for the CCNP degree.


>  b) to make my own lab (ebay), buy all books and try to become a "home
> made" CCNP? :-)

for CCIE it would work, for CCNP it's an overkill imho.

stan
(ccie since 2000)
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Re: [swinog] CCNP

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Zoran Brakus wrote:
I'm looking for a best way to upgrade my CCNA and become a CCNP. At 
the moment, I have the following options on my mind:


Well, to choose the right option is basically a question of 
self-motivation. If you prefer to get kicked in your a. to make a move, 
then go for a)



 a) CCNP academy
- it costs around 16k CHF; a lot of money, isn't it?
- is CCNP course organized somewhere in Zürich or Zug (preferably
  on weekends)?
- can I expect to have academy lessons in English language or only
  German?


From my own experience I can recommend the courses of HSR Hochschule 
Rapperswil. http://cisco.netacad.ch/ - nice guys, professional gear, 
good connections in the class (of course this can vary) and you get the 
latest tips and tricks how to survive.



 b) to make my own lab (ebay), buy all books and try to become a "home
made" CCNP? :-)


not my thingy even with learning at class, you need some self-motivation 
to repeat etc.


Good luck!

F.


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Re: [swinog] NetFlow

[Viktor Steinmann]

We used netflow on all external interfaces towards upstream & 
peerings, so we could find out, how much traffic we were exchaning 
with which AS. It's quite a nice feature for peering policy decisions 
(or the decision, if you should change your upstream)


The tool we used was flowscan 
(http://www.caida.org/tools/utilities/flowscan/), but I hear there 
are others as well (especially, if you are willing to shed out some money :-))


Another nice use for netflow data are intrusion detection systems, 
that can find out unusual traffic patterns with heuristic methods. 
Since those systems are quite expensive, I don't have any first-hand 
experience, but I hear, they have a long learning period, need a lot 
of tweaking until they do, what they're supposed to do...   If you're 
interested in this stuff, I guess Nico (Fischbach) is your man :-)


Cheers,
Viktor

At 18:25 30.08.2005, you wrote:

I am doing some research on NetFlow and wanted to ask you guys a few things:

How are you using NetFlow? For what purposes? Billing? Security? Do you
have NetFlow enabled on all your routers? Do you enable it on all the
interfaces or just on the external/internal interface? Do you utilize any
tool to stitch the NetFlows back together? Why would you do that?

I guess you can tell that I was never exposed to NetFlow in the ISP world.
Any answers or comments are really appreciated.

Thanks

  -raffy

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Re: [swinog] NetFlow

[Simon Leinen]

Raffael Marty writes:
> I am doing some research on NetFlow and wanted to ask you guys a few
> things: How are you using NetFlow? For what purposes? Billing?
> Security?

Yes, both billing (and coarse-grained traffic analysis on our upstream
and peering connections) and security (detection and localization of
malicious traffic, trend analysis, "cyberepidemiology" research).

> Do you have NetFlow enabled on all your routers?

In our setup we only use data from our border (peering) routers.

> Do you enable it on all the interfaces or just on the
> external/internal interface?

We have it enabled in the ingress direction on all interfaces, so that
we can count all traffic both inbound and outbound through the router.
Also our current platform (with current software) cannot enable
Netflow selectively.

> Do you utilize any tool to stitch the NetFlows back together? Why
> would you do that?

In the part I'm responsible for (billing etc.), I don't try to match
related unidirectional flows to bidirectional flows.  Maybe for
security applications this would be more useful.  At any rate it's
difficult in our network, because the two directions often go through
different routers.

> I guess you can tell that I was never exposed to NetFlow in the ISP
> world.  Any answers or comments are really appreciated.

I maintain a page with pointers to Netflow-related software packages -
maybe you find it useful:

http://www.switch.ch/tf-tant/floma/software.html
-- 
Simon.

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[swinog] Niksa Tomulic is out of the office.

[Niksa Tomulic]

I will be out of the office starting  29.08.2005 and will not return until 02.09.2005.

Hello
I am currently on the business trip to Switzerland, with the limited access to my e-mail. 

Please note I will answer to your e-mail with a slight delay, but in the case of urgency don't hesitate to call me at +385 91 1288333

Best regards,


Niksa Tomulic
Director, Professional Services
ccie #11548

NIL Data Communications Ltd., Tivolska cesta 48, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
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[swinog] Looking for WIC-2T

[Sarpreet]

Hi,

Does anyone have any WIC-2T's they would like to sell.

Please reply off list. 

