RE: [swinog] vtx ADSL /30 subnet practice

2007-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Jérôme Tissières
Dear Daniel, and all,

Yes, I confirm if you order a /30, /29, /28, etc to VTX, the first IP of the 
subnet is assigned to the CPE with the right mask associated.

  This setup works on Cisco and Zyxel ADSL as the WAN interface is using 
  the IP from the LAN side and the LNS sees both a /32 and a /30 
  route...not sure about other xDSL CPEs though (o;

I confirm, this setup works on most of the CPE. For exemple with a /30 you have 
one IP for your LAN gateway and one usable. That's normal, it's a /30. :)


Have a nice day,
Jerome


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-06-03:
  This setup works on Cisco and Zyxel ADSL as the WAN 
 interface is using 
  the IP from the LAN side and the LNS sees both a /32 and a /30 
  route...not sure about other xDSL CPEs though (o;
 
 In this setup, the PPP endpoint address of the CPE router is 
 the same as it's LAN address, and the customer still gets his 
 /30 network to use as expected, i.e. there's an address left 
 for, say, a server.
 
 In the vtx case (if correct), there is nothing of the /30 
 left to the customer to use, except the WAN address assigned 
 via PPPoX.  Granted, this does not sound very sane, since the 
 customer pays for a /30 which he does not get.
 
 Maybe the vtx engineers just had bad luck explaining the 
 above to the customer.
 
 Cheers
 -Dan
 
  
  
  cheers
  rick
  
  
  Daniel Roethlisberger schrieb:
  It seems that vtx has some very strange way of configuring the /30 
  subnet when customers order 4 fix IP addresses.
  
  Normally when someone orders a /30, the ADSL router's PPP 
 interface 
  would get an address from an unrelated address range.  The 4 
  addresses from the customer's /30 subnet can be used by 
 the custumer 
  for the network and broadcast addresses (-2), the router's LAN 
  interface (-1), leaving one address for a server or 
 desktop machine.
  
  However, this seems not to be the case at vtx.ch.  As two vtx 
  engineers explained to a (tech-savvy dipl. Inform.) customer, they 
  use the addresses from the /30 subnet for the PPP link 
 between their 
  last router and the customer's ADSL router.  So in effect, 
 this means 
  ordering a /30 subnet (the 4 fix IP addresses option) from 
 vtx gets 
  you the same as ordering a single fix IP address -- you 
 get a static 
  address on your ADSL router's PPPoA/PPPoE interface, period.  To 
  actually use the static address on a server/desktop, you need to 
  either configure destination NAT on your router or operate it in 
  bridging mode and run PPPoE directly from the server/desktop.
  
  Can anybody confirm that this is current practice at vtx?  
 Are other 
  providers doing the same?
  
  -Dan
  
  
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Re: [swinog] vtx ADSL /30 subnet practice

2007-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Roethlisberger
Jérôme Tissières [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-06-04:
 Yes, I confirm if you order a /30, /29, /28, etc to VTX, the first IP
 of the subnet is assigned to the CPE with the right mask associated.

The first being what is normally referred to as the network address
(ending in bits 00) or the first normal address (end bits 01)?

-Dan

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RE: [swinog] vtx ADSL /30 subnet practice

2007-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Jérôme Tissières
First usable, 01.
 
Cu,
Jerome


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 Jérôme Tissières [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-06-04:
  Yes, I confirm if you order a /30, /29, /28, etc to VTX, 
 the first IP 
  of the subnet is assigned to the CPE with the right mask associated.
 
 The first being what is normally referred to as the network 
 address (ending in bits 00) or the first normal address 
 (end bits 01)?
 
 -Dan
 
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[swinog] Searching: Cisco NPE-400

2007-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Bangerter, Markus
Hi All

For testing purposes i'm searching a used (but working ;-)
Cisco NPE-400 with 256MB RAM.

Please send offers directly to my email.

kindly regards, Markus
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