Regards,
 
Sarpreet Basi
Knowledge Computers
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x26
International: 250.748.0818 x26
Fax: 250.748.3388
Mobile: 250.709.0336
 
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[swinog] CCNP

[Zoran Brakus]

Hello

 I'm looking for a best way to upgrade my CCNA and become a CCNP. At
 the moment, I have the following options on my mind:

 a) CCNP academy
- it costs around 16k CHF; a lot of money, isn't it?
- is CCNP course organized somewhere in Zürich or Zug (preferably
  on weekends)?
- can I expect to have academy lessons in English language or only
  German?

 b) to make my own lab (ebay), buy all books and try to become a "home
made" CCNP? :-)

 c) ?

 I would appreciate any info and/or suggestions.

 Thanx

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Regards,
 Zoran Brakus

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Sorry : [swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

[Sarpreet]

Sorry for the post, it was meant for Rick at eunet.

Sincerely 

Sarpreet.



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On Behalf Of Sarpreet
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:01 AM
To: swinog@swinog.ch
Subject: RE: [swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

Hi Rick,

I have a few in stock.  

1x PA-8E $425 USD = @ 348.45 EUR
Plus shipping $40 USD = @ 32.79 EUR  4-5 business days.  

$465usd = @381.24 Eur 

We accept Wire Transfer, paypal and will accept credit card with company
references. 

Warm Regards,
 
Sarpreet Basi
Knowledge Computers
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x26
International: 250.748.0818 x26
Fax: 250.748.3388
Mobile: 250.709.0336
 
AOL IM: sarpreetb
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard Klingler
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:20 AM
To: swinog@swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

Hello...


Does somebody has a spare PA-8E for a 7206 to sell?
Please no "try epray" replies (o;


rick


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RE: [swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

[Sarpreet]

Hi Rick,

I have a few in stock.  

1x PA-8E $425 USD = @ 348.45 EUR
Plus shipping $40 USD = @ 32.79 EUR  4-5 business days.  

$465usd = @381.24 Eur 

We accept Wire Transfer, paypal and will accept credit card with company
references. 

Warm Regards,
 
Sarpreet Basi
Knowledge Computers
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x26
International: 250.748.0818 x26
Fax: 250.748.3388
Mobile: 250.709.0336
 
AOL IM: sarpreetb
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knowledgecomputers.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard Klingler
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:20 AM
To: swinog@swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

Hello...


Does somebody has a spare PA-8E for a 7206 to sell?
Please no "try epray" replies (o;


rick


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[swinog] NetFlow

[Raffael Marty]

I am doing some research on NetFlow and wanted to ask you guys a few things:

How are you using NetFlow? For what purposes? Billing? Security? Do you
have NetFlow enabled on all your routers? Do you enable it on all the
interfaces or just on the external/internal interface? Do you utilize any
tool to stitch the NetFlows back together? Why would you do that?

I guess you can tell that I was never exposed to NetFlow in the ISP world.
Any answers or comments are really appreciated.

Thanks

  -raffy

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  Senior Security Engineer @ ArcSight Inc.
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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

Hi,

I didn't read the whole thread, but

we've tested and plan to use the following configuration:

Siemens MC35i GSM modem
Perle IOLAN DS1 TCP-to-RS232 gateway - for places where GSMN connection 
is poor near the server
Kannel.org software, with a patch that allows to use the Perle extender
(well, any TCP-to-serial terminal server). The patch is not yet accepted into 
the Kannel CVS, but you can find it in the mailing list archive.

I also developed a small commandline utility that sends messages to Kannel, 
it's also mentioned in the kannel mailing list.

Cheers,
Stan

--- Stefan Rothenbühler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to implement a sms gateway for my $broetchengeber.
> The functionality it should have is that it takes an e-mail, converts it to a
> single sms and send this throgh either a GSM device or a internet sms gateway
> to a predefined group of receivers.
> I'm planning to implement both GSM device and Internet gateway to have a
> fallback possiblity.

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[swinog] SwiNOG #11 - call for presentations

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Dear all,

Anyone having an interesting topic to be presented at SwiNOG #11 (Oct. 
20th, 2005). Please send proposals to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - we'll try 
to set an interesting agenda. As ususal, a beamer will be provided, and 
if you don't have your own notebook, there will be one available to 
present your slides to the audience.


Don't be shy :-) - and be reminded that SwiNOG is a technical group, so 
please do not propose plain marketing / sales stuff.


In the name of the SwiNOG core team:
Fredy
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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Fabian Wenk]

Hello Stefan

Stefan Rothenbühler wrote:

Thanks a lot for all your answers. For an internet SMS gateway we have a
solutions (yes, we are ip+ customer). I'm more searching a hardware solution
(to be independent of connectivity to the internet which can also fail).


There is also YaPS [1] available, which can use any modem and the 
UCP gateway of Swisscom (dial-in with modem / ISDN) to deliver 
SMS. I had implemented YaPS at my last job for alerting and the 
customer SMS gateway. With the UCP Gateway you can define the 
sending number of the SMS.


  [1] http://freshmeat.net/projects/yaps/

I could not find the document "Computerlösungen für TELEPAGE® und 
NATEL® message (SMS)" any more on the Swisscom website with the 
listed phone numbers for such services.


The UCP gateway is available with analog (079 499 89 90) and ISDN 
(with V.120, 0900 900 941). The Tarif for the ISDN number was 
back then (around 2002) the following, probably has changed now:


The 2.second costs -.30 CHF, afterwards -.79 CHF/minute (in -.10 
CHF steps). So a connection duration from 2 to 9.5 seconds costs 
-.30 CHF. This information were from Swisscom (Tel. 0800 848 900).


I know, it is a little bit expensive, but independent of any 
internet service or mobile phone in the datacenter. If I remember 
correctly, there is also the possibility for a 'large account', 
if you are sending a lot of SMS this way, which should give you 
cheaper rates. Ask your phone carrier. ;)


If you are interested in this solution, I can send you some more 
information and even a patch so that YaPS also can use some 
special characters (@ sign, Umlaute, ...) with the Swisscom SMSC. 
Probably I should once take some time to document and publish 
this properly.



bye
Fabian
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[swinog] Wanted: PA-8E

[Richard Klingler]

Hello...


Does somebody has a spare PA-8E for a 7206 to sell?
Please no "try epray" replies (o;


rick


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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Alexander Bochmann]

...on Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:28:00AM +0200, Stefan Rothenb?hler wrote:

 > I'm more searching a hardware solution
 > (to be independent of connectivity to the internet which can also fail).

We used a Siemens M20 (basically a GSM phone in a 
box with external power supply and RS232 interface),
and a contract for high-volume SMS. 
I'm not shure if that's still in production, but 
there should be followup products.

As it mostly uses the more or less standardized 
GSM extensions to the AT command set, it's not 
difficult to find software to drive it - but I 
think we had a custom solution (bunch of perl 
scripts) to send SMS from Nagios and from the 
commandline through it.

Data connections should also work fine, I think 
many people used it as emergency dialin at remote 
locations.

Alex.

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Re: [swinog] Re: swinog Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Hi all,

Peter Leuzinger wrote:

Sehr geehrte(r) Damen und Herren

Besten Dank für Ihre eMail !

Ab Samstag, 20. August bis Sonntag, 4. September 2005 bin ich
ferienabwesend.


This very dumb autoresponder has been removed from the subscription list.

Please make sure that your autoresponder obeys "Precedence: list" in the
mailheader, otherwise get a proper mail software.

F.
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[swinog] Re: swinog Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7

[Peter Leuzinger]

Sehr geehrte(r) Damen und Herren

Besten Dank für Ihre eMail ! 

Ab Samstag, 20. August bis Sonntag, 4. September 2005 bin ich ferienabwesend. 

Bitte kontaktieren Sie in der Zwischenzeit für technische Belange Herrn Jan 
Elmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; für verkaufsorientierte und administrative Themen 
Herrn Sasha Arn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Ab Montag, den 5. September 2005, freue ich mich sehr, Ihnen eine baldmöglichst 
Antwort zu geben.

Besten Dank, und mit freundlichen Grüssen 

Thank you for your message. I am out of office from August 20 until September 4 
and will not be able to check my mail box. 

ONLY, in case of any urgent technical matter, please contact:
Jan Elmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tel. +41. 44 204 16 93 (direct).

Best regards

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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[ueli heuer]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:28:00 +0200
Stefan Rothenbühler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I'm more
> searching a hardware solution (to be independent of
> connectivity to the internet which can also fail). We plan to
> setup a box which can do both (gsm and sms over ip+) and
> searching a software that can manage this all (with receiver
> lists and so on). I'll take a look at nagios which steven
> mentioned.

do you have an older nokia phone you should have a look at the
gnokii project.

http://www.gnokii.org/

Ueli

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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[noc]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:28:00 +0200
Stefan Rothenbühler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We plan to setup a box which can do both (gsm and sms over ip+) and 
> searching a
> software that can manage this all (with receiver lists and so on).

For your own SMS-Gateway, I highly recommend kannel (www.kannel.org).  It works 
well with a connected device, as well as sending via SMSC.  As far as the 
distribution lists go, a local MTA could handle that.  The fallback scenario 
(if no internet, then use device) will probably have to be scripted.

HTH,

- Dimitri


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Birmensdorferstrasse 125
8003 Zurich

tel: +41 (1) 466 60 00
fax: +41 (1) 466 60 10

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RE: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Tobias Glasow]

For sending SMS independent of connectivity we use sms_client 
(http://www.smsclient.org/download/smsclient-3.0-testing/) and an Elsa ISDA TA.

For notification out of nagios we use a modified "(host)-notify-by-epager" 
command which uses sms_client.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Tobias Glasow

Magnet.ch AG
Güterstrasse 86
4053 Basel
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Fax.:  0842 420 422
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-Original Message-
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Rothenbühler
Sent: Dienstag, 30. August 2005 10:28
To: swinog@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

Am Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:19:54 +0200 schrieb Elias Wittwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>>
>> Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to use for 
>> this issue?
>> Do you have any expirience with such tools?
>
> take a look on:
> http://www.aspsms.ch

Thanks a lot for all your answers. For an internet SMS gateway we have a 
solutions (yes, we are ip+ customer). I'm more searching a hardware solution 
(to be independent of connectivity to the internet which can also fail).
We plan to setup a box which can do both (gsm and sms over ip+) and searching a 
software that can manage this all (with receiver lists and so on). I'll take a 
look at nagios which steven mentioned.

Maybe I was a bit unclear on this.

Freundliche Grüsse

Stefan Rothenbühler
Systemadministration


tl.media group
fon  +41 41 741 1210
fax  +41 41 741 1235

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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Stefan Rothenbühler]

Am Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:19:54 +0200 schrieb Elias Wittwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to use
for this issue?
Do you have any expirience with such tools?


take a look on:
http://www.aspsms.ch


Thanks a lot for all your answers. For an internet SMS gateway we have a
solutions (yes, we are ip+ customer). I'm more searching a hardware solution
(to be independent of connectivity to the internet which can also fail).
We plan to setup a box which can do both (gsm and sms over ip+) and
searching a
software that can manage this all (with receiver lists and so on). I'll take a
look at nagios which steven mentioned.

Maybe I was a bit unclear on this.

Freundliche Grüsse

Stefan Rothenbühler
Systemadministration


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Re: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Elias Wittwer]

Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to use  
for this issue?

Do you have any expirience with such tools?


take a look on:
http://www.aspsms.ch

there is a nice and simple xml gateway which you could use for all  
your needs!

i'm not sure, but the prices are about 0.09 chf per sms...

i really could recommend this services, we use it for our server  
monitoring and other services.


greets

elias
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RE: [swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Glogger Steven]

hi stefan 

> - check if the mobile of the poor tech that gets the message 
> that his server is eg. on fire ;), really received the 
> message and if not, sending it again or sending it to another tech
well, i don't know if this works. you would have to parse the 
'sendebestätigung'. i'm not sure if external services like minick are giving 
this feedback. if you use your own infrastructure there is the possiblity. 

> - maybe sending sms to customers
do you really want to do this? :) well..depenting on your configuration whom 
you send sms to.

> - sort of security (not everyone should be able to send email 
> to the gateway)
you might filter this out on your mail (relay-)server or on the incoming edge 
of the sms-gateway (e.g. with a password).

> - a simple network monitor tool which pings the servers that 
> should be running and if there's no communication, send an sms
look at nagios or any other network monitor tool. all of them support 
notification by email (and then your email2sms gateway will do the rest ,-))

> - maybe two way sms gateway (tech. could send a ping with his 
> mobile, could aknowledge a error message, and so on)
don't be complicated. use nagios (or $yourfavoritemonitoringtool), buy a nice 
mobile with integrated ssh/telnet tool and save the spare time to enjoy an 
evening at the lake ;-)

> Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to 
> use for this issue?
> Do you have any expirience with such tools?

you should have a look at nagios (http://www.nagios.org/) and use either a 
connected gsm phone to the server or use one of the many gsm gateways there are 
(ipplus sms service/only for ip+ customers; minick; etc..)

-steven
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[swinog] SMS-Gateway

[Stefan Rothenbühler]

Hello Folks

I have to implement a sms gateway for my $broetchengeber.
The functionality it should have is that it takes an e-mail, converts it to a
single sms and send this throgh either a GSM device or a internet sms gateway
to a predefined group of receivers.
I'm planning to implement both GSM device and Internet gateway to have a
fallback possiblity.

Further functions should (could) be:
- check if the mobile of the poor tech that gets the message that his server is
eg. on fire ;), really received the message and if not, sending it again or
sending it to another tech
- maybe sending sms to customers
- sort of security (not everyone should be able to send email to the gateway)
- a simple network monitor tool which pings the servers that should be running
and if there's no communication, send an sms
- maybe two way sms gateway (tech. could send a ping with his mobile, could
aknowledge a error message, and so on)


Do you have any recommentions, which tool and/or hardware to use for this issue?
Do you have any expirience with such tools?

Thank you very much

Freundliche Grüsse

Stefan Rothenbühler
Systemadministration


tl.media group
fon  +41 41 741 1210
fax  +41 41 741 1235

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